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Title: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: Dick S on February 26, 2012, 02:53:16 pm
These are pretty nice visors and it has always bothered me that with every bump in the road they droop, droop, droop. If you have these, do you have this problem or better yet do you have a cure for this malady?
I talked to the manufacturer and they sent me new washers, which turned out to be plain stainless steel flat washers. They also could not give me a torque recommendation. I have tightened them until I'm afraid something will break.
Would a fiber, rubber, nylon, etc. washer provide enough friction to hold them and still let me adjust them?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: sam7 on February 26, 2012, 05:08:57 pm
We had that problem. With every bump in the road both visors would drop down some until we would push them back up. I found the cure, but it came at a price. I replaced the Konis all the way around, to improve the ride, and not only did we get a better ride but, the visors stay put now in their "rest" position. We had approximately 87K on the old Konis.
Title: Re: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on February 26, 2012, 05:26:50 pm
Like Sam7, I have the 36' 01,  Never had an issue with the sun visors, but in the end I had the electric single visor.  liked that so much I then had the blind over the steps replaced with an electric as I mostly travel alone, so now I have full control of the sun remotely.

Cheers
Dave M
Title: Re: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: Peter & Beth on February 26, 2012, 07:09:22 pm
These should be tightened using an allen wrench.

Peter
Title: Re: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: JohnFitz on February 26, 2012, 10:29:34 pm
You could try disassembling the joint and remove the grease on the mating surfaces and reassemble.  The joint comes apart when when the screw is removed completely.  The downside is if you tighten the joint enough so it stays up it might be too much resistance when you want to rotate it down - it can be difficult to find just the right spot.
Hopes this helps.  Please let us know how it goes.
Title: Re: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: John S on February 27, 2012, 07:06:40 am
Put in two electric shades on the front window.  Have not used the Rosen visors since.  The answer is to remove the screw bolt and clean and then retighten.  You might just try tighten first with an Allen wrench.
Title: Re: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: Patricia on February 27, 2012, 10:54:31 am
Put in two electric shades on the front window.  Have not used the Rosen visors since.  The answer is to remove the screw bolt and clean and then retighten.  You might just try tighten first with an Allen wrench.
We have both electric shades and the Rosen visors - and we use them both for different driving conditions.... sometimes together, or at different times.

One thing to consider is when you have photochromic (eg, "Transitions") eyeglass lenses.  While these are great outdoors, they need UV rays for the darkening process, and automotive glass blocks most UV.  Rather than wearing prescription sunglasses while driving, we use the Rosen visors - which act just like sunglasses, to reduce the glare.  The electric visors are nice to block that direct sun, and some of the glare, but they're just not enough.  So, it's either sunglasses or the Rosen visors.  We think the latter are very nice.

That being said, I will add that they are a bit "clunky" and awkward to manipulate while driving - either that, or we still haven't got the hang of smoothly pulling them into place, or putting them out of the way, while underway (of course, this from someone who is challenged by walking and chewing gum simultaneously :)) ).  And, yes, the Allen wrench is your friend!

As an aside...  I recently learned there is a product by Transitions which will darken behind windshield glass and vary with overcast to sunny conditions - something to consider at the next lens change!  ^.^d
Title: Re: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: Michelle on February 27, 2012, 11:27:42 am

As an aside...  I recently learned there is a product by Transitions which will darken behind windshield glass and vary with overcast to sunny conditions - something to consider at the next lens change!  ^.^d

Transitions Xtra Active?

Prescription Lenses for everyday eyewear | Transitions Lenses (http://en-us.transitions.com/en/experience/TransitionsXTRA.aspx)

Supposedly a moderate tint behind the wheel (and a residual light tint when not in the sun).  I'm debating them as well.  Not sure I like the residual tint, though.

The Rosen visors are rather difficult for us "vertically challenged" individuals to deploy while driving.  A reach for one is followed quickly by "you keep your eyes on the road, I'll get that" from the passenger seat.

-M
Title: Re: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: txforetravel on February 27, 2012, 12:04:42 pm
Hmm.  Your copilot says that? I get "Holy Crap", what are you doing?    Kidding aside, I do use our visors now and then, usually on I-40 headed west out of Memphis, as the sun is a killer and so is the road! 

Ours passenger side will stay in the correct position but the driver's side tends to droop in the stored position.  When it's in use, it does not droop at all.

Title: Re: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: Tom Lang on February 27, 2012, 12:05:54 pm
I have the Drivewear lenses, made by Transitions.  I recommend them

They are amber in color, so they help improve contrast on gloomy days.  They are polarized to improve contrast and reduce reflections on sunny days.  They darken with UV light, so they darken a lot outside.  They darken with visible light, so they darken slightly (but enough) when driving on bright days.

I have had mine for two years now.
Title: Re: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: Tom Lang on February 27, 2012, 12:09:22 pm
I too have trouble with the Rosen visors.  My solution is a combination of really good sunglasses (DriveWear) and a baseball cap.  The visor on the cap is easier to adjust than the Rosens.  Especially when the sun is sitting just above the highway straight ahead, too low to use the electric shades without completely blocking my vision.
Title: Re: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: Patricia on February 27, 2012, 12:50:38 pm
I have the Drivewear lenses, made by Transitions.  I recommend them.
Drivewear... yep, that's the lens I was referring to (not the XTRActive Transitions).

This site has a nice "demo" - though it would be interesting, Tom, to see if this is matches your experiences (unless, perhaps, they have improved the product over the last two years?):  DriveWear® Activated by Transitions® | Driving glasses lenses by Drivewear (http://www.framesdirect.com/include/information/lens_options_drivewear.aspx)
Title: Re: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: Peter & Beth on February 27, 2012, 12:57:19 pm
I have the Transitions lenses and they do not have residual tint. On the other hand, they do not get the "tint" unless the sun light is directly on them. So, when I wear a baseball cap or drive inside the car/coach, the "transition" does not take place.

Peter
Title: Re: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: Tom Lang on February 28, 2012, 12:25:59 pm
Drivewear... yep, that's the lens I was referring to (not the XTRActive Transitions).

This site has a nice "demo" - though it would be interesting, Tom, to see if this is matches your experiences (unless, perhaps, they have improved the product over the last two years?):  DriveWear® Activated by Transitions® | Driving glasses lenses by Drivewear (http://www.framesdirect.com/include/information/lens_options_drivewear.aspx)

Yes, those are the DriveWear lenses I use.  I wouldn't have anything else.  They have multiplle layers to give visible light darkening along with UV darkening and polarizing.  Very slight yellow tint indoors and at night, just a little darkening (but enough) while driving in the sun, pretty good darkening outdoors in the sun.

They are available as mono-vision lenses, as progressive lenses, and as bifocals, in both standard plastic and high-index(thin lenses) plastic.  Mine are standard index bifocals because the high index was only available in mono vision and progressives (which don't work for me).  I'm hoping bifocals will be available in high index sometime soon, at which time I'll buy another pair.
Title: Re: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: Patricia on February 28, 2012, 12:51:19 pm
Yes, those are the DriveWear lenses I use.  I wouldn't have anything else.
Thanks, Tom... Like you, I need high index (otherwise, I would need "Coke bottle bottom" glasses :)) ), but the progressives do work for me.  So, at my next appt in April I'll look into them then!
Title: Re: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: wa_desert_rat on February 28, 2012, 01:59:17 pm
After having cataracts and implant surgery 11 years ago I loved the freedom to buy and wear good sunglasses; every prescription sunglasses I tried were not as good - at least in my opinion - as good sunglasses. When flying I wear RayBan non-polarized (polarizing can create shadows on the canopy of a sailplane which can mask potential problems). When driving I like Serenghettis which also happen to go on sale every month at my local BIg5 store and I can leave a pair in every vehicle.

As far as bifocals are concerned, I've been surprised to discover that I no longer need them unless it's for very fine, close work (or my eyes are tired). After wearing bifocals for ten years, when I suddenly did not need glasses for distance viewing I bought some cheap Walmart reading glasses. My prescription was +3 but since most of my work is on a computer monitor I just bought +1.25 pair which worked well. Rather than buy stronger reading glasses I began to use the +1.25 lenses for all my reading as well as computer work. Before long I wasn't bothering to use any glasses for computer work and the +1.25s for reading. Now I can read a newspaper with no glasses at all; although small print with little contrast can be a struggle. I still use the +1.25s for my bedtime book reading but right now, for instance, I have no glasses within about 30 feet.

I have no real theory on this but I'm sure someone has. Maybe the focusing muscles in my eyes have strengthened. If I managed to somehow correct my poor eyes I'm just glad it happened.

Craig
Title: Re: Rosen sun visors droop
Post by: Keith and Joyce on February 28, 2012, 02:47:27 pm
I knew a chap who swore by some kind of eye exercise that involved focusing near then far over and over for several minutes a day, sort of push-ups for the eyes.  He claimed it cured his very poor sight.

Might try it and see if it works.

Keith