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Title: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on August 04, 2012, 02:08:52 pm
Today, I got out the Pressure Pro update kit, using 6 new inserts along with the tool (Tool is a Great Neck Nut Driver, 6MM with the socket removed and turned on a lathe for desired diameter) Inserted the 6 new seals, and after double checking my tire pressure at 110 front and 105 rear, installed the sensors. Will report as to holding air pressure works out. Crossed my pinkeys. Dave M
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Michelle on August 04, 2012, 02:48:23 pm
Dave,
We have one sensor on the coach that Steve had to work on the seal; it has held now for over a month (one of the tag sensors, so 75 psi).
One on the car has a slow leak, about 3 psi/week. That's next to do for a new seal. Pinkies crossed for both of us.
We also had the 12V power cord short out on us after less than a month. Had to send the old one back at our cost to get a replacement.
Michelle
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on August 04, 2012, 03:07:18 pm
Just for info if wanted, the "Tool" was a 6MM Nut Driver end socket cut off, machined down to .260 OD and center hole is .155 ID For power cord, I use my old Motorola cell phone charge cord, mini USB to cigarette lighter socket. Hope one day to find / get 12 VDC in overhead and paste the PP up there somewhere. Using on dash is not the best place to receive signals from rear even on a 36' fiberglass coach. Hope I do not need the repeater, but that may not be needed if this mess keeps leaking, the dumpster will have an addition. Dave M
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on August 04, 2012, 03:46:14 pm
Just as suspected, of the six, four are holding after three hours, two are not, Just wonderful. not going to touch anything just yet, give it a few more hours to see if the tire falls off the rim. They all held air very nice for months, right up until the PP were screwed on with the new wonderful seals. Did notice the last seals did not fit like the first ones that seemed to fit more snuggley. Last ones fit like the the origional, slopy loose. Dave M
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Don Hay on August 04, 2012, 05:03:32 pm
Dave,
Did you use Teflon tape on the valve stems?
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: wolfe10 on August 04, 2012, 05:05:58 pm
Dave,
I also have the PressurePro and have had zero leaks. Wonder if yours are under/over torqued so that the O ring is not seating of being deformed?
I put mine on light finger tight. Used soap solution to check for leaks and tightened just a little more if it was "blowing bubbles".
Brett
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: qcj on August 04, 2012, 05:32:43 pm
I have had pressure pro on two different coaches and never had any problems. Chappell
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Wattalife54 on August 04, 2012, 06:00:04 pm
I've had Pressure Pro for 3-1/2 years, no leaking problems. Had one separate at the case weld when tighting. They replaced it, no questions asked. The rubber gasket sealing system is extremely simple. If I had a number of leaking problems I would strongly suspect faulty stem/valve arrangement or improper installation.
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on August 04, 2012, 06:06:42 pm
I am tickeled to pieces that everyone is so excited and pleased with the PP setup, I think I have solved or atleaset recduced the amount of leakage on one of the two leakers, but the other is still the same, leaks 15psi in under 2 hours, I am going to try a new seal. Dave M
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on August 04, 2012, 06:12:31 pm
OK, New seal, very nicely centered, screwed on very softly but almost firmly, 106psi at 1805 local. I need to hire a local idiot to preform this magic task as I clearly am too stupid to screw on this sensor as PP bright bulbs keep telling me. Dave M
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on August 04, 2012, 07:04:56 pm
A nervous IT IS HOLDING after an hour, did install new seal, that seems to have solved it, not saying it is done, but by tomorrow I should have a better idea of yea or nay. Not convienced thes PP devices are worth the P I T A this one has became. Next put the 4 on the toad. The toad will have to wait until I feel better about this crap. Dave M
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: John S on August 04, 2012, 08:50:14 pm
I do not use them. I think they are just a problem waiting to happen. Weight on the end of the stem spinning around.
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Bill Willett on August 04, 2012, 09:27:44 pm
Dave, your Marine Corp tolerance is beginning to show. :))
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on August 04, 2012, 09:45:23 pm
Bill, you might be right on that one. However after a few hours, neither of the leakers have lost any pressure according to the PP read out, all 4 drive axle tires holding at 105 psi, fronts at 110 psi, now in the morning maybe all will be flat, it so, they are coming off and I surrender. Mo later Dave M
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: John S on August 04, 2012, 09:49:16 pm
then take it for a drive and see it holds after a short run down the road
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Tony Pasquale on August 04, 2012, 09:53:20 pm
I do not use them, I even had the PP page added to my CL 240 but between trying to set up the page on the Slverleaf and hearing about the problems I just thought it better to monitor the tire pressures ever day before departure and while traveling.
Tony
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Barry & Cindy on August 05, 2012, 01:37:20 am
Tire pressure monitors can help prevent a tow-car from be badly damaged or totaled, if a tire loses air while being pulled down the road. Tires have been known to go flat without any awareness of motorhome driver. And prolonged dragging down the road can cause major damage or fire. A powerful motorhome pulling a lightweight tow car may not drive differently with the increased drag.
But we would hope a passing car would let us know we have a problem back there, that is if the passing car can catch up and pass our fast moving motorhomes.
Pressure Pro sensors only seal to the top of the valve stem against the inside red or black rubber insert. They cannot seal on the straight threads of the valve stem, but Teflon tape or anti-seize will insure that the Pressure Pro sensor will easily come off the valve stem.
A good seal will be compromised if the valve core is too long and sticks up too far preventing the sensor from screwing down far enough to seal against the rubber. And if the valve core is too short, the Pressure Pro rubber insert will not press down on the valve core and there will not be a pressure reading.
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: John S on August 05, 2012, 09:19:14 am
I believe you can not protect against everything and there have been way too many issues with PP causing leaks. So, I check my tires. I put on aggressive off road tires on the jeep as well. They are made for mud and rocks so that the likely hood of them going flat is less but I know it can happen. I usually stop every two hours and walk around the coach and tow and as a side benefit the bigger tires on the jeep can be seen from the camera I have up front. Life is not immune from risk. We try to eliminate as much as we can. I think that if I ever got a PP type system it would be internally mounted as they do in the new cars since 08. In fact that is federal law now so why are we still sticking them on the valve stem when the Auto guys have them inside the tire. I am sure there has to be a way to get them mounted inside on a motorhome.
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Michelle on August 05, 2012, 09:25:10 am
I think that if I ever got a PP type system it would be internally mounted as they do in the new cars since 08. In fact that is federal law now so why are we still sticking them on the valve stem when the Auto guys have them inside the tire. I am sure there has to be a way to get them mounted inside on a motorhome.
TST systems now has that style. $79 apiece. Scroll down the following page
tst systems (http://www.tsttruck.com/Product_List.html)
Michelle
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Chuck Pearson on August 05, 2012, 10:19:48 am
I wonder why there are not alternatives to the valve stem type sensors, either internal or external. No ultrasonic type external monitors that would measure rigidity of tire? Is it possible to use external type sensors on a Crossfire system? That might be a way to avoid problems with mounting weights on end of valve stems.
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: wa_desert_rat on August 05, 2012, 10:30:04 am
I wonder why there are not alternatives to the valve stem type sensors, either internal or external. No ultrasonic type external monitors that would measure rigidity of tire? Is it possible to use external type sensors on a Crossfire system? That might be a way to avoid problems with mounting weights on end of valve stems.
I have Crossfire on my U225 and have been wondering whether a TPS system will work on it. The Crossfire equalizes pressure across two drive tires and if one blows out it will (he says, confidently) keep the other tire from losing pressure. But it's bound to lose some and a TPS system would detect that.
Craig
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave Head on August 05, 2012, 11:57:33 am
Between the new flow through and internal sensors it looks like I will be buying TST again. My old system has bad sensors, seals and worn out batteries and I planned on replacing it anyway. My biggest problem has always been having to remove them to add air. That's when they get damaged or leaks - especially with the anti theft design. My only nit pick is the display should offer RV and 5ver display options aside from a semi...
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on August 05, 2012, 04:47:50 pm
OK, nearly 24 hrs since installed the 6 on coach, fronts hold exact fine, rear after replacing a new seal , so far they are holding 103-104 out of 105 target, will give a longer time to see how it goes. This AM, I also installed the 4 on the F150, and they are holding after 6 hours. Sure not a warm fuzzy connected with these poorly engineered wannabee pressure sensors. I expect they will leak steady a pound or so a day, if so, they will be a bad dream and disapear. Delighted that some owners are having the wonderful luck with them, I aint. Like others, maybe a model for inside the tire bead will appear that works and does not LEAK. Dave M
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Don Hay on August 05, 2012, 06:50:04 pm
Dave M. said "I expect they will leak steady a pound or so a day, if so, they will be a bad dream and disapear."
Dave,
You are a pessimist. That pound difference could very well be due to a change in ambient temperature.
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: J. D. Stevens on August 05, 2012, 07:11:12 pm
Dave,
Give them a few days and consider the ambient temperatures. Stuff I have read indicates that pressure will change about 1 psi/10 degree F. Sunshine or shade on a tire makes a big difference.
I tried a brand new TST TPMS system on our first coach. It detected problems on two tires. Unfortunately, it probably caused the problems as well by working the stems until the grommets leaked. Sensors also quit working properly in subfreezing temperatures. Benjie now has my old TST system. He replaced a bunch of sensors. He may report how it has worked for him.
Our current coach came with Pressure Pro. A sensor on the toad deflated a tire on the toad twice during the days we inspected the coach. One of the brand new tires installed by Herman Power Tire Company went flat before we picked up the coach. I removed the PP and threw it in a box.
I check each tire before we begin a trip. I thump the tires and/or check with an IR thermometer every 1 1/2 to 6 hours while traveling. I generally need to add air before a trip when the temperature drops in the fall or when we travel far north in order to meet the appropriate cold tire pressures for our weight. We take some risk without TPMS, but our manual system has worked fairly well for many professional drivers for a long time.
Other folk have been very pleased with TPMS. Use whatever keeps your tires and your "comfort bag" properly filled.
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on August 05, 2012, 07:18:15 pm
Hi Don, Your most likely right, but for me these things are more trouble than worth I feel. Agree on temp change does change the actual psi, why I am going to leave them alone for a week or so, and then decide if a go/nogo. Am headed to HWH and Custer SD next weekend, so I will have little joy playing psi games with goofy PP jokes. Trust all is well, my artery / bypass is still a joy. ;D Thanks Dave M
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Michelle on August 07, 2012, 11:11:31 am
Dave, your Marine Corp tolerance is beginning to show. :))
Hmm... neither Steve nor I were in the Corps, but our tolerance isn't much different than Dave's on this one ;) It took several tries to get one of the coach sensors to finally seal; we still have not solved one on the car. Not a terribly robust design.
So far our initial impressions over the 2 months of ownership are that it's a high-end tire gauge that excels at letting you know when it's released enough air from one or more tires that you need to break out the compressor ::) Had the TST internal sensors been readily available when we put tires on this spring, I do believe we would have gone that route instead. We almost bought one of the TST external sensor systems, but went with PP instead because of the lighter sensor weight. Next tire time it will likely be a different story.
Michelle
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on August 07, 2012, 02:15:19 pm
Have not looked at my display in two days, now scared to plug it into the power and fire it up and hear the chirping, if it chirps, it is a goner. I do not tolorate junk nor bad designed crap. IF this thing give any more issues, yup, goner it is. NO JOY with it, maybe someone is dying to have it at a reduced price ? 10 sensors 1.5 yr old, been removed for 8 months prior to this last gasp. Dave M
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dean & Dee on August 07, 2012, 02:48:31 pm
We purchased a Hawkshead System 2 years ago for our previous motorhome. Moved it to this one and have only had a couple false alarm sensor issues, none of which was on the toad which is what we really wanted to monitor in the first place. Never had any loss of tire pressure from it.
It has replacable batteries and the sensors are some of the lightest in the industry. (or were at the time we bought it). But, if I were looking today I would strongly consider TST.
D&D
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Barry & Cindy on August 07, 2012, 09:06:55 pm
We do not unplug our tire pressure monitor display. We keep it powered all the time so we can be aware of tire problems or have an instant alarm if someone unscrews a sensor.
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on August 10, 2012, 03:49:38 pm
ACID Test today, I have new seals, all tires appear to be holding air (so far), had to replace 1 on the toad RF, now appears to be holding, so I will hook up toad with the ATV and aim westerly this PM. Feel the need for the CO2 bottle just inncase the alarm goes off. If so, chances are very slim the PP will be active on coach and toad when I get home. Barry, agree on keep it fired up, good alarm if one is removed of leads down. Very little faith in these (poorly engineered) PP devices. You would think a engineer would not have such a problem designing a leak proof sensor ? Cheers Dave M
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Tom Lang on August 10, 2012, 11:58:36 pm
I bought a used (probably just sitting in the box for years) PP set a couple of months ago. I sent the senders to PP for replacements since the old batteries were long gone. The new units have red seals in them, the old ones were black. The FT has been just sitting unused for a month, and all tire pressures were holding fine until this week, when one of the tires dropped 10psi. I guess I'll top off the air and retest.
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Michelle on August 11, 2012, 08:03:05 am
I bought a used (probably just sitting in the box for years) PP set a couple of months ago. I sent the senders to PP for replacements since the old batteries were long gone. The new units have red seals in them, the old ones were black.
Interesting - we just got a packet of replacement seals direct from PP a little over a week ago and they are all black. Replacing the seal on our leaking toad sensor didn't solve the problem, either.
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: John S on August 11, 2012, 08:54:14 am
It seems that more than 50% of the posters have an issue with the pressure pros. I know some of you swear by them but to me, I think they are a accident waiting to happen. I have put on 300K miles and have not used one. I have over a million miles on my various trucks over the years and do not have it on there either. I have heard, you can not see your toad tires and you do not want a blow out. Surely, I do not want any tire to go down but I look them over every stop I make. I make sure they are full when I leave on a trip. I guess I am willing to risk the road hazard and not add an extra one. I think that the proper type is going to be inside the tire not on the stem. This has been an interesting discussion to follow though and one which has cemented my decision not to use them.
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: George Hatfield on August 11, 2012, 09:58:44 am
As I have posted in the past, we have used PP for about 6 years on both our FT and the Airstream travel trailer we owned. I have only had one sensor that leaked. I now have 10 sensors running between our FT and the toad. No problems. Could it be that there is something else going on? For example, could the valve stems be different in some way that can lead to leaks?
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Paul Smith on August 11, 2012, 10:00:03 am
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It seems that more than 50% of the posters have an issue with the pressure pros.
Well, Duh! ;o)
Folks like me, who have used PP for years now and have had no problem with them don't have a complaint to post about. (Somehow, this strangely seems to me to be the corollary to, "It's always in the last place you look." Of course! Why would you continue to look once you found it? A recent New Yorker cartoon about those searching for the Higgs boson had "It's always in the last place you look." as its caption ;o)
I recently thought I had a problem with 1 of my 6 PP's. But it turns out the problem was the valve stem was "short" for some reason and the PP did not depress it and consequently could not read the tire pressure.
The real mystery to me is, "Why do some folks have problems and others do not." Something is obviously going on. And I have removed my PP's and aired up, etc, and put them back on. I don't think it's any special skill I have. Strange....
The valve stem has two possible leak points: at its connection to the rim and to its PP. I wonder if any pressure losses attributed to PP are actually losses at the rim leak point.
But, based on the problems others have had, at stops I do my due diligence and take my trusty tire bat out from behind my seat and bang on tires. That might be all we need for steering tires.
In addition, I rarely drive faster than 62 mph.
best, paul
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Tim Fiedler on August 11, 2012, 10:11:27 am
Had a steer tire on toad blow at night At 70 mph behind my old 89 GV. Bad camera, no clue what was going on till some one pulled alongside and flagged me down. Might of helped, might not. Rim was still good, got two new front tires, still never. BOught PP.
My conclusion, not worth cost and aggravation, one event in 7 years.
Your mileage may vary...........
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on August 11, 2012, 10:16:08 am
Paul, A great point, Have to mention my PP worked well on the toad for a year, then the LF started leaking for no appearant reason. As for the coach, the front tires seemed to not have an issue, the drive axle, all four have had issues since new. The brillant part, remove the PP and no more leaks, checked for seating of the core's, talked to PP, they informed me that I was clearly too stupid to install the sensors. The most amazing part, after buying the "tool" and 10 new black seals, after redoing all 6 on coach, no problem "YET", as for the toad, the LF needed two different seals to stop its leaking, Clearly due to my being too stupid to do it right. Now am in Pa, headed to Black Hills, SD, and so far so good. Many variables, but I still feel PP has their collective head so far up their butt, they feel many of us users are just too stupid, instead of wondering about their QC or design issue. OF course this is my opinion nearly alone I assume. Ever wonder why they changed from the black seal to the red seal ? Maybe the head was retracted a lil bit ? Dave M
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Paul Smith on August 11, 2012, 10:29:51 am
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As for the coach, the front tires seemed to not have an issue, the drive axle, all four have had issues since new. The brillant part, remove the PP and no more leaks, checked for seating of the core's, talked to PP, they informed me that I was clearly too stupid to install the sensors. The most amazing part, after buying the "tool" and 10 new black seals, after redoing all 6 on coach, no problem "YET", as for the toad, the LF needed two different seals to stop its leaking, Clearly due to my being too stupid to do it right.
So you installed 9 out of 10 and had no problem with them. And fixed the 1 with new seals.
PP telling you you are too stupid is obviously over the top. I'll have to reconsider being their customer in future.
This happened to me recently when I tried to reserve a site at an RV Park I'd stayed at before. I called two different numbers I found on the web. Both were out of service. I thought they were out of business. I stopped in as I later passed and told the owner of my experience. He said I didn't wait long enough for the call to transfer!
best, paul
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: J. D. Stevens on August 11, 2012, 10:29:56 am
... The valve stem has two possible leak points: at its connection to the rim and to its PP. I wonder if any pressure losses attributed to PP are actually losses at the rim leak point. ...
Two of the failures we had when we used TST TPMS were failures at the grommet where the stem attached to the wheel. I think the added weight of the sensor caused the stem to move enough to cause leaks at the grommet.
We had a steer tire that would lose a bit of pressure as we drove. It would hold air while parked. We had a drive tire that when completely flat in short period of time. I discovered it before any obvious damage was done. In both cases, the flats were fixed by replacing the stem grommets. No other damages or punctures were found.
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on August 13, 2012, 09:53:18 am
Would you beleive, I am at a Cracker Barrel in Champain Il. and the PP are still working as advertized, guess I need to kiss all 10 tires for continued luck. Still no warm fuzzies yet, just nerves shaking. Dave M
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: John S on August 13, 2012, 10:02:14 am
That is great Dave. Hope they continue to work. I am sitting in CDL, ID and the heat is on. Last week it was cool this week in the 90s....should be moving over you soon.
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Roland Begin on August 13, 2012, 01:36:46 pm
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Is it possible to use external type sensors on a Crossfire system? That might be a way to avoid problems with mounting weights on end of valve stems.
I have the crossfire system but am having a problem with the PP sensor not holding the air. Both tires go almost flat overnight. OK on one set of dualies not good on the other side. Haven't resolved the issue as yet as I have bigger fish to fry, ie. front bulkhead repair not complete yet.
Roland
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on August 13, 2012, 05:12:08 pm
Roland, I can say with experience, that a new seal did not cure one issue, but the second new seal did, so my opinion is, all seals are not created equal. Of course it can be blamed on hundreds of items too.
For me, I am hooked up at HWH, Moscow, Ia, was scheduled for Wed & Thurs, but they are slow and will get me in the shop in the AM (Tuesday) so happy!.
Met a couple here at HWH with a 42' Mandaly single axle, couple non HWH slides and hydraulic levelers, the levelers is why they are here.
Still the PP units are still quiet, all 10 sensors do not have 100% communication all the time, but guess enough to satisfy its brain. Best location for me is sitting on drivers glass window frame, clamped on with the Nuvi mounted on same window, just luck, seems the best location.
If this keeps up, I might get into Custer early.
One little comment, my Blue OX Keyed pins (On toad hitch) were in need of a pry bar to get one off, the key turned fine, felt good, just would not come off the pin without help from a large screwdriver. I used WD-40 washed them out and cleaned up nice. Hope that is all that is needed.
Dave M
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Roland Begin on August 14, 2012, 08:33:40 am
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Ever wonder why they changed from the black seal to the red seal ? Maybe the head was retracted a lil bit ? Dave M
According to PP there is no difference between the red and black seal. I tried SOB and had an issue with their seals while initially setting up the unit (two bad seals out of eight). Sent it back and stuck with PP. Guess sealing a tire valve stem is "high tech).
Roland
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on August 14, 2012, 09:10:17 am
Roland, Agree on the high tach, but everything is high tech if you have no clue as to how it works or should work. My understanding,, when a company puts a product on the market, I would guess they have worked out any & all weakness issues, if for no other reason for customer satisfaction. But now I feel such is not a biggie for PP. Must say so far on this trip, I have had no issues as of yet, but prior to now, I had massive issues, only when I purchased the "kit" with a modified nut driver and 10 seals, that finally and after replacing one new seal, that no more leaks YET. Gotta say when they work, it is a good feeling to know the tire pressure, but right up to that time, PP was not and still is not a highly regarded product. Ny Opinion Dave M
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: kb0zke on August 19, 2012, 06:19:31 pm
Interesting discussion. I have a factory pressure monitoring system on my Mercury (think it was federally-mandated) that has worked FB since we bought the car in 2008, more than 70,000 miles ago. A couple of times it has alerted me to low pressures, and has been correct each time. One of the old guys at the tire shop said that all of those ***** things ought to be thrown away and regular valve stems installed. The was while he was removing the nail that the monitoring system alerted me to.
Between now and when we get our full-time coach I'll need to read up on these systems.
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on August 23, 2012, 08:57:57 am
So far, so good with the PP, after 13 days since it was determined they were not leaking (all 10), I am currently at the Custer Game Lodge Campground and going to depart little later this AM. I am happy to say the PP system is still quiet, have the blinking green heart beat, but no alarms. Sometimes I think it lost the DC voltage but so far all is happy. I am so happy to report this good news and still wonder why all the leaking issues that PP claims they NEVER had a leaking issue EVER. Gee I feel like I have been Bullsh$ted, and do not understand why PP takes the bull headed stance instead of working with idiots to solve the issues. Their defense is "Your too stupid" to screw the sensor on. FWIW Dave M
Title: Re: Pressure Pro Again or another test
Post by: Roland Begin on August 23, 2012, 09:26:49 am
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PP claims they NEVER had a leaking issue EVER.
FWIW Dave M
Story of my life "no one has that problem but you" I have heard that and different versions uncountable times in dealing with product issues both in my career and private life. And yes I had issues with PP, went so far as to purchase a different TPS but the other model was no better, (two inoperative sensors at the get go). Must take a Mechanical Engineer with a PHD to screw a sensor on a valve stem.