I would like to order the Silerleaf VMSPC product but I do not know what which one to get, 6 or 9 pin. I am not where my MH is housed or I would go look.
6 pin or 9 pin??
Also, do any of you know if it will run on Chrome or Linux? or does have to be one of the fine MS products.
thanks,
OH
2002 U320 3610
Ours is 9-pin.
Best price I've found is here (and it's drop-shipped from Silverleaf), $306.25
Silverleaf VMSPC Engine Monitoring on Your Laptop (http://www.rvupgradestore.com/SilverLeaf-VMSPC-p/vmspc.htm)
We run ours on an MS OS. Isn't Chrome the browser, not the OS? Not sure if it works on Linux or not.
From VMSpc | SilverLeaf Electronics, Inc. (http://www.silverleafelectronics.com/?q=node/6)
System Requirements
-Windows 95, 98, ME, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, or 8. Windows 95 users require a special version.
-Pentium 120 or better CPU
-16 mb RAM, Hard Drive
-RS-232 Serial Port or USB Port
I asked Silverleaf about Chrome and they said no. Linux would require a conversion program simulating MS and reliability was not guaranteed.
It is a 9 pin in my 2001 U320. I am using an Asus EeeBox EB1033-B001E Nettop PC. From Amazon or Tiger Direct. About $375. Not much bigger than a DVD case. Draws 25-35 watts. Mine is in the cabinet above the driver on the side. Easy to run wiring for VMSpc. I use a wifi connected iPad or Samsung tablet for a display (or the front TV when not driving using the HDMI connection). It includes a wireless kbd and mouse and a great array of USB3 and USB2 connections as well as HDMI. A very good graphics card. Lots of RAM and big enough drive. I also have a Toshiba 1 TB USB3 external drive (~$85) and a Samsung external DVD drive (~$40). I am very pleased with speed and performance. Window 7 Pro 64 bit version OS.
VMSpc works flawlessly. As well as weather, maps, navigation, email, web browser of your choice all at the same time. Itunes and movies on your hard drive or on disc work great. I transfer dash cam video to the PC for viewing on the big screen and for editing. Same with pictures from cameras and iPhone. iPhone pictures can be transfered to your PC directly using wifi rather than using bandwidth to send them to the cloud and back.
These are frequently used as Media PCs for recording TV from cable, satellite or antenna and come with mounts to attach directly to the back of your TV or to a wall (back side of the cabinet).
Some hype...
Allow yourself to experience redefined computing greatness and entertainment with the use of the Asus EeeBox EB1033-B001E Nettop PC. This nettop PC guarantees strong performance using its Intel Atom D2700 Dual-Core processor running at 2.13GHz. It also runs several applications quickly with the help of 2GB of DDR3 memory. The Asus EeeBox EB1033-B001E Nettop PC has a 320GB hard drive to store lots of digital files. It also owns the remarkable graphics performance of the NVIDIA GeForce 610M equipped with 512MB video memory. Connect peripherals to this Nettop PC with 4x USB 2.0 and 2x USB 3.0 ports, and use an HDMI port to connect with a high-definition display. 802.11n Wireless LAN connects you to your home network and lets you surf the web at fast speeds. Choose this Asus EeeBox EB1033-B001E Nettop PC and go beyond the limits today.
Intel Atom D2700 Dual Core processor; runs at 2.13GHz as it runs smoothly on your system
2GB of DDR3 memory; delivers amazingly fast multitasking
320GB hard drive; lets you save lots of files with ease
NVIDIA GeForce 610M; powerful GPU to accompany you hurdling demanding applications requiring graphics power
802.11n Wireless LAN; connect to the web with fast networking speeds
.....
Might not be the right fit for everyone butbas a dedicated Pc for your coach at a really good price for what you get,this is a good solution. Higher performance is available at higher cost but this one is pretty good for the price.
And as always PCs keep changing. I know there are other models available and probably a newer version of this one if not now, soon.
Check it out.
Roger
Roger, so you have the Silverleaf hooked to your Asus and you can use it at the same time for other computing applications? I assume you can go from one application to the other as they are all running? Thanks, I am just trying to wrap my head around all of the possibilities for the VMSPC.
Old Hippie
Not Roger, but yes. We have an in-dash Netbox and touchscreen monitor that runs our VMSpc, plus we have radio, GPS software, MP3 player, and a few other things we can switch back and forth to http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?action=media;sa=album;in=255 (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?action=media;sa=album;in=255)
Michelle
Awesome setup.
jack
Gosh Michelle, your set up is exactly what I want to do. Would it be possible to get a basic wiring diagram of your design? and a component list?
thanks,
OH
Mike O'Leary has a used one for sale in the Classified. May be able to save a few bucks.
Rich
OMG - Michelle - You guys are truly super heroes. Would love to do the same in ours. Do you have a DB and where is it mounted?
I looked at Michelle's setup. It is very nice and inspiring. Thanks for sharing it with us.
Basically my setup does the same thing just not quite as builtin but I use the PC for a lot more. Having an HDMI output right into my 39" Vizio HDTV is pretty spectacular. the Asus PC supports full HDTV output. Everything you can run in Windows runs in this set up. Just click on the icons in the task bar (your finger or the wireless mouse works fine) to switch to another prohgram. The 7" Samsung tablet is a good size for keeping an eye on VMSpc. It is simply a display for Windows 7 when you use the Splashtop app. The iPad can be used the same way using the AirDisplay app. It is a bigger screen. The connection between the pc and the tablets is done through your wifi network.
Works nice for me.
I attached a couple pictures including a sign on the front of my barn. The Old Hippie should appreciate it.
Roger
What year of motorhomes did the VMSpc become available in? I assume that the engine must be electronic and not mechanical...
Larry
Roger, we loved the picture and really had a laugh. I even had to re-tell a couple of my 60's stories.
Anyway, I really like your set up also. I even have a Galaxy tab that is not being used. I was worried the the VMSPC would not work with Android, but hey, if there is and app, why not.
What is the mount you are using?
So, onward through the fog..
OH
OTTF
Well we old hippies need to stick together. I used the following dash mount. It sticks to the surface of the dash right above the radio. It comes with adjustable grippers so that it will fit a tablet even with a case on it. There is enough adjustment so that either the Samsung 7" tablet or a full sized iPad will fit. Mine came from England in only a week or so.
Amazon.com: Multi-Surface Dash / Window / Desk Suction Mount for Samsung Galaxy (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B1S1ZRC/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
VMSpc runs on the Windows pc. There are apps for the android tablets (splashtop) or for the iPad (airdisplay). There are downloadable pc versions from each app manufacturer. You start the pc and VMSpc and then start splashtop on the pc as well. Once the tablet is running, you start the splashtop app. The pc and the tablet connect and the pc display shows up on the tablet. You need a wifi network in your coach. Any wireless router will do this. I have a Verizon MiFi device so that I can connect to the internet as well. The PC to tablet connection does not need the internet just the wifi network.
The Samsung tablet needs to be plugged in to a 12v source. It just doesn't have the battery to last for a whole day of driving. I set the PC to not shut the display off after a while or go into sleep mode when there is no user activity. There isn't any, VMSpc runs and the tablet shows the display.
I just didn't want a laptop or a netbook sitting on the dash. I originally was going to do something like Michelle did but the in-dash display and PC buried in the dash while really cool didn't leave me much early flexibility. I got my Samsung 7" tablet at Costco for only $115.00. The Asus PC was about $350. I may still add a color monitor in the dash when I replace the rear view camera. I think the tablet probably has a higher resolution display.
The VMSpc cable runs up behind the driver's side forward window shade trim and up through thr bottom of the cabinet above and back to the pc. I use a $20 Bestek surge protector with 6 110v outlets and 2 USB connectors for phones (5W) and 2 USB connectors for iPads (10W). I am going to add a small 12v cooling fan in the cabinet.
Hope this helps. Please ask questions if you need more answers.
Roger
We took the leap.
Purchased the Silverleaf connecting hardware from rvupgrades, a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 and a Belkin N300 Wi-Fi Dual Band Range Extender from Best Buy. Installed VNC Viewer (downloaded for free) on the Lonovo G570 Laptop and purchased it from the Play Store for the Samsung Tab ($9.95). Also downloaded and installed the Silverleaf program on the laptop. My smart and computer savy DW, life partner and A** saver did her magic and everything is working so far. I will use a Dash mount for the tab (not purchased yet)and plug it into one of the 12v outlets using a 12v inverter, plug the laptop into the outlet by the driver's seat and the hardware into the laptop that will ride on the couch behind the driver's seat.
I think what we have accomplished with the help of a "Geek" from Best Buy and my A** saving DW is to run VMSpc on my laptop and through the VNC Viewer and Belkin (we created our own local network) and view the Mirrored image on the Samsung Tab which should show the VMC data displayed on my pc. At least I think that is what we did. Cost - a little less than $600.00 for everything.
Will wait for the hardware to get here and plug it all in. As much as I wanted to get rear camera, Javelina, RM 7720 and the VMSpc together
Will also post a pic of the dash when all done.
Scott and Carol, you will like the VMSpc, I'm sure. Be sure you set your laptop to not sleep after a while and try to minimize the number of things that popup telling you to update this or that. I also allowed the pC to boot up without a logon. I have sat there for a while trying to get the tablet and pc to connect and then remembered to turn on the router for the wireless connection.
Experiment with the VMSpc layout and guages. It is entirely customizable. You can save several different layouts and use any one you want or switch between them depending on what you want to watch. The fuel usage is quite accurate. A fill up is usually within a few gallons of what it says. The difference is generator use and AquaHot.
Roger
Thanks Roger- Having been on this forum for a little while, I had read about the VMS tool in various threads and soon realized that it would be a nice addition for my Ol' Girl. I did not get to see it or appreciate it until we met fellow forum members Dave and Nancy recently in Albuquerque. Dave has done wonderful electrical stuff with his coach and has been instrumental in helping me to make informed choices. So for me it is a challenge deciding what are the most important enhancements/upgrades without going overboard (easy for me - going overboard). I am starting to read the manual and will not be bashful when I find a question about the VMS system that I can't find the answer to or don't understand what's written.
Love this forum.
When you first set up VMSpc, you can create a "simple gauge" for "Total Miles" and then compare the reading with your odometer. You can then use the VMSedit program to adjust the mileage calculation factor (multiplier) to whatever is needed to make the two mileages close to each other if they are off (tire wear, etc). I currently have my multiplier set to 1.00674 and that keeps the two readings very close together.
My odometer and VMSpc miles are off by about +400 VMSpc miles out of 54,000, almost the same difference factor as yours. But which one is more correct? I wonder why they would be different? What drives the dash display? I don't think it is a mechanical odometer. Souldn't they be the sme?
7 or 8 miles difference per thousand. This changes your MPG out in the 0.05 MPG range.
Roger
Well, I couldn't tell you which is the "correct-est" mileage. I think they could/should be the same, but they aren't...so the Cummins ECU must not be feeding the odometer directly...and we know it IS feeding the VMSpc directly. I haven't tested the mileage on the road to determine which is actually closest to the true mileage. The VMSpc folks have a forum and maybe that question has been asked and answered there. I'm sure that's where I learned how to do the multiplier adjustment.
So is mine. I think it is the testing they do at the factory making up the difference. They run the engine from time to time and it must add up.
My GPS and VMSpc are on total agreement on MPH and close enough on mileage. I pay closer attention to the MPH than the mileage. ;D
Dave, we are talking miles since new.
My Garmin and VMSpc agree closely on MPH. They are usually a little bit higher than the speedometer. Makes me think that the VMSpc miles since new might be more accurate or at least the one to believe. I will check out the VMSpc forum for some more insight.
Roger
Still agree on the MPH, to me is more vital than being off a few thousand miles per 100,000.0 miles, I call that nit pickin, now if my MPH read out was off by 2 or 3, would fix it. On flat land the VMSpc & GPS are in total MPH harmony, they disagree on mountains up/down a little, the steeper, the more they disagree. ;D
Also feel the VDO speedometer is not as accurite as the VMSpc readout, old analog displays rarely are spot on correct.
I am truly OCD - spent the last 4 hours setting up the screen. So cool. I can't wait to see all of the thingies move. :D
By the way- Does the program notify you re: diagnostic errors? If so, how is it done?
Dave, my mph, and speed match. It is just the odometer that is off by 400 miles and it never changes. I know you can go in and adjst Silverleaf for the initial difference but it does not matter and I thought I was the ony one. I wonder if foretravel tests them before hooking up the odometer. I doubt back and forth during construction is that big a difference.
I was just looking at the manual last night and there is a section for displaying engine (and transmission, I guess) diagnostic messages. Be sure to download the manual from the VMSpc download page. It is a pdf file.
Agree on miles since new and speed. VMSpc is probably more accurate. The manual says tire changes can change what it reports. Same with MPH. A slightly bigger tire diameter will increase actual MPH and miles moved but VMSpc will not change what it reports unless you tell it to. Engine RPMs, transmission gear, final drive ratio and tire diameter are all part of these equations. VMSpc knows the engine and transmission you have but must be making assumptions about final drive ratios and tire size. They give all the directions you need to make both absolute and proportional changes to almost all of their gauges. Make 'em read whatever you want. Warp speed, Mr. Checkov. Engage!
Roger
Current VMSpc screen design. Haven't driven with this design yet...... Anything else I should display that I don't have??? Thoughts?
do you display what gear you are in? I like that on my display
That is the key for the VMSpc, you can display what ever, any way you like, doubt there are two identical displays. Sone items are more important that others, so I have them displayed a little larger. Choices are endless.
One of the MUST have items to keep me smiling.
I keep calling but no apple till end of year. :(
Bob
Good start. I keep fussing around with my display. I find the vertical bar chart and the horizontal moving line graph don't do much for me. I have the key things I look at stacked up on one side, oil pressure, engine coolant temp, turbo temp, battery volts, transmission temp. Minimized labels, red/yellow/green indicator lights. A quick glance, all green good to go. I also like the gauge that shows miles 'til empty, gallons left and recent mpg. This one is very useful and seems to be pretty accurate. A clock is good too.
When I first hooked mine up I was looking at it all the time. Now i can just glance at it an know my key indicators are OK. The two ?? will show range and gear. RPM and gear and speed make it pretty easy to find the sweet spots (around 1375 rpm for the ISM11) and recent and immediate MPG gives you a pretty good feel for what effects what.
Don't lose track of driving lookin at the display. Lights catch your eye pretty fast. I think you can set audible alarms as well.
Have fun
Roger
Scott, yes you missed off the red light for when you want a coffee (or tea) that is supposed to blink in front of Carol!!
I have a few more things but my screen is bigger (netbook) but looks like you have the main things covered
John H
Can you select round gauges with moving needles for any of the functions?
Bob, since you're checking on it, please post what you learn about using Apple products for the readouts. We're all Mac here and will be doing some computer replacements/upgrades fairly soon and I'd like to get the right item for this.
I looked at the manual. I don't see any round gauges with wagging pointers. Looks like the glass panel displays in the new coaches have them but not with VMSpc.
The digital displays are so much faster to get info from. 1375 RPM doesn't take to much visual processing and interpolation. Most of the gauges can be configured with a bar across the bottom that will move left and right to give you an analog view. A couple of mine are that way but i don't "see" that part of the display. Transmission temp is 200, indicator light is green, all I need to know. I want to see at a glance that all is OK. If not I can pay attention to the exceptions.
I would like to add retarder temp and front and rear air pressure. All I have to do is figure out the PID # for those. Not sure i am going to find the air pressures.
It is sort of like TPMS. I look at it once in a while but want it to squawk when I need to pay attention.
Roger
Is anyone running a Windows OS (7 or 8) using Parallels or Fusion5 to run VMSpc?
Lots of folks run Windows apps on their Apple computers. I don't have one to try but it might be a way for "all Apple" folks to have a go. We use several versions of Windows, OSX, iOS and Android in our world.
I just bought a netbook at Costco with Windows on it and use that only for the Silverleaf. Works well.
Long ago cruising in traffic with a 40' 8v92 bluebird and grooving on all the gauges and buttons I looked up and had a car stopped right in front of me. Woah baby. Distracted driving.
Sat in a f18 cockpit 30 years ago and the round gauges with red pointers were set so the correct position for that function had the needle vertical. Any deviation was where your attention was needed. Quick glance or peripheral vision. You died if too distracted.
Hope the apple version allows round rotatable Gauges with needles myself.
I am excellent at interpolation but the rate of change in digits will test anyone's abilities.
Multiply the numbers on the display and your brain may display the blue screen error 404 file not found message. Haha.
Interesting the glass dash has round gauges. Older rich guys need more help.
My buddy has the ability to build glass dashes in coaches. Fab and lazer or water cut whatever material panels are needed and can electro luminance them from the rear.
He showed me a 1991 Angola coach prevost with a custom dash yesterday.
I do like the 97's dash although the way it is.
I have a two screen display already with my Garmin nav and my iPad that I switch between maps and all stays and gas buddy and the weather channel and the weather radar.
Adding in the silverleaf iPad will be fun but I think it needs to be off to the side above the dash and closer to the drivers window. Big thick walnut shade frame to clamp a adjustable ram type claw mount to looks good. I use the small Garmin to keep a continual mileage and average mph and running times in total and never reset it till home. And it displays the mph in my off axis vision. Its main screen shows current speed limits.
Sure is fun. Works pretty well moving as far as data transfers and signal strengths. Need a multiplier maybe....
Bob
Dave M - I like stuff too. Would love to be able to justify a resonator.
I was looking for a retarder temp too. Didn't see it so loaded trans temp. Thought that would do for now.
Good Idea about the RED or GREEN. Will keep that in mind going forward.
I'm sure I will modify the configuration of the gauges as I get to know how it works.
I think I will use all of the instruments on the coach as I did while flying.
I think I am going to do the resonator also. I have the unit and need to get with Barry at his freight liner shop and install it.
My coach falls on its face to me at higher rpms. Never felt any DP that runs like this. Two shops checked it and I am sure its as ok as I can be. Plus Richard had a silverleaf hooked to it and said it showed everything was ok. Driven lots of DP Rvs and I really think this is choked off too much. Would be surprised if a big change was not the result. I can get the m11's program redone to fuel it up I find but would need an EGT gauge and monitoring for safety. Exhaust first. Then we will see.
Bob
It's not a default item; you have to define it yourself. Retarder Temperature on Silverleaf VMSpc (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=14573.0)
That is news, concerning a retarder fluid temp sender, There is the sump temp sender, max temp at this point is 250f, so if there also has the retarder sender, would be good, so need verification on that one. Might be a derived reading as VMSpc has on some readings.
The retarder temp is much higher than the sump, why they want the sump limited to the 250 f..
Never a dull day :D
Also should mention while discussing the Allison Transmission Fluid requirements with the former Allison Fluids engineer concerning the Transynd (?) ATF, the comment was made concerning the reason for limiting the sump temp to the 250 f because the temps at retarder discharge would be 50 f hotter than sump, and that was the limit.
"as I understand from our discussion"
Surely someone has a different take on this.
Also per Mark Harvey, there is only the sump sensor as I under stand from our talk on this subject.
Resonator easy to justify, pay for itself
Michelle - again you are a wonder.
Thanks Tim - really needed to hear that..... :D
Went to - Advanced -> Parameter Editor -> New - entered PID 120 and added all values and erased Battery Volts. DUH :'(
Any one know what the PID is for Battery Volts or where I can find them. I have applied for Silverleaf forum password but have not received it yet. ARGH.
Nah, just plagued with an odd memory capability (all those things I want to forget from high school? Yup - vivid as the day they happened :( )
The Google says 168. Seached the Web for Cummins PID Battery Volts
-M
There is a simple gauge for battery volts in the VMSpc selections.
I used a paint pen and put a green dot on the dash analog transmission temp gauge at 200 and at 180 for the coolant temp. Sort of like a rotatable target line.
Roger
Here is what I have been using for about a year. The retarder temp is one of the most valuable gauges for navigating long downhill grades, at least for me. You will notice that the retarder temp will shoot through the roof if you are not careful, hitting 300 degrees at times. The transmission temp lags behind, but will rise when the retarder fluid is dumped into the transmission fluid.
The text field in the top middle "gauge" tells me if the retarder is on or off and if the cruise is off, on or set.
Geo, Delighted to see that Allison has that sensor, it is not a FOT sensor,, like the man said do not exceed the 300f at retarder using the Transynd ATF,
THANKS
I am such a dufus. Sniffer works when it has power. DUH. Turned the key, sniffer works and found battery volts.
My ancient understanding was that before transynth the trans was fine at 300 degrees or below. An old Allison guy mentioned when using old conventional trans oil to pull the dipstick and look for a color change from the red to a more orange color and a burned smell to the oil.
Bob
Dave, George did my 2 computors for the ret temp. He is a whiz on that stuff. Suggest you drive to Tucson to get him to do it because the dessert you are offered is yummy, along with the hospitality.
Long drive but worth it.
John H
Dave M.... email me and I will see if I can help you find the retarder temp. gmhatfield100@gmail.com
[Snip: mail me and I will see if I can help you find the retarder temp.}
George; I'd like to set up a Retarder gauge on my display as well, if you'd be willing to share? - sdslim@q.com
We're in Taylorsville State Park in KY doing the Bourbon Trail. Unfortunately the park has no WiFi and our Verizon aircard has a very weak signal. So I can't send anyone anything in the way of images or Word documents. Can't even search the Form for my past posts. Most of what I have to send has been posted previously. Perhaps someone can find it. Otherwise, I'll send everyone asking for more info something later this week. We plan to leave here on Wednesday.
The process is pretty straight forward. First, download the latest person of the software. VMSpc Downloads | SilverLeaf Electronics, Inc. (http://www.silverleafelectronics.com/?q=node/9) I think it is version 3.0 build 1. Next, use the parameter editor to setup PID 120. Setup new gauge. Then define as follows: gauge: Retarder Temp; Abbreviation: RET; PID 120; unit: F; min 80; LRL: 0; HRL 300; GMax:300; LYL: 0; HYL: 250; Format: %0f; offset: 0 and Multiplier: 1. Then save this.
Once this is done you should be able to see the retarder temp when you setup a new gauge under gauges.
George
Dave M, we leave here wednesday for NJ by air and should be starting the drive home an hour after we get to Ed and Evelyn's.
I am taking some solar panels etc and resonator and pipes so we do a change on it while stopped for sleep etc!!!
Hope to be home this time next week.
John H
Dave..... I have the serial port version of the cable too. After my serial port computer died, I started using a Serial to USB converter which works fine.
Geez, I have great news I think, First Thanks George, I followed your info, and BINGO, have the Retarder Temp displayed, so so simple when you have a clue as I am usually clueless, so I am grinning, again thanks
Dave M
John H,
Sure wish I could catch up along the way and help with the resonator too.
Know you will have a great trip.
Good luck and enjoy and if by chance you wind up on I-90, save a couple hours for the Auto Museum in Murdo, SD, I promise you will be amazed. :o It is not a high class joint where everything is polished like new, more like it came off the street, that means more to me than a wax job. What a collection of STUFF, cars, trucks, farm tractors, slot machines, old everything.
Dave M
George H helped walk me through install of the retarder temp gauge last year when we first got the Vmspc. I use it all the time when in the hills/mountains. Peace of mind knowing what the fluid temp is.
Dean
Well, now it makes sense, Mark Harvey said that the temp sender was in the sump, guess I should have pushed for more info on temp senders, but I did not know enough to ask. :-[
Put Amsoil synthetic in and watch it go down and also able to help with greater heat control. get rid of the Transynd crap. Mine runs sweet. Now over a year in and no seize ups etc like I was told would happen by the "experts"
John H
Dave-what did you set the multiplier at?
Original was 1, that gave me the 43, then used 1.8. That gave 80, so used 1.785 gave the matching number to the sump reading.
Since this produced a roll, I changed the DC Volt reading to match my Fluke 87 MK III.
Still have lot of space to fill up, when done there will be no white screen as it makes it difficult at night,being toooo bright.
Just like a poo kid with a new toy !
I know.
If you use the latest version of the software (version 3.0), the retarder temp will be correct. The old software (i.e., version 2.5) will not give the correct value. Not sure using a mulitplier will even work with older versions. The software is defective when it comes to this PID.
George, maybe you can answer this. I posted the question on the VMSpc forums but haven't gotten an answer.
My current version of VMSpc is 2.2a, and I am running it on an old HP Omnibook 800CT running Win98 (it has a serial port and the computer is dedicated to just the VMSpc). I have been trying to learn whether version 3.0 can be run on Win98. I don't want to screw up a working system, but it sounds like I can get better access to the PIDs and easier programming with 3.0...if it is compatible.
What should I set yellow and red volts to?
@Scott...my battery (PID168) has the following min/max and limit values:
8 12 15
16 13 14.5
@Brad... I would give them a call. When I have done that they have been very helpful. Or you can just install 3.0 on your computer and see if it works. I'd go in first and rename the old directories so you don't overwrite anything. Then if it does not work, go in and change the names back and you are set.
George H,
Again, Thanks for the info, I have changeed to the V3.0 and as you mentioned, the retarder temp came up near to what I expected, Have a pix added showing how it is lower then the sump temp, guess I need to get it on the road to see exactly how it settles out, might need a multiplier to bring the two closer, unknown now.
Now after rearranging everyting, have space for other info.
Thanks
Dave M
Dave....the retard temp is often lower than the trans when we start in the morning. Not sure why. But after a bit of driving, the temps will be close. You will notice an immediate increase in the retard temp when using the retarder. I have the retard multiplier set to 1. Have fun!
Thanks George. I called and they said no problem. The biggest problem I had was getting the program onto the old 800CT computer! Talk about taking progress for granted! While the computer has a serial port, there are no USB ports, SD card slots, wifi, nor Network card! I had to burn the 455k file onto a CD from the normal computer, then get it into the proprietary HP CD Rom player to be read. Sheesh!
I just deleted the old VMSpc.exe file and replaced it with the newly downloaded VMSpc_0.exe file and renamed it VMSpc.exe. Looks like it works just fine.
Brad.....HUH? Think I am SO happy I have no idea how a computer works...would be just something else I could mess up. And I am really, really good at doing that...
Cheap alternative method: Craigslist laptop
Took a short road trip this week and got to see the VMS work since we installed it. It's really nice to see all of that stuff. I especially like seeing the target gear and actual gear. :D