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Title: Venting AquaHot exhaust
Post by: Yetch on November 25, 2012, 09:42:30 am
I have decided not to winterize my coach, and instead rely on the electrical heater portion of the AH to keep the system above freezing. However, if I wanted to run the diesel heater for the AH, would it cause any harm if I vented the exhaust outside by using a flexible metal hose of some sort, possibly a cloths-dryer exhaust hose?

 
Title: Re: Venting AquaHot exhaust
Post by: Rudy on November 25, 2012, 10:23:03 am
Mike,

Venting outside is a great idea.

The exhaust temp is very hot (way hotter than a clothes dryer), so be sure the pipe you use does not get the penetration in the structure hot enough to burn.
Title: Re: Venting AquaHot exhaust
Post by: Steve & Kathy B on November 25, 2012, 10:24:59 am
I would think that the exhaust would be way too hot for a clothes dryer hose!  I see a fire coming if you use one.  Google a search for regular car exhaust hoses and use one that is designed for that purpose.  They are not cheap either!

Car Guy Garage: Exhaust Hose (http://www.carguygarage.com/exhausthose.html)
Crushproof Hose | Garage Exhaust Hose | Tailpipe Adapters | Garage Exhaust Parts (http://www.crushproof-hose.com)
http://www.northernautoparts.com/ProductDetail.cfm?ProductId=392 (http://www.northernautoparts.com/ProductDetail.cfm?ProductId=392)

Title: Re: Venting AquaHot exhaust
Post by: Barry Beam on November 25, 2012, 11:26:56 am
I have decided not to winterize my coach, and instead rely on the electrical heater portion of the AH to keep the system above freezing. However, if I wanted to run the diesel heater for the AH, would it cause any harm if I vented the exhaust outside by using a flexible metal hose of some sort, possibly a cloths-dryer exhaust hose?

 

Bill Willet gave a nice description of one that he built
Genturi (http://www.beamalarm.com/Documents/genturi-generator-exhaust-extension.html)
Title: Re: Venting AquaHot exhaust
Post by: Horace B. Cupp on November 25, 2012, 11:38:05 am
Steve, I am assuming that you store your coach inside with no heat in the building. I store my coach outside in East Tennessee and do not winterize. I, too, use the electric element of the AquaHot and set the thermostats, all at them, at 50 degrees. I like to be "ready to go"! I cannot imagine why you would want the diesel  unless you want to really warm it up or take a shower but if you do, get some of the hose that garages use to exhaust running vehicles in their shop (like Foretravel).
Title: Re: Venting AquaHot exhaust
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on November 25, 2012, 12:00:27 pm
I also keep the coach in the garage, I open a door at each end of bldg, run the Aqua Hot on diesel for a while, just to keep it exercised about once a month, otherwise it is on the electric element.  Plus I keep a 1200 watt electric heater sitting on floor in kitchen area, just to keep the A-H from turning on so often.  It has a thermostat and seems very happy for last 2-3 years, keeps coach ready to hit the road at a moments notice.  ;D
Works for me.
Dave M
Title: Re: Venting AquaHot exhaust
Post by: Mark... on November 25, 2012, 02:47:28 pm
How many amps would be required to have the battery charger and the electric element of the aquahot turned on with all the thermostats set to 50?  15, 20 or at least 30?  Just wondering...
Title: Re: Venting AquaHot exhaust
Post by: Rudy on November 25, 2012, 03:22:51 pm
Mark,

With all fan coils, pumps and electric element running at the same time, 20 amp would be your answer.  They may not all be running at the same time, but when they are, the 15 amp breaker will blow and now everything is going to get cold.

The electric element is less than 14 amps AC power (I have measured them from 12.7 to 13.6 amps AC).  Running your inverter/charger to supply 12 vdc to the fan coils and pumps would be more than 2 amps in AC power so 15 would blow most likely when all pumps, fan coils and electric element are running.

No other large AC accessories can be run.  No heat pump, microwave or toaster oven for example.  A heavy duty power cord would be needed.  Your 50 amp or a 30 amp power cord with adapter at the 20 amp plug would be best to prevent voltage drop.

Plus, the batteries must be nearly fully charged.  If the coach has been sitting not plugged in and the coach batteries have been suppling power to the inverter for several hours, then when you plug in, the charging function of the inverter/charger will ramp up to 90 plus amps DC.  Now add the whole Aqua Hot system (coach below 50 degree set point) to that load and a 20 amp AC breaker will blow.

Hope this helps you.
Title: Re: Venting AquaHot exhaust
Post by: Roland Begin on November 25, 2012, 04:21:20 pm
Hey the best way to keep everything charged and hot is to join us in Southern Cal and Az for the winter months. No winterizing et al. ;D

Roland
Title: Re: Venting AquaHot exhaust
Post by: Mark... on November 25, 2012, 08:08:45 pm
Thanks Rudy.  That is a some real world info that a nonelectrician like me can understand!