Foretravel Owners' Forum

As promised, here are some specific questions. We're focusing on U280 and above coaches from 1993 to 1997. I've been told that the 1997 is probably the best "bang for the buck" since all of the major improvements are present then. Newer coaches are just refinements. Using NADA prices as a guide, a '97 is about as new as it will be possible for us to go, and that will be a stretch.

Okay, here are the questions.

1. I understand that a U280 has a GW of 28,000 pounds, and a U300 has a GW of 30,000 pounds. I'm assuming that the U280 has a slightly lower empty weight than a U300, but that it probably isn't a 2000 pound difference. Does that mean that a U300 will have a somewhat greater carrying capacity than a U280?

2. From the information on Barry Beam's site, it looks like anything under a U300 has a propane generator, while U300 and above has a diesel generator. Was diesel an option for the U280 and U295 coaches?

3. NADA shows both Unihome and Unicoach for 1995 and 1996. For 1994 and 1993 they list Unihome and Grand Villa. Is what NADA calls the Grand Villa on the Oshkosh chassis and the Unihome on the Foretravel chassis?

4. For 1995 and 1996, is there any difference in specifications between the Unihome and Unicoach models? Obviously there is a difference in appearance, and I'm assuming in chassis. What about engine/transmission, generator, etc.?

That's enough questions for tonight. I'm sure that over the next few months I'll have many more. Again, thanks to all of you who are so willing to share your knowledge with me and willing to put up with all my questions.

The flat nose, bus type Unicoach was introduced in 1995. Prior to that they were all the Grand Villa style mid entry, slanted front. I believe that 1991 was the last Oshkosh chassis. If it is 1992 or later and listed as a Unihome, it should be the Foretravel Chassis. Foretravel Unihome chassis was available in a U225, U240 both with Torsialastic Suspension and 36 feet and the U280 and U300 with 8 air bag suspension and available in 36 or 40 feet.

The U225 and U240 were both 96" wide chassis and had shorter storage bays. The U280 and U300 from 1992 on had 102" wide chassis and taller storage bays. I believe the 1994 and newer U225 and U240's were also 102" wide. That extra 6" in width is hardly noticeable when driving but very noticeable in living space.

Kent. my 93 was Oshkosh with springs and the 5.9 cummins
John

That's a new one on me. Thanks for the clarification John. Was it called a Unihome?

here are some pics I just scanned of it.

That was a slick lookin coach, John. Its too bad you succumbed to the flat nose fad.

Here's everything you ever need to know about Foretravel specifications:
Foretravel Specifications, Floor Plans, Photos & Brochures by Year (https://wiki.foreforums.com/doku.php?id=through_the_years:specs)
Peter

Also, NADA does not always have their facts on all specs due to low volumes of a particular coach.  For instance, the 1997 model year does not show a U270 34 ft. coach...I have one.
Peter

Thanks, Peter. That's where I'm getting my information. Right now I've got 12 coaches on my chart, from a 1993 U280 to a 1997 U320. NADA puts the last one just slightly out of our budget. Basically, I centered on 1995 and went two years either side of that, taking coaches from a U280 as the lightest and up. I'm trying to narrow the list a bit. I have a suspicion that we'll probably end up in the 93-95 range, but who knows, it might happen that just at the time we're ready to really buy someone will put a 97 up that is just what we want, and they want it gone quickly. We know we're buying a used coach, and each owner has his own idea of what the coach is worth (or what he has to get out of it), so a 93 might be priced above a 97. We're not that far, yet, but that's where we're headed.

I know that NADA doesn't list every possible coach, especially the really low volume ones. It still gives a relative comparison, though.

David,

Our 1997 U295 is pretty much stock. GVWR is 30,000#. We weigh about 28,200# with food, supplies, people, dog, fuel, and water. We usually travel for only one to three weeks at a time.

The features we like in the 1997 model include diesel generator, double pane windows, solid cabinet doors (rather than tambour), ducted air conditioning, and pantograph hinges on most bay doors. The two propane furnaces have served our purposes well.

Foretravel Specifications, Floor Plans, Photos & Brochures by Year (https://wiki.foreforums.com/doku.php?id=through_the_years:specs)  is a great resource for comparison of features. We used information from there, MOT web site, MOT site visits, FOT web site, and information from Foreforums to guide our purchase.

We had the same 1997 U295 in our previous FT. Full-timed in it, too. It's "Joey Bed" went the full width. I prefer that to the two "half-widths" in our U-320. Lower cost maintenance than a U320 was nice.

Happy Hunting!

best, paul

Kent makes a good point as he refers to "that flat nose fad", be sure and compare the flat nose to the long nose, view wise.  It's like the difference between an Imax and a 8mm home movie.  Of course,being an Okie he may have different priorities than looking outside while driving,like not wanting to miss any action on the bug zapper hanging from the air conditioner vent or making sure his pack of coon hounds is behaving.  ;D

David,

As long as you stick with the '93 -'96 U-280 or U-300 in the Grandvilla Unihomes (yes there were a few Grandvillas made in '96, but only a handfull), they had the proprietary Foretravel chassis (not Oskosh). Most came with a diesel generator. I have seen very few U-280's with a propane generator. The U-300 came with a bigger engine (most often a 350 hp Detroit Diesel, or a CAT versus the Cummins C8.3 300 hp), so some of the increased carrying capacity was eaten up in engine and transmission weight. However, I would guess that one would probably gain close to 1500 lbs in carrying capacity. In '95 the Unicoaches began to be built; the U-270's came with the same C8.3 engine, though the horsepower was increased by 25 hp or so from year to year.

The term Grandvilla did not refer to chassis/suspension; simply the mid-entry, slanted front windshield, which was found in the U-225, U 240, U-280, and U-300. Unihome did refer to the semi-monocoque construction/chassis. The 8 airbag suspension was limited to the U-280's and U-300's in the Grandvillas in '92-95. U-240 had the Torsillastic suspension. Unicoach was the "bus" style, but still had the semi-monocoque construction.

Hope this helps.

J D , Careful, You may start a fight with your statement that you prefer the Solid cabinet doors.  One of the things I DON"T like about the later models is that.  I love the Tambour doors, they stay closed and never need adjusting nor do they need new struts. :)
Gary B

The DW and I are also in the comparison stage of a Foretravel purchase and have wondered about the difference in viewing between the 'flat nose' vs 'slanted nose' builds.  Should we assume the flat nose is preferable for traveling?  Is this the IMAX reference?

The flat front model has larger windshields and a better view out through them, including to the sides which helps to spot cars in that blind spot, that was the Imax reference.  There are those who say the long nose versions get better gas mileage and they have a classic look to them. 

I like the look of the Unihome and the mid entry. Its nice having the DW alongside me instead of slightly behind. Its not because I'm worried about being stabbed in the back... Its also quieter having the door that much farther away .:-)

That said, you get more effective room in the coach with the front entry layout, and more effective under storage IMO.

D'oh! I hope I don't get banned or moderated for stirring up trouble. :-[

We had tambour doors in a 1976 Airstream trailer. They were plastic slats on a fabric back. They tended to warp and not work smoothly. It could have been an operator problem. I don't recall complaints from anyone about the tambours in a FT.

'97 to '01 seems to be a sweet spot for our preferences. I think I would like some of the changes in new models, but have been very pleased with our current coach. It's interesting and informative to read about folk's preferences and experiences.

The tambour door differences seem to be the Foretravel doors are short height and vertical parts.  The Airstream are horizontal, and I can see where they could sag over time.  Have to say that every wood part, door, cabinets, joints, tambour doors works like new, after 18 years of service.

We've had a 1997 U295 and now have a 1999 U320.

They've certainly been a sweet spot for us. Of course, YMMV.

best, paul

We Okies like "Sittin Hi Up" in our Grand Villa. Its also safer being up there. I get sceered sittin low and seein what's cummin up close like in them silly flat noses. :D :D

You never have to replace the hydraulic closer on a tambour door. I consider them a better answer than door than the newer ones.

Dave, just so I'm clear on this, the Foretravel tambour doors slide left and right with the wood pieces being vertical. The Airstream tambour doors slide up and down, with the wood pieces being horizontal. Is that right?

Yes, the later models (Unicoaches) have a larger windshield.  Not sure the human eye can take in more field of vision than is afforded in the earlier models (Unihomes). This is particularly true if the front center-mounted TV has been removed as we did when we went to an LED TV stored up against the ceiling

And, those extra square yards of glass in the Unicoaches really heat up the interiors when driving toward the sun.  Same when parked.

So, there are definitely some of us who prefer the Unihome's smaller glass area.

All changes are NOT moves forward.  The first Unicoaches had a real hard time keeping the driver and front passenger cool enough with the large increase in frontal glass area.  It was only in later model Unicoaches that adequate ducting was run all the way forward to keep that area cool.

Correct.  And a signature custom feature on all earlier Foretravels.  But, they were very expensive to make, hence the move to one solid piece of wood for the doors.

Well, this isn't helping to narrow the search! <grin> Looks like the answers to my questions are:

1. Yes, a U300 will have a somewhat greater carrying capacity than a U280.

2. Apparently, although a propane-powered generator may have been standard, most buyers opted for a diesel-powered one. Since I prefer a diesel-powered generator, I will probably pass on any coach that has a propane-powered one unless otherwise it is an exceptional deal.

3. It looks like NADA may either have some wrong information, or the Oshkosh chassis lasted a bit longer (at least on paper) than I thought. At any rate, I should be able to tell the difference now.

4. No real answer yet.

Other points that have been raised and answered in this thread are the tambour doors (we prefer them), the cooling issue of the early Unicoach style (I prefer cooler temperatures to warmer ones), the height of the driver from the ground (Unihome drivers sit higher than Unicoach drivers), road noise (a mid-coach door will be somewhat quieter than a front door), the navigator sits closer to the driver in a Unihome, and a Unicoach makes somewhat better use of the space than a Unihome due to the layout differences.

So far I haven't read anything that would make me want to eliminate any of the 12 coaches on the list (93 and 94 U280 and U300, 95 U295C, U320, U320SE, 96 U295, and 97 U320).

Thanks for all the comments here. We'll digest this much and have more questions later.

Dave,

There is one more difference in the early ('95, '96 Unicoaches) that may or may not prove to be an issue. When we were considering moving "up" from our U-280 to a 295 or 320, Dave Robertson (owner of MOT) explained that the first year ('95) of the Unicoach, the front entry door was narrower (than in the Unihomes) and had no screen door. In '96 they added a half-screened door, but kept the width of the door the same. In '97 they widened (I think by 2 inches) the door and added basically the same sized screen door they have in newer coaches. So, you may want to figure this information into your equation, or it may not make any difference.

Dave Head has a '95 U-320, so he can chime in as to any effect(s), as can Chuck Pearson, as I think he has a '96 U-295.

Lack of a screen door on our 95 U320 was one reason DW MADE me buy our current 02. Hopefully, she is done with buying another Foretravel....Unless I find a 06-07 Phenix.

OK, here are some choices, which I made two years ago before I bought my 1996 U320, which may help you with your decision.
There is no absolutely perfect answer here, just my "shades of gray" opinions.

I boondock in isolated places for weeks or months, using solar panels ( 850 watts) and ruthless power management (all LED). I use genset power less then 20 hours/year, use A/C less then 10 hours/year, fire propane water heater for only 10 minutes each morning, and use furnaces less then 10 hours/year. I stay in full service RV parks for no more then 10 days/year, mostly for Motorcader events.

I live full time in my U320 for about 5.5 months each year (California). I live in my Victoria, BC, Canada house for 6.5 months of each year. If, when down south, the outside temperatures are too hot, I fire the Cummins M11 and move to a cooler location.

Generator:
I would prefer a 6KW propane generator over the 10KW diesel that I have because:
  1. Weight: Propane gensets are much lighter than diesel gensets.
  2. Exhaust: Propane exhaust is almost odorless, diesel exhaust is nauseating.
  3. Sound level: Propane engines run quieter than diesel engines.

Cabinets:
I love the tamboured cabinet doors, they say Foretravel even more than the wonderful Walnut cabinets and walnut wall panelling. Both tamboured doors and walnut wall panelling were discontinued after 1996.

Entry door:
I prefer the access of a mid-entry, however, a mid-entry 40ft U320 has no pantry which I love. The mid-entry 40ft Unihomes (all U280, all U300) or Unicoach (few U320, few U295) have reduced basement storage and less useable floor space then the front entry Unicoach.

Unihome vs Unicoach:
I do not care for the raised sitting position of the driver and passenger seats in the Unihome. I had that in my SOB gas 32ft motorhome for 10 years. I prefer the level floor of the Unicoach because the driver and passenger seats become a part of the "living room" when rotated. I also prefer the panoramic front window of the Unicoach when parked and use an ouside see-through window cover to reduce the heating caused by the sun. It can be uncomfortably hot when driving, so if too hot, I run the generator and roof A/C's or wait for a cooler day. 
I also prefer the modern bus look of the Unicoach. People say that my 1996 Unicoach looks like a 2005 or newer motorhome.

Engine:
I wanted a large, powerful, modern "4 stroke" diesel. This includes the Cummins M11 (U320) and Cat 3176 (few U320's or U300's). I did consider Cummins 8.3 (U295) but did not want old technology two stroke DD 6V92 (U300) or smaller Cat engines (3116, 3126). I enjoy climbing steep hills at 50mph while passing most other motorhomes. The reduced cost for diesel which can be obtained with a smaller engine is not significant to me, however, the reduced hill climbing ability is.

Retarder:
This is attached to the Alison automatic transmission, not to the engine like Jake or PAC devices.  The brake horsepower produced cannot be matched by any engine brake. I very seldom need service brakes when descending steep hills. 

Aquahot:
I prefer the propane furnaces, propane hot water tank, and 120vAC engine heater that my coach has and would not purchase a coach with Aquahot because it is a high maintenance item, produces same type of exhaust and noise as a generator, adds considerable weight to the coach, and requires considerable time to produce hot water when fired cold.

Aquahot was optional in 95 & 96 U320's and became included in 97 and newer U320's. Most 95 & 96 U320's and all 97 and newer U320's have Aquahot. Very few U295's have Aquahot. Unlike me, most Foretravel owners prefer the Aquahot diesel boiler for hot water, interior heating, and engine preheat because it uses diesel to produce the heat rather then propane, it provides endless hot water, and it keeps the interior comfortable with even heat. 

I purchased the 1996 U320 I have because of the tamboured doors, walnut panelling, NO Aquahot, M11, retarder, solid tight bulheads, and painted outside stripes (vinyl decals tend to have a short life).
I purchased from MOT in April of 2010 because the price was right and a dealer must by law assure "NO liens" (I exported it to Canada).

I hope some of this information helps you in your quest - it can feel overwhelming at times.

What a great description of your coach, modes of use, and preferences!

If you are tall the 99 and maybe 98 years the counter tops cam up to residential height of 36" and I think the earlier models where 34". Not a big change but a good one for me.

Good points this afternoon! Thank you. We didn't pay any attention to the counter heights when we were at MOT, so the next time we'll have to make note of that.

Wyatt, we aren't hard-core boondockers, but we do want the ability to do so on occasion. Sounds like it is possible that we will run into a coach with Aqua Hot, but probably not likely. I know they can be expensive to repair and require annual maintenance, but then most things do require maintenance. We're still debating the Unihome style versus the Unicoach style. At this point we can't really point to any major advantage to either over the other.

I have a suspicion that when it comes to time to buy, the price will have more to do with our decision than anything else. At this point I don't see anything that would make me want to remove any of the possible coaches from our list. In fact, we haven't even decided whether we prefer a 36' or a 40' coach. We're also talking about whether a washer/drier is something that we want. Most likely, that won't be a make-or-break issue. If the coach we like has one, we'll take it. If not, we will still take the coach.

To me, the tambour doors epitomize the Foretravel Quality. They are so well finished they look like a solid piece of wood. Can you tell I am a real fan of the vintage Grand Villas?

Tambour stopped with the 1996 model year, except for maybe 6 coaches that were built with a newer style of tambour, according to David Flannigan (?).  He explained the supplier of the tambour used for years stopped production.  The available other stuff was a series of wood beveled strips mounted on the fabric and did not present as a solid piece of wood like all the tambour before.  The very few coaches were built, and then solid doors became the norm.

As to higher seating in the Unicoach, we also find we can not see out the windshield when traveling or parked from any of the living room seating area.  This matters when the coach is parked with a potential view thru the front windshield.  This is not much of a problem in a back in site when you might want more privacy.  We use a look thru windshield cover when parked, and have just added the front and all the other window tint, and now have total privacy during the day and the night till we turn on an interior light.

With the mid door, my wife and the puppy love the "nest" of the passenger foot area.  We have a great dog bed, slippers, computer inverter, maps and travel guides, and purse all stored in that area.  If we had a forward door, then that area is the pass thru walking area whenever we stop and exit the coach as the floor step cover slides away.  As we don't wear shoes much in the coach we love leaving the shoes in the mid door step area as well.

Amazing thread.  Took my 97 320 to the shop today to replace the governor on the air chassis and a 1988 unihome I sold new was in there. Talk about déjà vu.

Had not thought about the flat floor.  Duh... 

My 320 does have a small row of adjustable height drawers next to the dinette.

The rocket ship proto unihomes tambour doors would slide open under power. 

Tambour doors rubber backing will need replacing some day.  Is it available?

I am the opposite on the propane versus aquahot.  The temp in the coach would go up and down in major swings.  Too hot, too cold, too hot.  Burner shuts off fan keeps blowing as the overheat limiter keeps it on.  Noisy.  Higher fuel consumption. 

Aqua hot seems to run less fuel and the three zones and heated bays are a plus.  Especially to have a seperate thermostat in the bath.  DW likes that a lot.  System capacity for extreme cold seems higher than dual propane furnaces. 

After 100k miles in grand villas long ago we both commented on the IMAX view.  Wrap around.  DW is a photo girl and was really happier with the unicoaches increased visibility.

Propane gens are flathead motors.  Valves in block. Inherently inefficient.  1 gallon per hour.  Diesel .4 gallons per hour.

I am really happy and paid extra for my center entry.  Has more storage underneath than I probably will use but the front area being the same on the drivers and passenger side and the flat floor is a different experience for us.  We REALLY like the 97 u320

Terrible turning radius. No tag.  With a tag the coach turns on the front six tires.  Better storage without the tag....

Parallel storage doors.  Fantastic.  Versus squating under slanted doors...

Dual pane windows.  Another big plus.  Quieter.  Less furnace and ac time.  Same with the white gel coat in the sun.  Less ac time by far.

Xtarder is the bomb.  Not sure what year it started but I noticed the 88 had the tires to the edge of the body on a 96 inch coach.  My 97 102 is the same.  Not sure when that started.  Less body roll.

Yes the PTL  door with a real heavily made screen door is another big plus.

Agree on the front heating driving into the sun with a unicoach in the summer.  Definitely warmer.  If you have to drive west in the hot summer weather it's Definitately warmer.

Old marquis customers used to pull off interstate 40 and such by 2 o'clock in the afternoon and head north or south to an Rv park and finish the next day.  Remember one telling me that coming back from shawnee on the cb..

I had a customer put her head in an walnut interior foretravel and shake her head and start to back out of the coach. Had a lot of that btw.  I asked her what was wrong? Knowing the answer but I thought I would ask her. "too dark". Yea so? It's beautiful.  Yes she said but this was obviously built in a sun belt state.  Huh?  What does mean?  She turned out to be a psychologist and the more hours of daylight in the lower tiers of states compensated for the dark walls....she also mentioned that the Oregon builders had light walls and wood to help compensate for the less hours of daylight.  I was astounded.  way too easy...

Without telling too many tales out of school in the original days Marie picked out the fabrics and wood colors.  She was also on medication......true story? Finally had Mc Cathy do the fabric boards and things got prettier.

I did not even notice why my 97 felt so different.  Until now.  No wood walls. Flat floors .  Kept looking around.  Could not figure it out.  Duh...

And like I told the customers back then the walnut lightens beautifully in use. 

I did one unihome for a dr and foretravel hated me as I had dr unsells coach high gloss verathaned.  Foretravel charged me 5k to do it and said not to do it again.

Wood grain looked a foot deep. Dr was speechless when he saw it. 

Love the intermediate years but step up as far as possible financially. 

It's only money.  As long as its yours....haha.

Bob

bought the one I have after the 93 GV that was great but I wanted all the extra things it did not have. This has all we need for comfortable tavelling and now I have done the changes most of you know about we can go anywhere and enjoy it. I decided on this coach because the price was right(about 60% of true market value at the time) so that gave lots of room for the upgrades!!
If something is not exactly what I want in a coach, I get used to it. Life is like that.
John H

Funny how people are. The DW and I both love the walnut walls but the lighter ceiling and the white rug (which we plan to change - probably to cork flooring) tend to moderate the darkness a bit. Plus the big windows help; is it my imagination or are the windows on a FT larger than those on other coaches? I know that units with slides seem to have smaller windows.

We also love the tambour cabinet doors.

But we do know that some (maybe most) people like a lighter interior. I just like living inside a beautiful piece of furniture!

Craig

To Quote Craig: "I just like living inside a beautiful piece of furniture!"

Very well put and AMEN!

"But we do know that some (maybe most) people like a lighter interior."

Although we haven't been in a lot of either 'Birds or Foretravels, Jo Ann has commented that the Foretravels seem lighter and more spacious than the 'Birds. To be fair, we've only been in four 'Birds, two of which were FC models. For those who don't know 'Bird-speak, the FC (Forward Control) is basically the flat-face school bus body. Ceiling height is a problem for her on those. A 1994 BMC (Bluebird Motor Coach) appealed to her somewhat. The 1988 WB40 (Wide Body 40') had no electricity in it and was parked in a bus barn at the time we saw it, so it was quite dark.

We saw a U240 a couple of months ago. It, too, was in the barn, but it had electricity to it, so was plenty light. All of the coaches we saw at FOT and MOT were plugged in, so were well lighted.

On our trip to and from Branson today we talked about the lighting in the coaches. We wondered about whether the side windows in the 'Birds might not be as large as the corresponding windows in the Foretravels. That would certainly account for a difference in brightness inside. Just going from pictures, it would seem that the Unicoach Foretravels have a larger windshield than 'Birds do, although I think the Unihome windshields might be a bit smaller. When we get farther along in the decision process it probably would be worth it to ask for some actual measurements.

I remember showing foretravels with all the lights on.  In the daytime

I managed to become a merchant marine officer just at the cusp of the change between the old and the new and sailed on some ships built in the 1950s. The officer's quarters and mess were all dark wood paneling which I thought was soothing after coming off watch during nasty weather.

Our stix-n-brix was, at one time, my "lake cabin" and the living room has two walls paneled by barn boards with artwork depicting ferries, sailboats and other nautical scenes. The DW is always threatening to tear down the barn boards and use a lighter wall color. So far I have resisted.

Although the DW likes our Foretravel it's likely that she generally prefers something lighter; and I would be willing to bet that's why Flash showed coaches with the lights on.

So.... are Foretravels - especially those from an era with walnut paneling as well as cupboards - more of a "man's" coach?

Craig

Foretravel must have made an attempt at lightening up coaches in the early 90's.  We have what I think is a very unusual interior finish called "pickled walnut" - I think there are only 3 in existence.  It also has light colored wallpaper on the walls covering the walnut paneling.  When we were looking my wife liked the quality of the FT's we saw but was a little put off with the dark wood.  When we saw this one, that was it.  I believe our coach was a motorcade coach for a while that they designed up with their latest styling and took to motorcade events to get opinions on.  Our "chair table" has a Corian top where all the other coaches of our year usually have an all wood look and we have full window boxes which also seems unusual for our year.  So foretravel did try to do lighter but like the GV320 it just didn't seem to take for those who were actually buying - too bad because it seems like it's something people want.

John... just when we think we have figured it out someone throws another curve into the mix. Very cool coach! Thanks for posting the pictures. :)

Craig

Wow you guys keep coming up with stuff to try my memories.  Whitewash but what?  Pecan?

I built a side hall u280 40 in 89 for Cleo Dunlap in pecan.  Is he still in the ca chapter?  And lavone johns?

Thought the hallway was on the passenger side?

Flash... now that you mention it, the only side-hallway I've ever seen was an '89 U300 and that was on the passenger side. Interesting stuff. I'll bet that it does tickle your memory muscles. :)

Craig

John,
Thanks for sharing the photos and info. Nice looking too. 

  No, it's walnut.  White stain wiped off right away with a clear polyrethane on top.

I think it didn't take off because people might think it was too faddish and would be difficult to resell - just my guess.
But you can't say Foretravel didn't try something light colored.  I guess the light wallpaper did take a few years later. 

They DID build pecan interior coaches-- I have seen several, including a friend's 1994 U240.  They have not been pickled.

And, yes Cleo and Atna are still Foretraveling and continue to be very active within the Foretravel community. Saw them a couple of weeks ago in Nacogdoches when I was up doing a mechanical inspection on a 320.

My 93 U280 was pecan... Gorgeous interior. The lightness go oak without the heavy grain.

You old junk guys need me around just for the memories.  Actually I am a better 80's and some 70's guy. 

Hardly see any of the new owners here?

Or just riding and rejoicing?

Bob

Encore has a 1993 U280 40', Grand Villa, pecan interior listed for sale with some upgrades. Nice lighter interior for those that are looking for a walk thru bath floor plan.