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Title: Creation Window locks
Post by: Brad & Christine Slaughter on May 25, 2011, 07:55:38 pm
I have managed to break off two of the tabs on my Creation windows locks.  It looks like replacement locks can be pop-riveted on.  Has anyone else had the problem...and found replacement locks??  It isn't likely those windows would open on their own, but it would be nice to get them back to their original condition, with the locking tabs.  Thanks...
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: Peter & Beth on May 25, 2011, 08:03:07 pm
I think that Xtreme has replaced a few windows with upgraded ones from time to time.  You might give Jim or Jennifer a call...what a ya gotta loose?
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: MAZ on May 25, 2011, 10:04:31 pm
I think this place has them. Take a look.

RV Windshields, RV Windows, Shuttle Bus windows, (http://www.parkin-acc.com/)

Regards, Mark
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: aspenpilot on May 25, 2011, 10:15:53 pm
Hi Brad & Christine,

If you have the same types of windows that I have in my '99 270, you can purchase the locks directly from Foretravel in either black or red.  I replaced five of mine in January using pop rivets.
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: George Hatfield on May 26, 2011, 12:12:10 am
One of our locks (2003) broke a few weeks ago and it should be similar to yours.  Pat called FOT and yes, they do have replacements, but only in red.  They cost about $7 each and the rivets are about $0.50 each.  For me, the rivets were worthless since I don't have the proper tool, but I was able to find a small bolt (10x24, 1/2" I think) and a self locking nut.  Works like a charm.  See the photo.
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: Barry & Cindy on May 26, 2011, 12:27:35 am
Bought new plastic locks from Foretravel and used a short bolt and nut to fasten with a drop of Loctite to keep nut from loosening.  Red & black are identical windows and open the same way. No need to use red lock, if you don't want.
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: Brad & Christine Slaughter on May 26, 2011, 12:22:21 pm
I think this place has them. Take a look.

RV Windshields, RV Windows, Shuttle Bus windows, (http://www.parkin-acc.com/)

Regards, Mark
Thanks...I sent them an email....
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: Brad & Christine Slaughter on May 26, 2011, 12:25:42 pm
LOL.  I see I'm not the only one to break them.  Frankly, I didn't even think that the "mother-ship" in Nac would carry such a little part.  Thanks, everyone.
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: Dick S on May 26, 2011, 01:52:03 pm
Brad, let us know what you find out. We could use three of them :-[
Dick
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: PatC on May 26, 2011, 02:57:27 pm
I think this place has them. Take a look.

RV Windshields, RV Windows, Shuttle Bus windows, (http://www.parkin-acc.com/)

Regards, Mark
What there would one use to lock the sliding screens on a '94 U225?
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: Barry Beam on May 26, 2011, 03:12:27 pm

What there would one use to lock the sliding screens on a '94 U225?
It is not a lock but you can use a dowel as a temporary measure.
I use one to keep my closet sliding mirror from opening.
Or you can put a screw in the track to prevent opening.
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: Brad & Christine Slaughter on May 26, 2011, 03:33:35 pm
Here is the email I got in return.  Sounds like the rivets aren't needed anyway.  The pictures of the bolt/nut combinations look like an easier (and prettier) fix than using pop-rivets.

"Hi Brad,

These are $5.00 plus shipping.
No, they do not come with rivets.

Thank you,

Doug Parsons
ParKin Accessories
2920 Gateway Drive
Elkhart, IN 46514
1-800-637-8938
RV Windshields, RV Windows, Shuttle Bus windows, (http://www.parkin-acc.com) "
 
 

Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: PatC on May 26, 2011, 03:39:42 pm

What there would one use to lock the sliding screens on a '94 U225?
It is not a lock but you can use a dowel as a temporary measure.
I use one to keep my closet sliding mirror from opening.
Or you can put a screw in the track to prevent opening.
That should work.  The cats love open screened windows.  Don't think they would try to escape, cause they seem to be afraid of open doors and run the other way - but one can't be careful enough.
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: gam on May 26, 2011, 03:42:57 pm
The red locks are used on the emergency egress windows. Joe
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: Kent Speers on May 26, 2011, 04:43:30 pm
I think this place has them. Take a look.

RV Windshields, RV Windows, Shuttle Bus windows, (http://www.parkin-acc.com/)

Regards, Mark
What there would one use to lock the sliding screens on a '94 U225?

Pat, I'm not sure I understand what you are asking but if it is a source for the plastic handle for the screens, Hehr Intl., in Newton, Kansas should have them. (316) 283-6100
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: PatC on May 27, 2011, 11:54:51 pm
I think this place has them. Take a look.

RV Windshields, RV Windows, Shuttle Bus windows, (http://www.parkin-acc.com/)

Regards, Mark
What there would one use to lock the sliding screens on a '94 U225?

Pat, I'm not sure I understand what you are asking but if it is a source for the plastic handle for the screens, Hehr Intl., in Newton, Kansas should have them. (316) 283-6100
When the windows are open, the screens are extremely easy to slide to open position from the closed position.
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: Tom Lang on May 28, 2011, 12:20:26 am
The red locks are used on the emergency egress windows. Joe

All the windows are the same, and can be used as emergency exits.  Foretravel just used enough red latches to meet legal requirements.  I broke two of mine a couple of years ago, and got the replacements with nuts and bolts from Foretravel.  Next time one breaks, I'd like to use something more break-resistant.  I'm thinking of a flanged radio knob with one side of the flange cut away.
Title: plastic window locks
Post by: John Haygarth on June 13, 2011, 03:49:49 pm
has anyone had to replace those plastic locks on the sliding windows, and if so are they available and where?? I have just removed one that has been broken for a long time and have drawn up a sketch to make one in Aluminum but thought it prudent to ask first as it may save time and a lot of fiddling around as the sizes do not really match any material available, so I will have a lot of filing etc to do.
They are the ones that operate at a 90 degree arc to go from closed to open. I have tried to Google them but so far no luck.
Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: Brad & Christine Slaughter on June 13, 2011, 04:58:47 pm
has anyone had to replace those plastic locks on the sliding windows, and if so are they available and where?? I have just removed one that has been broken for a long time and have drawn up a sketch to make one in Aluminum but thought it prudent to ask first as it may save time and a lot of fiddling around as the sizes do not really match any material available, so I will have a lot of filing etc to do.
They are the ones that operate at a 90 degree arc to go from closed to open. I have tried to Google them but so far no luck.
Thanks for any help.

That is what this thread was about.  Those little plastic twist locks for Creation windows (and maybe others?) $5 each (seems ridiculous, but what isn't these days) or $7 each...take your pick.
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: John Haygarth on June 13, 2011, 05:11:38 pm
sorry, as I had been away I must have missed it and I thought I had started a new topic but it went missing after posting. Makes me look dumb !!!
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: Michelle on June 13, 2011, 08:12:48 pm
sorry, as I had been away I must have missed it and I thought I had started a new topic but it went missing after posting. Makes me look dumb !!!

John,

We moderators apologize - a couple of us were involved in the chain of actions that moved your new topic from "Forum How-To's", which is about the forum operation, to "Tech Talk" and then merging it with this recent topic which we remembered.  We definitely didn't intend to make anyone look dumb  :-(

Michelle
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: John Haygarth on June 14, 2011, 11:54:33 am
Michelle- I was using that word in humour but appreciate your answer. I know you both only online, but know that you would not even consider trying to humiliate (or it to look that way) any one of us.
As I said "I am a newbie" but I feel like I have met and I respect every board member. This forum is amazing help to all and the knowledge base the members have is priceless. It has fast become my "Google" and I am searching the posts all the time for things to fix or change on my coach to improve it. So, thank you once again, you are both exceptional people for helping us all out with what you do. I include all in that comment. 
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: floridarandy on July 27, 2020, 02:52:14 pm
Just a quick update to this 9 year old thread.  Foretravel no longer has the Creation Window latch/lock arms in stock but you can still get them from:

Doug Parsons
ParKin Accessories Inc.
2920 Gateway Dr.
Elkhart, IN 46514
1-800-637-8938
RV Windshields, RV Windows, Shuttle Bus windows, (http://www.parkin-acc.com)

Part numbers are:
C5326020000 black
C5357540000 Red

Price is $5.81/latch plus shipping.

REMINDER:  As discussed in thread no hardware is included but Brad in Foretravel parts has the the nut/bolt hardware available (not the rivet).
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: Caflashbob on July 27, 2020, 02:57:47 pm
Good info.  Thanks
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: Rich Bowman on July 27, 2020, 03:22:07 pm
When I couldn't find one, I made one.  Aluminum bar stock from Lowes.  Hacksaw, file, drill, bent it in a vise with a hammer and then a little black spray paint.

Rich
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: oldguy on July 27, 2020, 06:42:13 pm
Thanks Rich it will probably simpler to make them then order them and they won't break. I have 5 to make.
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: oldguy on July 27, 2020, 06:43:26 pm
Thanks Rich I will make them. These won't break.
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: bbeane on July 27, 2020, 08:13:04 pm
I just did the old poker chip thing, depending on the thickness you may need to glue two together.
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: bbeane on July 27, 2020, 08:16:47 pm
Pictures
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: oldguy on July 29, 2020, 10:21:36 pm
Thanks again Rich. I made the first one today and have three more to make. I had 1/8 x 1 x 2 angle aluminum in the shop which
was perfect. A hack saw and a file and done.
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: craneman on July 29, 2020, 11:16:36 pm
Question, what makes them break? And will whatever breaks them be damaged by an unbreakable object?
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: stevec22 on July 30, 2020, 12:00:58 am
Question, what makes them break? And will whatever breaks them be damaged by an unbreakable object?

I have broken a few when the window was open and I pushed the latch to the locked position in order to close the blinds.  Then stupidly closed the window without adjusting the latch back to opened position.  Snap, there goes another one.
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: Chris m lang on July 30, 2020, 06:29:45 am
I have broken a few when the window was open and I pushed the latch to the locked position in order to close the blinds.  Then stupidly closed the window without adjusting the latch back to opened position.  Snap, there goes another one.

That is how I broke mine--I like the 1/8 angle idea
Chris
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: oldguy on July 30, 2020, 10:43:00 am
The locks on my rig were broken when I bought it, 4 of them were broken.
Title: Re: Creation Window locks
Post by: Tom Lang on July 30, 2020, 11:03:49 am
Over the years I've broken three. All by closing the window with the latch in the wrong position. Fortunately I was able to buy replacements back then.

This might be a good project for someone with a 3D printer.