Foretravel Motorhome Forums => Foretravel Discussions => Topic started by: Barry Beam on November 29, 2010, 09:10:48 am
Title: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Barry Beam on November 29, 2010, 09:10:48 am
I wonder how many of the older coaches are still around and how many were built in the earlier years (without guessing). ::) I am trying to finish up a few projects and I am looking for Coach Build numbers on any coach: 1988 or earlier 1989 or earlier 1990 Build Numbers between 3497 - 3755 1991 Build Numbers between 3756 - 3959 1992 Build Numbers between 3960 - 4170 1993 Build Numbers between 4171 - 4389 1994 Build Numbers between 4390 - 4593
If you have one of these coaches could you send me a photo of the ID plate OR the "model number" under the VIN number on the ID plate showing year - build number - size - Floorplan - Model - Engine (Which Engine) Example: F 03 6024 4023 AGDS U320T E31
Barry, Don't quite understand your request. There are some gaping holes in your # set series. My '91 300GV Unihome happens to fall into one of those cracks. Were the series breaks intentional? John
Yes it was intentional. I am trying to see when one year ends and the other year starts. I dont have your build number. With the model number I can match the build number with what type coach it goes to.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: GMC_jon on November 29, 2010, 04:27:02 pm
Barry,
Here you go.
John
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: JohnFitz on December 01, 2010, 09:14:53 pm
Sounds like a interesting project. Doesn't look like my coach number falls in the brackets you requested but maybe you'll find it useful in some other way: (Same month build as GMC_jon :))
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: rickricca on January 23, 2011, 11:56:30 pm
Hi there
I am a newbie who just purchased FTX801447538RED. Nice machine, kind of in a time warp. Cummins VT225 Allison MT643.
Having trouble finding shocks and it drives pretty bad since the old ones are completely shot. I am looking for any info I can find as I hope to get some good use out of this fine classic. I am an accomplished truck mechanic by the way
thanks
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Jerryetc on February 12, 2011, 08:36:08 pm
Hello..I am a new memeber and just used your post to learn where to find the build # that was requested in the profile. My Model # is G91 3910 36SBI U240 250 Hope this helps. Jerry
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: paulerik5 on April 03, 2011, 07:11:28 pm
HI I have 86' GV 3208t 131000 miles 12 mpg at 63 miles per hour been all around the US 4 times love the old girl. my rig # 12562. paulerik
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Mike on April 16, 2011, 11:19:46 pm
ok try this one and tell me what it is g90375236sb1dored8.2
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: jeff on April 16, 2011, 11:25:26 pm
3752. If you ever call James T. @ the factory give him this number first and he can bring up ALL the information on your coach.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Dave Head on April 16, 2011, 11:38:17 pm
36 foot Grand Villa side bath Oshcosh chassis rear engine diesel with Detroit Diesel 8.2 'fuel pincher' Possibly a 1990 with an Allison MT643.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Mike on April 17, 2011, 08:02:02 am
where do you find this stuff
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Barry Beam on April 17, 2011, 09:59:30 am
Reading the VIN code (https://wiki.foreforums.com/doku.php?id=through_the_years:vin)
i understand that but where do you find the info to compare it to. alos where can i get books on the rv
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Dave Head on April 17, 2011, 12:51:01 pm
Contacting the manufacturer. The manufacturer determines the data elements and provides the breakdown to the guvmint. from the NHTSA website: A manufacturer of motor vehicles, including trailers that are manufactured for sale in the U.S., must submit to NHTSA information needed to decipher the characters of its VINs at least 60 days prior to offering for sale the first vehicle assigned such a VIN.
Manufacturers must also submit to NHTSA identifying information on themselves and the vehicles they manufacturer to the FMVSS no later than 30 days after their vehicles are offered for sale in the U.S. Manufacturers located outside the U.S. must designate a U.S. resident as their agent for service of process.
As far as 'books on the RV' - if you are talking a factory manual, replacements are no longer available. Try contacting your previous owner if they did not come with the coach.
If that is a non starter, there have been people here who copied their manuals for people in the same boat (RV). The Oshcosh manual info, for eample is pretty much the same year over year. You 'might' be able to get copies of wiring diagrams from the factory.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Barry Beam on April 17, 2011, 11:18:35 pm
i understand that but where do you find the info to compare it to. alos where can i get books on the rv
Mike, I sent you a GV owners manual.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Mike on April 18, 2011, 08:22:36 am
thanks Barry ill print it out
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Jeff and Victoria Moses on May 02, 2011, 04:05:39 pm
Barry, mine falls in one of thoses gaps. Its G90369340SAIU3006V, Glad to hepl out. Jeff I haven't seen another coach like mine.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: sambo on August 21, 2011, 08:40:22 am
Hello Barry, I am new to Foretravel and would like to know more about my Coach. Ha, I don't even know what the build number is. But want to learn. Here is what I found on the tag. FTX 866935 SBI. Can You help? Thanks alot Sam
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: PatC on August 21, 2011, 07:49:09 pm
Here's the secret decoder ring from Barry's initial request:
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the "model number" under the VIN number on the ID plate showing year - build number - size - Floorplan - Model - Engine (Which Engine) Example: F 03 6024 4023 AGDS U320T E31
Model, year and build number are helpful to have in your signature especially when asking technical questions. It's also useful to have that info handy when calling FOT (James Triana, Mark Harvey, etc.) for help.
Michelle
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: CHUG on July 04, 2012, 07:14:11 pm
Here is the model# for my 1992 Grand Villa,
G92410330SB0FEDE15
Need anything else let me know.
Ty
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: sgwynn on August 02, 2012, 09:27:51 pm
If you're still collecting. G90 3563 36SAI U280 0250
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: MR B2 on September 08, 2012, 02:27:18 am
Well I am new on here, I just bought a 1989 Grand Villa in Texas, Last week, Sight unseen, It will be driven from Texas to California on Monday where it will be changed to R/H drive and converted to Australian ADR's and then shipped to me here in Australia, So I wont see it for another 3 months till it gets here,
Its a 1989 built in August 1988, Grand Villa 3600 SB ORED 300 It looks magic in the piccys,
Vin # 10T9M9A80J1034290 I dont have a piccy of the number under the Vin, The Vin came on my receipt, Can you tell me please what the Vin Numbers mean, Please,
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Dan Noble on September 25, 2012, 09:30:14 am
G89 3260 40SPEC U280 250
according to this it is saying I should have a U280? Everthing else on the MH and paperwork says U300?
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: PatC on September 25, 2012, 01:12:15 pm
Well I am new on here, I just bought a 1989 Grand Villa in Texas, Last week, Sight unseen, It will be driven from Texas to California on Monday where it will be changed to R/H drive and converted to Australian ADR's and then shipped to me here in Australia, So I wont see it for another 3 months till it gets here,
Its a 1989 built in August 1988, Grand Villa 3600 SB ORED 300 It looks magic in the piccys,
Vin # 10T9M9A80J1034290 I dont have a piccy of the number under the Vin, The Vin came on my receipt, Can you tell me please what the Vin Numbers mean, Please,
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: geomm on November 17, 2012, 02:54:17 pm
Rick,
Yep, that's correct. Build number 4612. It was useful when I called the technical assist. guy at Foretravel last week to try and get some clarification on that output retarder sticker behind the I.D. plate.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Ian Ramsay on December 12, 2012, 11:02:46 pm
Hello everyone, I am a new member and i have a 1985 36ft Grandvilla and she is on the way to Australia. Motorcade No. 12562 Build Plate GVF 85261 2360 00RED-C . Just looking through the postings and found one from the previous owner. Great to get the history.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: MR B2 on December 14, 2012, 05:43:07 am
Hi Ian,
There is another 1984 0r 86 Grand Villa in Brisbane, I will look him up again, He lives pretty close to you, He's had his a couple of years,
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: MR B2 on December 14, 2012, 06:34:52 am
Its not a Unihome, its the model before it, My build no is either, 3429 or 4290 the full number is 34290 But I could be wrong on both,
Build # 3429 would be a 1989 model, 4290 would be closer to a 1993 model
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: perrydise on December 14, 2012, 09:44:57 am
Barry, I don't know if it matters reference build numbers but I sold my '93 U225, build #4285 to a nice couple in Lake Havasu City, Az. (I don't know whether they joined the forum or not) and on October 8th of this year I purchased (with a huge smile on my face) Brett Wolfe's '93 U240 build #4297 affectionately named "Roamie"!! I made the change with the factory.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: fouroureye on January 13, 2013, 10:58:14 am
We have an 88. Where do I find the build #?
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: JohnFitz on January 13, 2013, 07:01:31 pm
Foreoureye, Look at the plate on the wall next to the driver's seat. It's buried in the model number. Your's should start with G88.... The next four digits are your build number. I don't know if it's true on other coaches but our build number was hand written on the outside of the owners manuals with a magic marker as well as written inside in the first few pages.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: MR B2 on January 14, 2013, 11:23:53 am
VIN number won't contain build number. VIN is vehicle identifier, for title/registration purposes. Build number will be in the long ID number assigned by FT and not something I think you'd find easily via Google (try Beamalarm instead ;) or see the first post in this thread where Barry explains it )
Michelle
AH. that explains it, Barry Beam gave me a different number from my Vin number, I thought the Chassis number was the build number, I cant read the ID plates from the piccys, I will have to wait till it gets here, I did think it a bit odd that there were two different numbers,
Chassis Number is 4290,
Build number is 3460
My coach is currently in the north Pacific Ocean some where heading for Yokohama in Japan, ETA in OZ 15/2/2013.
There is a lot I have to learn about this coach,
Thanks, Michelle,
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Wayne on January 15, 2013, 05:54:51 pm
I'am new to the forum and fairly new to rving. Bought this rig early in 2009. Don't know if your post is new, but here are my numbers G90364438SBIU280250.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: John S on January 16, 2013, 12:16:26 am
I'am new to the forum and fairly new to rving. Bought this rig early in 2009. Don't know if your post is new, but here are my numbers G90364438SBIU280250.
G for Grandvilla 90 is your model year 3644 is your unit number 38 is your length SB Side Bath U 280 and the I is for side isle with the side bath instead of the walk thru.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: kb0zke on January 28, 2013, 08:56:45 pm
Are build numbers equivalent to a sequential serial number? Using the example above, does that mean that Wayne's coach is the 3,644th coach that Foretravel built?
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Barry Beam on January 28, 2013, 10:02:16 pm
Are build numbers equivalent to a sequential serial number? Using the example above, does that mean that Wayne's coach is the 3,644th coach that Foretravel built?
Yes that is correct
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: smillner on February 18, 2013, 01:22:13 am
I've been helping Sid who recently joined the Forum. His coach is FTX8523613500ORED-C. Thanks for all you do Barry.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: randy s on February 25, 2013, 12:00:10 pm
Barry, I have a 1989 gv ORED model #V-815-sp. It's a 36 foot spring suspension hydraulic brakes with 8.2 liter detriot. I bought it in 2003. I also have model #g94444640wtbu280we17 which is the 40' u280 that i bought in 2010. Wasn't aware of the motorcade until I found this forum last year.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: PatC on February 25, 2013, 03:12:28 pm
Randy, lift up the dash board cover (should be hinged) and it is under that on right hand side. Should give you build number and some front axle alignment specs.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: randy s on February 25, 2013, 03:32:20 pm
Patc and Barry, Mine was inside glove compartment and said Unit#3349 so I assume that is the build number.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Don Hay on February 25, 2013, 04:16:49 pm
Patc and Barry, Mine was inside glove compartment and said Unit#3349 so I assume that is the build number.
Randy,
I don't think that is your build #, as you have a 1994 U-280. On my '92 U-280 the build # is 4055. At that time they were building more than 200 coaches a year, so yours should be somwhere around 4400 + or - 100. FWIW.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: randy s on February 25, 2013, 05:07:04 pm
Don, Don't ask me why but I have two Foretravels. The 3349 is for my 89 GV. My 94 U280 is 4446 which I'm sure makes more sense.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: randy s on February 25, 2013, 05:11:05 pm
Sorry, my 94 is 4446.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: MR B2 on March 18, 2013, 03:57:36 pm
Here's mine, Finally, So the learned on here can tell me my build number,
According to the posts above, My build should be 3275, Is this correct,
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: JohnFitz on March 18, 2013, 05:13:04 pm
Brian, Yes, I think you have read the build number correctly. But, I don't recognize the second placard (with the model "V-17-") - I'm wondering if the export converter just added that one?
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: MR B2 on March 18, 2013, 05:15:36 pm
V 17 is the Oshkosh Chassis type,
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: nitehawk on March 19, 2013, 09:39:08 am
Our '89 GV does not have the V-17 Oshkosh Truck chassis plate either.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: MR B2 on April 21, 2013, 12:02:49 am
Brian, Yes, I think you have read the build number correctly. But, I don't recognize the second placard (with the model "V-17-") - I'm wondering if the export converter just added that one?
No, That plate was installed by Foretravel, There is nothing on it from the Export Converter,
As far as exporting my Bus, It came straight from the Dealer in Texas, and shipped from California, The Converter does not exist on my paper work,
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: red tractor on June 09, 2013, 09:35:20 pm
Your coach should have had the chassis model as v917 appears the 9 was missing
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: nitehawk on June 11, 2013, 10:44:37 pm
For what it is worth, Red, my '89 GV has the Oshkosh Truck #V-817-2. I think Brian's coach is same chassis as mine except for having a Cat engine and slightly different interior layout.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: cwdancer on June 30, 2013, 01:52:09 pm
We also own a 91 Grand Villa 36' build # 3922 -- see attached
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: twobus on July 18, 2013, 11:35:51 am
Here's ours, #3392.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Michelle on July 18, 2013, 06:39:12 pm
Looks like I haven't reported my 2002 U270 that was made in November 2001. It is #5981.
Is someone keeping track in a spreadsheet or something?
In the first post of this topic, Barry asked for build numbers and relevant coach info for specific ranges of coaches where he is trying to fill in the blanks on certain years (up through 1994). That's the purpose of this topic.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: P. Wyatt Sabourin on July 22, 2013, 07:06:48 pm
Barry: Do you have a file somewhere on Foreforums with the known build numbers and do you know what the build numbers are for the new Foretravels today? I remember something like 6520 a couple years ago.
If there are 6500 Foretravels with 315 million people in USA and 35 million in Canada, then only one person of 55,000 owns a Foretravel in USA and Canada. There are 750,000 people on Vancouver Island (Canada) and I know of only 8 Foretravels (there could be more), so that is one in 90,000 people. We Foretravel Owners are rare indeed.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Barry Beam on July 22, 2013, 07:46:57 pm
Barry: Do you have a file somewhere on Foreforums with the known build numbers
No
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Do you know what the build numbers are for the new Foretravels today? I remember something like 6520 a couple years ago.
Around 6584
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: fredlewers on April 15, 2014, 12:37:29 am
Hi Barry, the VIN is 10T9M9A31E1023468 The number under that on my data sticker is labeled 'Type' & that number is FTX8524233500ORED-C. I think the Last 5 digits are ORED-C but it might be Zero RED-C... The date of mfg is Sep 84 & the model year on the title is 1984. The number above the windshield is 15691. From what you've posted, I think my build number is 2423. I appreciate your help in verifying or correcting my assumption. Fred
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: littledubz on May 28, 2014, 04:19:49 pm
One more Foretravel built in the 90's checking in.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Caflashbob on May 28, 2014, 09:32:17 pm
Hi Barry, the VIN is 10T9M9A31E1023468 The number under that on my data sticker is labeled 'Type' & that number is FTX8524233500ORED-C. I think the Last 5 digits are ORED-C but it might be Zero RED-C... The date of mfg is Sep 84 & the model year on the title is 1984. The number above the windshield is 15691. From what you've posted, I think my build number is 2423. I appreciate your help in verifying or correcting my assumption. Fred
Mis identified as its a 85.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: MR B2 on May 29, 2014, 04:37:08 am
Here's mine, Finally, So the learned on here can tell me my build number,
According to the posts above, My build should be 3275, Is this correct,
Now I know a little bit more about these plates, The one on the right is for the Chassis Build, From Oshkosh, The one on the left is for the Foretravel Build Specs,
The one on the right will be attached to your Coach some where, Maybe rivetted to the Chassis, They are both required by law, and must be permanently attached to any Vehicle, They are the manufacturers ID for registration,
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: JohnFitz on May 29, 2014, 08:56:45 am
Hi Barry, the VIN is 10T9M9A31E1023468 The number under that on my data sticker is labeled 'Type' & that number is FTX8524233500ORED-C. I think the Last 5 digits are ORED-C but it might be Zero RED-C... The date of mfg is Sep 84 & the model year on the title is 1984. The number above the windshield is 15691. From what you've posted, I think my build number is 2423. I appreciate your help in verifying or correcting my assumption. Fred
Yes, I think your build number is 2423. ORED is chassis = Oshkosh Rear Engine Diesel There's a difference between "model year" and "date of manufacture". I would say you have a 1985 "model year" because of the "FTX85" in Type number. Not unusual for "date of manufacture" of coach and engine/chassis to be a year earlier. Found this to be interesting : Model year - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_year) Here's info from the wiki Reading the VIN code (https://wiki.foreforums.com/doku.php?id=through_the_years:vin)
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: lgshoup on November 26, 2014, 02:36:31 pm
Probably be sorry I jumped in but...the build numbers aren't model-specific but only sequential from the very first Foretravel up to and including the one just starting down the line. Also, if there were a Foretravel for every person in North America we'd still be a "rare Breed!" ^.^d
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Michelle on November 27, 2014, 09:38:41 am
I wonder how many of the older coaches are still around and how many were built in the earlier years (without guessing). ::) I am trying to finish up a few projects and I am looking for Coach Build numbers on any coach: 1988 or earlier 1989 or earlier 1990 Build Numbers between 3497 - 3755 1991 Build Numbers between 3756 - 3959 1992 Build Numbers between 3960 - 4170 1993 Build Numbers between 4171 - 4389 1994 Build Numbers between 4390 - 4593
Just a reminder of the purpose of this thread - to collect info on the older coaches.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Andy 2 on November 27, 2014, 04:58:43 pm
On our 92 U 300 the build # is 4135
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Gerry Vicha on November 27, 2014, 06:26:40 pm
My build number is 4466 this coach is 1994, however the build date is October/November 1993. For what it's worth. ;)
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: fkjohns6083 on November 27, 2014, 09:57:37 pm
I'm sure that Gary has our build no., but just in case ---- Our 91 GV build no. is 3788. It would be interesting to know how many there are that are older than this. Thanks and have a great day. ---- Fritz
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: hcharlson on November 29, 2014, 09:33:40 am
1992 U280 Build Number 4133 March 1992
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Hammer2100 on November 30, 2014, 08:08:42 pm
Here is our 1994 U280 build #4451 Sept 1993
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Skinnywater on January 12, 2015, 09:10:47 am
What do Coach Builder Numbers indicate?
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: D.J. Osborn on January 12, 2015, 09:46:40 am
My understanding is that they simply indicate the sequence of building the coaches. In other words, the first coach Foretravel built would have been 0001, the next 0002, etc..
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on January 12, 2015, 09:51:27 am
@Skinnywater
The "model number" under the VIN number on the ID plate shows: Year - Build Number - Length - Floorplan - Model - Engine, etc. Foretravel Model Code (https://wiki.foreforums.com/doku.php?id=through_the_years:model-codes)
The build number is the sequential number assigned to your coach when it is manufactured. Each coach has a unique identifying number. The number for "your" coach tells you (roughly) how many total units were built before yours came down the line. Model, year and build number are helpful to have in your signature especially when asking technical questions. It's also useful to have that info handy when calling FOT for help.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Barry Beam on January 24, 2015, 08:35:09 pm
We met this nice couple at Q with a 1987 32' Front Engine Diesel with MC# 4169. They had this coach for many years and a Travco before that for 20 years. Held several officer positions and knew most of the old timers that are left in the MC Club.
Build #2822 Built 8/1986
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Nick Cagle on February 25, 2015, 09:39:34 pm
I know this thread goes back over the last 5 years but was wondering if anyone has accumulated this information and made it available to the forum members. Before we owned our Foretravel, we owned a Barth Regency. The history of the Barth and Foretravel companies have a lot of historical similarities. Barth closed the doors in 1997 and with the closing all of the support we can still get from FOT was gone FOREVER.
But back to the point, I started a project to collect all the information I could on the Barth models over the years. The Barth has a Data Tag much like our Foretravels. We began collecting those tags and included a data base of them on the Barthmobile.com website. I found the information interesting and very useful. Being able to contact other owners that may have your same model coach, floor plan, engine, transmission, or other major component made troubleshooting often much easier.
I will try to make a link to the Barth data base for your review but I am not the most computer wizard on the block.
Login To: Barthmobile Portal (http://www.barthmobile.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/7261003003)
Nick
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Nick Cagle on February 25, 2015, 09:55:16 pm
Sorry, I should have told how their Number was decoded. This was the tag number on our Barth 9207 0160 32RG 2C 7/14/92 9207 1992 7th month 0160 Sequential 160th Regency built 32RG 32 foot Regency Gillig chassis 2C Floor plan
Nick
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: TulsaTrent on February 25, 2015, 10:19:02 pm
I am very familiar with the U320. What is a U320T?
T is for Tag axle
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: TulsaTrent on February 25, 2015, 10:25:23 pm
Michelle,
Thanks,
Trent
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Karl Shurtleff on April 10, 2015, 07:57:36 am
I inherited my parents U280 after their death in 2004. It has been stored for the past 10 years and am in the process of getting it up and on the road. VIN: 1FT97D5366RN054809 MODEL NO : G94448736WTBIU280WE17
Karl Shurtleff Kingwood. TX
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: FourTravelers on July 31, 2015, 08:55:52 pm
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Cressrb on August 26, 2015, 09:56:28 pm
Here are our numbers:
G90 3722 36 SBID U280 250
Richard and Bonnie Cresse Salt Lake City, UT
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: dburt on August 27, 2015, 07:27:16 pm
I think I may have figured out how to add pics of the data plate to this posting. ::)
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Michelle on August 27, 2015, 07:51:22 pm
This topic is for build numbers. I've asked the moderators to move the other questions/discussion to a new topic.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: dburt on August 27, 2015, 10:36:15 pm
Oh my, it appears I have offended the politically correct :o I will try to be more precise in the future and make certain that I place any questions, comments, remarks, etc etc in the right place on this forum.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Raymond Jordan on August 28, 2015, 10:00:55 am
Hi Michelle, It will never get old thanking Michelle, Steve, and the moderators, for keeping this wonderful forum running well. The forum, and the big five, are the best. Like the new avatar. Raymond
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: dburt on August 28, 2015, 05:29:26 pm
No offense taken Michelle! ^.^d Perhaps 'politically correct' was not the right term but a better one escaped me at the time. I should have said something like "I ran afoul of the law", or "I got crossed up sideways with the forum boss", etc, so my attempt at being humorous did not fly very well in retrospect. I will try to be more circumspect in the future! ;D
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Balcanthez on August 30, 2015, 01:08:38 am
Barry,
Long time stalker, and impatient future buyer of a used FT. I've been following this forum for a while and getting better at easing my future diesel purchase (only worked on gas engines before :o ). Next few weeks hoping to be driving my own.
I see a lot of numbers here. Are you planning on making a database for future users to see? If so, I have a few additional Model #s for you. These are from my recent search for a new (to me) FT: G 91 3936 36 SBID U240 250 G 93 4197 36 SBID O22C E13 G 93 4326 40 WTBS U300W E11 G 94 4480 36 SBID U280W E17 G 94 4593 36 WTBI U240 E20 G 95 4646 40 WTBI U300W E18 (This is my #1 Choice, $25K) F 95 4740 40 WTBS U320C E24 F 98 5360 36 WTFE U270C E25
What I would like to see is an engine code chart. I really have to strain to find out the E18 is a CAT 3176 and a E11 is a DD6V92.
I also contacted FOT about information on build #4646, but no answer just yet.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: its toby on September 25, 2015, 09:32:15 pm
doesn't seem to want to post from my phone. toby g94 4457236 sbid u280w e21
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Balcanthez on September 25, 2015, 10:57:48 pm
Interesting, I found a '95 with E21 but it had a MD3060R (retarder). Maybe the engine code isn't inclusive of engine and transmission combinations. So far I have: E-Code Eng Make Desig HP Trans Make Desig Speed Retarder Years Coaches E25 Cummings 8.3 325 Allison MD3060R 6 Retarder 1998 U270 E24 Cummings M-11 Allison 6 Retarder 1995 U320CSE E21 Cummings 8.3 300 Allison MD3060R 6 Retarder 1995 U280 E20 Catepillar 3116 250 Allison MD3060R 6 Retarder 1995 U240 E18 Catepillar 3176 350 Allison HD4060R 6 Retarder 1995 U300 E17 Cummings 300 Allison 6 1995 U280 E15 Cummings 5.9 190 Allison 4 1992 GV3000 E14 Cummings 8.3 300 Allison MT647 4 Jake 1993 U280 E13 Cummings 8.3 300 Allison 6 1993 O22C E12 Cummings 6BTA 5.9 230 Allison MT643 4 Jake 1991 U225 E11 Detroit Diesel 6V92 350 Allison 6 Retarder 1994, 1993 U300SE
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Super8mm on December 05, 2017, 09:58:33 pm
I am trying to figure out my build number but I cant to have enough numeric's to work with??
Like Jacks post if it is the NCC number it is 5540.
My number does not match the numeric sequence that you posted, that is what made me wonder
NCC means the Net Carrying Capacity of your Coach. This figure is the difference between the GVW and the dry weight.
5179 seems to be the correct answer.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Don & Tys on December 05, 2017, 10:27:36 pm
NCC= Net Carrying Capacity. The terminology and way of determining the cargo capacity or carrying capacity varied over the years. Since ours is a 99' and the build number is 5402, I think that your number must be 5179 (from the model number on the VIN# plaque. During this period, Foretravel was at their peak building about 225 to 250 coaches a year, so 5179 would be about right. Below is a close up of the model number on ours. Don
NCC= Net Carrying Capacity. The terminology and way of determining the cargo capacity or carrying capacity varied over the years. Since ours is a 99' and the build number is 5402, I think that your number must be 5179 (from the model number on the VIN# plaque. During this period, Foretravel was at their peak building about 225 to 250 coaches a year, so 5179 would be about right. Below is a close up of the model number on ours. Don
Thanks Don, so you only have 2 digits too for the Internal Designations part if the number?
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Don & Tys on December 05, 2017, 10:47:51 pm
The number following the build number (2 digits) is the length. The following two numbers Dan posted possibly refers to the fact that his has a tag axle, but just a guess. Don
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Super8mm on December 05, 2017, 10:54:24 pm
The number following the build number (2 digits) is the length. The following two numbers Dan posted possibly refers to the fact that his has a tag axle, but just a guess. Don
Ok, that makes sense, boy do I have a lot to learn :)
Thanks
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Old phart phred on December 05, 2017, 11:18:04 pm
My build number 3504 is indicated on the alignment specs, and again in the model number.
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: Pamela & Mike on December 06, 2017, 07:17:35 am
The number following the build number (2 digits) is the length. The following two numbers Dan posted possibly refers to the fact that his has a tag axle, but just a guess. Don
Don,
The 4023 number broke down on Dan's era coach should be this 40 is the length (You are correct about this) 2 the number of slides 3 the interior wood designation (seems like this number could be 0, 1, 2, or 3 depending on the wood used)
Mike
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: jhardman on December 11, 2017, 02:19:22 pm
I think I may have an interesting unit.
1996 U295 36 Build #4879
Vin indicates a 97' I believe
(Formerly Elliott & Mary Bray's coach, Toonie)
Title: Re: Coach Build Numbers
Post by: hdff on December 11, 2017, 02:36:24 pm