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Title: HWH Hydraulic Fluid for Slide
Post by: Ben and Bonnie on February 01, 2011, 05:21:36 pm
Does anyone know where I could get the undyed hydraulic fluid for my slide? I would like to find some locally, but NAPA doesn't carry it and the Camping World near me didn't have it.
Thanks.

Ben Harris
1999 40' w/ slide
Title: Re: HWH Hydrallic Fluid for Slide
Post by: Bob McGee on February 01, 2011, 05:52:26 pm
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Does anyone know where I could get the undyed hydrallic fluid for my slide?

Any RV repair shops close by Ben?
Title: Re: HWH Hydrallic Fluid for Slide
Post by: Ben and Bonnie on February 01, 2011, 06:07:41 pm
Bob, I called Camping World in Roanoke and they didn't have any. There is Tom Johnson's RV dealership but they are almost 3 hours away. I was hoping to find some fluid closer.

Ben
1999 U320
Title: Re: HWH Hydrallic Fluid for Slide
Post by: PatC on February 01, 2011, 09:01:57 pm
Aren't there any little RV places around.  I've had much better luck with the local RV shops and dealers that I have had with the big guys.
Title: Re: HWH Hydrallic Fluid for Slide
Post by: Ben and Bonnie on February 01, 2011, 09:08:17 pm
No little RV shops around us, we live in the Sticks.

Ben Harris
1999 U320
Title: Re: HWH Hydrallic Fluid for Slide
Post by: PatC on February 01, 2011, 09:56:40 pm
No little RV shops around us, we live in the Sticks.

Ben Harris
1999 U320
Me too, but have a number of little shops/dealers within a hours drive.  But the big ones are a couple hours away.  Dig out that phone book and see if you can find any.
Title: Re: HWH Hydrallic Fluid for Slide
Post by: Ben and Bonnie on February 01, 2011, 10:18:37 pm
I am sure I will find the oil tomorrow, there are two RV dealers in Mt. Airy NC about 45 min. to 1 hr from me, if not I will put regular transmission oil in it and order the good stuff from HWH. I just hope this correct my problem.

Ben
1999 u320
Title: Re: HWH Hydrallic Fluid for Slide
Post by: wolfe10 on February 02, 2011, 07:51:09 am
Call HWH.

Get a list of acceptablealternate fluids OR the Mil Specs for acceptable fluids.  This shouldn't be rocket science.

Brett
Title: Re: HWH Hydrallic Fluid for Slide
Post by: PatC on February 02, 2011, 11:09:02 am
From HWH web site.  If you use Dexron, if it leaks, it will stain.

HWH Specialty Hydraulic Oil - ML23835.pdf (http://www.hwhcorp.com/ml23835.pdf)

Material Safety Data Sheets
HWH Low Temp Hydraulic Oil 12/1Qt - http://www.hwhcorp.com/L-10700B(HWH47369).pdf (http://www.hwhcorp.com/L-10700B(HWH47369).pdf)
HWH Specialty Hydraulic Oil 12/1Qt (Warren Dist.) -  http://www.hwhcorp.com/L-10700A(HWH22866,WarrenDist).pdf (http://www.hwhcorp.com/L-10700A(HWH22866,WarrenDist).pdf)
HWH Super ATF, Undyed Automatic Transmission Fluid (Conoco) -  http://www.hwhcorp.com/L-10700(HWH22866,Conoco).pdf (http://www.hwhcorp.com/L-10700(HWH22866,Conoco).pdf)


Only use one of the following synthetic fluids to replace the existing ATF in the system.
These fluids are compatible with Dexron ATF or HWH Specialty Hydraulic Oil.
Castrol Heavy Duty Lubricants - TranSynd
BP Lubricants - Autrand Syn 295
Cognis Corporation - Emgard 2805
International Truck and Engine Company - Fleetrite Synthetic ATF
Exxon Mobil Lubricants - Mobil Delvac Synthetic ATF
John Deere & Company - HD SynTran
Volvo Trucks North America - Bulldog Synthetic ATF

And if it is dyed and the system leaks, it will leave stains.
Title: Re: HWH Hydrallic Fluid for Slide
Post by: Ben and Bonnie on February 02, 2011, 12:21:28 pm
Thanks Pat, I'll take this list and start making some calls.

Ben Harris
Title: Re: HWH Hydrallic Fluid for Slide
Post by: Crazy J on February 02, 2011, 06:11:00 pm
Camping World carries HWH fluid, there item # 20763. It is my understanding that all stores have it in stock.  Camping Worlds main # is 1-888-626-7576 if you need help.
Title: Re: HWH Hydrallic Fluid for Slide
Post by: Ben and Bonnie on February 02, 2011, 09:22:39 pm
I called both VA. and NC stores and they told me they did not carry it?? Sales person not informed?
I called Foretravel and had them send me a few qts.

Thanks ever body

Ben
Title: Re: HWH Hydrallic Fluid for Slide
Post by: George Stoltz on February 02, 2011, 10:01:25 pm
Where is fluid added to the HWH system?
Title: Re: HWH Hydrallic Fluid for Slide
Post by: John S on February 02, 2011, 11:37:51 pm
In the cap on the top of the pump.
Title: Re: HWH Hydrallic Fluid for Slide
Post by: PatC on February 03, 2011, 12:32:56 am
Delvac syn atf is for your transmission.
Jeff,
The Mobil Delvac Synthetic ATF and other fluids are right from the HWH web site.  http://www.hwhcorp.com/ml46791.pdf (http://www.hwhcorp.com/ml46791.pdf).  And here is the link for specs on their own HWH oil that they have refined in their name:  HWH Hydraulic Oil (http://hwhcorp.com/hydraulicoil3.html).

The Mobil DTE is not listed by them.
Title: Re: HWH Hydrallic Fluid for Slide
Post by: Ben and Bonnie on February 03, 2011, 09:24:31 am
 The cap on top of the tank  is also a dip stick, you will need a small funnel or a hand held pump to fill it,

Ben

1999 u320/slide
Title: Re: HWH Hydrallic Fluid for Slide
Post by: George Stoltz on February 03, 2011, 09:27:28 am
Ben,
Where is your tank located?

Thanks
Title: Re: HWH Hydraulic Fluid for Slide
Post by: Ben and Bonnie on February 03, 2011, 02:15:39 pm
George, left side, second compartment, on rear wall near door. Every thing is painted black with wires and hoses going from it

Ben 1999/slide
Title: Re: HWH Hydraulic Fluid for Slide
Post by: Ben and Bonnie on February 03, 2011, 08:50:08 pm
I have a  picture of the HWH box

Ben
Title: Re: HWH Hydraulic Fluid for Slide
Post by: George Stoltz on February 03, 2011, 08:55:20 pm
Ben,

Thank you so much.  I honestly did not know what that box was for.  I will check the fluid level tomorrow.  You have been very helpful.
Title: Re: HWH Hydraulic Fluid for Slide
Post by: Michelle on February 03, 2011, 09:11:32 pm
Ben,

Thank you so much.  I honestly did not know what that box was for.  I will check the fluid level tomorrow. 

George,

You'll want to check with James Triana to find out whether to check your hydraulic fluid level with the slide in or out, unless it's in one of your manuals.  IIRC in some coaches you need the slide out, in others you want the slide in.  I know Steve had to call him and find out for our coach.

Michelle
Title: Re: HWH Hydraulic Fluid for Slide
Post by: George Stoltz on February 03, 2011, 09:22:50 pm
Thanks, Michelle, for catching my back. I will certainly find out. I've made a few mistakes due to lack of correct information. Don't want to do anything that is going to cause a problem.

Hopefully, the owner of a 2000 w/slide will chime in. No local phone service here, so it is tough when I have to leave a message and don't know when to drive back to where we get a strong cell signal. But that goes hand in hand with full-timing.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: HWH Hydraulic Fluid for Slide -- Am I Low????
Post by: George Stoltz on February 05, 2011, 10:46:11 am
I don't want to assume.  I unscrewed the cap on the HWH hydraulic fluid reservoir and found fluid just barely touching the bottom line (see photo).  Does this mean I am low, BUT within a safe operating level?

Also,  I don't want to be penny wide and pound foolish, but ordering a quart from HWH seems like a very expensive way to get it.  Is there some readily available hydraulic oil that is compatible with what HWH installs?

Thank you.
Title: Re: HWH Hydraulic Fluid for Slide
Post by: wolfe10 on February 05, 2011, 11:09:21 am
The fluid level should be between the two marks with jacks stowed (after using the normal/correct stow procedure).  By using the correct procedure, you insure that fluid is not trapped in those long lines to the jacks.

Brett
Title: Re: HWH Hydraulic Fluid for Slide
Post by: George Stoltz on February 05, 2011, 11:56:53 am
Thank you, Brett
Title: Re: HWH Hydraulic Fluid for Slide
Post by: George Stoltz on February 09, 2011, 06:33:39 pm
The ATF fluid in my HWH system is red.  I did not want to swap it out so I called Mike Rodgers at MOT to ask what they use.  They use:

Dexron III/Mercron  (I might not have the spelling correct)

Mike also confirmed what Mark Harvey told me and that is to check the fluid level on a 2000 single slide with with slide in.
Title: Re: HWH Hydraulic Fluid for Slide
Post by: PatC on February 10, 2011, 01:03:39 am
The ATF fluid in my HWH system is red.    They use:

Dexron III/Mercron  (I might not have the spelling correct)
The Dexron ATF is the reason it is red.  Dexron has red dye in it.  HWH has a warning about that on their web site, the fact that Dexron ATF will stain if the system leaks.  The HWH fluid and some of the other approved fluids are clear.
Title: Re: HWH Hydraulic Fluid for Slide
Post by: George Stoltz on February 10, 2011, 01:13:46 am
Pat,
I understand about the possibility of red stains. That does not make me want to drain and change to clear. Sorry, I didn't elaborate enough to make that clear.

George Stoltz