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Title: Propane limiter for Generator?
Post by: nitehawk on April 26, 2011, 06:40:59 pm
In January we went south. Had to use the propane fired Genny to keep warm. It shut off when Monitor system said we still had a half tank. Is there some kind of limiting device that shuts of the genny at some set point? I know there is one for gas and diesel, but find nothing in my manuals describing this. Of course, there also was nothing in the manuals telling me to turn off the valve behind the ice maker so we would get heat up front either!!
Title: Re: Propane limiter for Generator?
Post by: wolfe10 on April 26, 2011, 06:50:00 pm
No, there is no shut off device on the propane generator. It will run until you are out of propane (assuming no generator issues).

Brett
Title: Re: Propane limiter for Generator?
Post by: nitehawk on April 26, 2011, 07:14:47 pm
Thanks Brett,

Then, that begs the question: "Why did the Genny shut off when I still had a half tank?" I have started it up and used it since then with no problems. It has 468 hours on it since a rebuild. Initially, right after we got the coach, the Genny would "lope" for awhile, but now runs steady.
Title: Re: Propane limiter for Generator?
Post by: Kent Speers on April 26, 2011, 08:47:06 pm
Thanks Brett,

Then, that begs the question: "Why did the Genny shut off when I still had a half tank?" I have started it up and used it since then with no problems. It has 468 hours on it since a rebuild. Initially, right after we got the coach, the Genny would "lope" for awhile, but now runs steady.

My bet is that it heard one too many of your jokes!!!
Title: Re: Propane limiter for Generator?
Post by: wolfe10 on April 26, 2011, 09:00:57 pm
Lopping, hard start and dying are all symptoms of a clogged on-generator propane regulator on a liquid LP generator.

They can be overhauled (using proper high-temp gasket set) or replaced.  Many of us have converted to high pressure VAPOR to eliminate the problem with long hydrocarbon chain "contaminants".

Brett
Title: Re: Propane limiter for Generator?
Post by: John Cooper on April 27, 2011, 12:46:54 pm
Brett,

Tell us more about the high pressure VAPOR you have installed.  Where does one get it and how difficult is it to install?
Title: Re: Propane limiter for Generator?
Post by: wolfe10 on April 27, 2011, 01:19:06 pm
Our propane tank has two ports-- a liquid port that goes to the liquid LP generator and the vapor port that goes through the regulator and then supplies the "house".

After discovering a contaminated on-generator regulator-- filled with a light viscosity grease-like substance, I consulted the engineers at Marshall Gas who make the house regulators.  They are located in San Marcos, TX.  Their suggestion, which I also ran by an engineer at Onan was to convert to high pressure vapor.  The only possible negative would be in extremely cold weather where the flow rate could cause the valve area of the tank to freeze.  Since our tank is large, and we don't camp in way below freezing temperatures, this has never been an issue for us.

To convert from liquid to high pressure vapor for your generator, turn off the liquid LP port at the tank.  Run the generator until out of fuel.  Disconnect the line from the liquid port and install a permanent cap.

"T" into the vapor side between tank and present regulator.  I installed a ball valve and then fitting to allow the original line to the generator to be connected to it. 

Cost under $20.  Now, no more long hydrocarbon comtaminants to clog the on-generator regulator.  Note:  if the regulator is already contaminated, it will need to be overhauled (be sure to use the high temp gasket set) or replaced.


Been running mine like this for many years.

Brett