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Title: Blown hydraulic line
Post by: Retired Navy Chief on September 12, 2012, 06:03:20 pm
I was traveling on US 30 in Indiana when a passerby waved that something was wrong.  I checked my mirrors and Gage's, nothing unusual.  So I found a safe place to pull over and walked the coach and noticed the rear cap covered in Hydaulic oil.  I did not know what all that serviced.  I started back on the road and noticed that power steering was one thing,  that is not bad I thought, I can live with that.  Then I noticed the temp gage rising.  I pulled back over and now spewing Anti freeze.  I called my roadside assistance for a tow.  The. Driver pulled the drive axel and said the other could "float".  He then took me to Cummings in Elkhart.  They put it up on the rack and. Sure enough a hydro hose was rubbing on the frame and had a nice gouge.  A new hose is being made and a good cleaning of radiator and coach is in order.  My question and lessons learned are:
1.  Has anyone else experienced the chafing?
2.  If something is wrong stop figure out what is wrong before attempting to proceed.
Title: Re: Blown hydraulic line
Post by: amos.harrison on September 12, 2012, 06:07:30 pm
What year and model coach?  Where specifically was the chafing?  Can you post a picture?
Title: Re: Blown hydraulic line
Post by: Eric Rudolph on September 12, 2012, 08:01:26 pm
I had the same issue while driving in the Yukon.
I lost all hydraulics and thus power steering and fans. First notice was slushy steering, then noticed high temperature. (Fans are hydralic)  Was able to pull onto a turn out. Oil all over rear and ground. I found the hose was resting on a cross beam and finally rubbed through.
Fortunately I was able to get a new hose made in a nearby logging community, which we installed and had enough oil with me to replace the fluid. I had the hose made about an inch shorter and had it wrapped with a protective shielding.
I now also carry some metal splices that I could put on for a temporary repair. I also got a larger wrench that would fit the hose fittings.
Eric
Title: Re: Blown hydraulic line
Post by: wolfe10 on September 12, 2012, 08:29:08 pm
Yes, looking closely for chafing is one of the things that needs to be done-- at least when you buy a coach and then every couple of years.  Gusseting lines that cross, tying lines together with an inner tube cushion, etc is easy and inexpensive.

Spend an hour under your coach (with proper safety stands/blocks in place)-- will save you a lot of grief. Part of a good mechanical inspection.
Title: Re: Blown hydraulic line
Post by: Retired Navy Chief on September 12, 2012, 08:38:10 pm
What year and model coach?  Where specifically was the chafing?  Can you post a picture?
Coach is a 2003 U320.  I did not get pictures but the hose was one that was a feed or return from the fan block.  The hose was laying on top of the frame right under the block.

I forgot to ask in original post is pulling only the drivers side axel ok?  Thanks for the info as this is my first FT.  David
Title: Re: Blown hydraulic line
Post by: Rick & Colleen on September 12, 2012, 09:07:55 pm
We also own a 2003 U320.  While in Cody, Wyyoming for the Pacific Northwest chapter rally in June it was pointed out that my hydraulic hose was being chaffed between the rear engine compartment door and the hydraulic reservoir tank. I was told it was a design flaw of that year and it was suggested I protect it until I could reroute the hose.  On our way home we made an unexpected overnight stop at a Cummins shop (. Another story)!  We had them replace the hose and reroute it behind the hydraulic reservoir.  The cost I believe was around $50 which was a small part of the total bill I paid that day.
Title: Re: Blown hydraulic line
Post by: Michelle on September 12, 2012, 09:18:42 pm
We also own a 2003 U320.  While in Cody, Wyyoming for the Pacific Northwest chapter rally in June it was pointed out that my hydraulic hose was being chaffed between the rear engine compartment door and the hydraulic reservoir tank.

A previous thread with photos

Hydraulic Tank Location on 01 320 (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=12480.msg65534#msg65534)

We had the same issue, but all we needed was a slight rotation of the reservoir tank.  It is something Steve now inspects whenever he is checking fluids.

Michelle
Title: Re: Blown hydraulic line
Post by: John S on September 12, 2012, 09:39:09 pm
I had that issue on my 01.  I just rotated the tank a bit and put some covering over the line to prevent chafing.
Title: Re: Blown hydraulic line
Post by: Dave Head on September 12, 2012, 10:00:34 pm
I had one blow on my 93 U280 between Mobile and Jackson. Had to get towed 45 miles. showed the guy the blown hose... They made up a new one and we we back on the road in 45 minutes.
Title: Re: Blown hydraulic line
Post by: Dean & Dee on September 15, 2012, 11:49:25 am
                   After reading these posts I took a good look at my hydraulic lines. Found that all 3 coming off the main reservoir had some chaffing. Cut old tiewraps and added pipe insulation in the contact areas and re-tied the lines. Easy fix for a potentially bad problem.

                Dean
Title: Re: Blown hydraulic line
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on September 15, 2012, 06:22:21 pm
Dean,
My opinion would tell me the foam pipe wrap would not be very tuff, I would either disconnect one end of the hose and slip a proper size heater or radiator type hose over it, or split the radiator hose and then cover the hydraulic hose, then re ty-rap it.
Heater hoses come in sizes from 1/2", 5/8", 3/4", 1" etc, and any length you like
FWIW
Dave M
Title: Re: Blown hydraulic line
Post by: Don & Tys on September 15, 2012, 06:50:02 pm
I would think this high temp silicon wrap would be ideal for this application... I have used this before and it is very durable.High Temperature, Heat & Flame Resistant Silicone End Wrap Compression Tape (http://www.firesleeveandtape.com/high-temperature-heat-resistant-silicone-end-wrap-seal-tape-self-fusing-aa59163-mili46852.html) Granted, it is expensive at $34 per 36' roll for the inch wide tape, but imagine that there would be plenty left over and it would be worth carrying amongst the spares...
Don
Title: Re: Blown hydraulic line
Post by: wolfe10 on September 15, 2012, 06:56:42 pm
Guys,

Just go by any truck tire store and pick up a truck bad  inner tube.  It should be free and they make great chafe protectors.
Title: Re: Blown hydraulic line
Post by: Dean & Dee on September 15, 2012, 07:09:49 pm
                         Well most of the chaffing was occuring between the lines so I think the pipe insulation will eliminate that. The stuff I used is fairly thick commercial grade. Not the Home Depot type.
          I can keep an eye on it anyway and easily make changes later if neccesary. I do like Bretts truck tube idea for future use.

                        Dean