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Title: coach dash heater output/cruise control
Post by: Bill Schlaudecker on March 03, 2011, 11:47:20 pm
OK, I'm driving along, engine warmed up, with heat pouring out of the the dash or floor vents.  I set the cruise control to a speed, and within minutes, the heat output drops off significantly, followed by complaints from my wife.  When I hit cancel on the cruise control, the heat slowly comes back, and the complaints stop.  I know it sounds crazy, but I have observed this for several years.  Any ideas?  It is not my imagination.

Bill Schlaudecker
2000 U270
Title: Re: coach dash heater output/cruise control
Post by: Paul Smith on March 03, 2011, 11:52:18 pm
Is the question, "How to fix my heater," or "How to stop my wife's complaints?" (Running and Ducking.... ;o)

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OK, I'm driving along, engine warmed up, with heat pouring out of the the dash or floor vents. I set the cruise control to a speed, and within minutes, the heat output drops off significantly, followed by complaints from my wife. When I hit cancel on the cruise control, the heat slowly comes back, and the complaints stop.  I know it sounds crazy, but I have observed this for several years. Any ideas? It is not my imagination.
Title: Re: coach dash heater output/cruise control
Post by: Steve & Ginny Hill on March 04, 2011, 06:24:27 am
Does the volume of air coming out decrease, or just the temp of the air?
Title: Re: coach dash heater output/cruise control
Post by: Peter & Beth on March 04, 2011, 09:14:48 am
Bill,
Can you tell us if the volume of air from the vents stays the same or is reduced with the cruise control engaged?  Also, in the winter, it may be advisable to close the "motoraid" valve to the hot water heater to increase the output of hot fluid to the heater core.  [Caveat: assumes you have a hot water heater and not an Aquahot.]
Title: Re: coach dash heater output/cruise control
Post by: spoiled122843 on March 04, 2011, 09:21:30 am
Need to determine what is common between the cruise and heater.  I would bet it is vacuum.
Title: Re: coach dash heater output/cruise control
Post by: Bill Schlaudecker on March 04, 2011, 01:25:18 pm
The airflow from the vents does not change.  Just the temp drop.  I do have the hot water valve closed.  When I have cruise control not set to a speed, my heat output is quite good.

Bill Schlaudecker
2000 U270
Title: Re: coach dash heater output/cruise control
Post by: jeff on March 04, 2011, 03:02:27 pm
Bill,

You got me thinking, so, since I was on the road today I did some playing with switches...now, I am really comfused.  No air running on dash, temp setting as low as it will go....THEN, when I use the retarter, temperature goes way up. So much so the only way to lower it is to RAISE the lowest cool setting to mid way..then everything is fine again.....and no, I am not making this up.  Happens every time.  :-\ ::)
Title: Re: coach dash heater output/cruise control
Post by: Peter & Beth on March 04, 2011, 03:13:31 pm
I'm not sure but, Jeff, in your case I can see this happening as when the retarder is engaged, all the energy it's absorbing is being transfered to the trans fluid which gets cooled in the same area as the coolant.  It could then be raising the coolant temperarure and thus providing you with all that extra boost of dash heat.
Title: Re: coach dash heater output/cruise control
Post by: Bill Schlaudecker on March 04, 2011, 03:48:30 pm
When the retarder is activated, cruise is automatically disconnected so there is that common element.  But I can't make a connection to the heater.

Bill Schlaudecker
Title: Re: coach dash heater output/cruise control
Post by: Peter & Beth on March 04, 2011, 04:10:53 pm
Bill, I can't imagine how your condition is created.  Is your dash heater control managed electrically , or is it a mechanical wire type control?  If it's electronically contolled, then start looking where these wires (cruise & heater) meet.
Title: Re: coach dash heater output/cruise control
Post by: Kent Speers on March 04, 2011, 04:20:49 pm
From my experience if Bill's heating valve is electrical, there is a bad ground either to the heating switch or cruise control. Now the fun part, finding it. If the valve is not electrical, well then I have no idea.
Title: Re: coach dash heater output/cruise control
Post by: PatC on March 05, 2011, 05:25:01 pm
Don't they both use the same 12 volt vacuum pump?
Title: Re: coach dash heater output/cruise control
Post by: John S on March 08, 2011, 09:14:38 am
Check and see if the heat starts coming out of the defroster vents. It has to go somewhere and the default for no vacuum is the defroster vent.  IT may be partially closing and going up not towards you.