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Title: A corner weighed
Post by: Mark... on September 28, 2013, 02:56:44 pm
At the 2013 Sevierville GV the Recreational Vehicle Safety & Educational foundation (RVSEF) presented a weight seminar. At the end of the GV you could have your coach 4-corner weighed.
So, for those who have never seen an individual wheel scale here is a close up pic along with placement of the scale and finally a set of duallys on the scale.
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: prfleming on September 28, 2013, 02:59:57 pm
Is one of these available to rent anywhere? A Christmas gift for the man who has everything... Ebay is showing these used for $1850. Haenni WL101 Portable Truck Wheel Weigher Axle Scales | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/290981710989?redirect=mobile)
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: John S on September 28, 2013, 04:58:28 pm
I was weighed. I had 2k more carrying capacity but I added a couple mobility scooters so I will have to up my pressure in the front a few pounds.
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: amos.harrison on September 28, 2013, 05:51:26 pm
RVSEF posts which rallies they are scheduled to attend. Escapees have permanent installations at several of their parks.
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: Barry & Cindy on September 28, 2013, 06:25:51 pm
Escapees RV Club has several locations where you can get your coach weighed: SmartWeigh_Default (http://www.escapees.com/smartweigh/)
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: John S on September 28, 2013, 07:04:05 pm
They will be back at Indiana I understand. Pretty big turn out for weighing. I talked with them and you need 20 weighs to get them to come. Some chapters can include it in the rally fee and meet the 20 coach requirement.
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: TulsaTrent on September 29, 2013, 08:33:54 am
I added a couple mobility scooters so I will have to up my pressure in the front a few pounds.
John,
How and where are you loading and storing the scooters?
Thanks,
Trent
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: MR B2 on September 29, 2013, 09:40:07 am
How accurate is the four corner weighing, ???????
Do you have Public weighbridges in the USA,
We have public weighbridges here, I weighed my whole Coach at once, $40-00 Its dead accurate, I needed it for the registration of my Coach,
They also have very steep fines here for overloading,
All highways have weighbridges run by the Govt, Transport Dept, All heavy vehicles must enter and be weighed, By Law, Drive past one, They just jail you, Confiscate the vehicle, All at your expense of course, Its very simple, You dont drive past a weighbridge,
Big scrap yards usually have scales, Or trucking companys, Brick making Companys, They charge a small fee, But they are accurate,
They all give a print out of the results and a receipt,
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: Gayle McNeece on September 29, 2013, 10:42:10 am
I don't know about other states, but the state of Washington leaves the scales for their "Weigh Stations" turned on even when the station is not manned/weighing commercial trucks. The scale digital readouts are usually visible by looking in the glass window of the locked station's door. There is one near where we spend each fall. It has a large turn-around area plus there is a rest area right across the street if you can't make the turn within the limits of the weigh station. We weigh each axle, turn around, weigh each tire on a side, turn around, weigh each tire on the other side.
We did that this fall with our new-to-us 2003. It works and is free.
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: amos.harrison on September 29, 2013, 10:54:38 am
It is much less likely that an entire vehicle is overweight than that a single tire would be. RVSEF said normal truck scales are OK for axle weight but are not accurate when trying to use them off center to determine wheel weights. In fact CAT has notified their scale owners that they will not stand behind the results when their scales are used in this manner.
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: Dick S on September 29, 2013, 11:06:50 am
Henderson's Line-up in Grants Pass, OR has individual wheel scales as shown above. Also, Oregon's truck scales are easy to use when closed. The digital read out is ahead of the vehicle for easy reading. Makes it easy to see when an axle/wheel rolls on and off the platform.
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: PatC on September 29, 2013, 11:11:14 am
We have public weighbridges here, I weighed my whole Coach at once, $40-00 Its dead accurate, I needed it for the registration of my Coach,
They also have very steep fines here for overloading,
All highways have weighbridges run by the Govt, Transport Dept, All heavy vehicles must enter and be weighed, By Law, Drive past one, They just jail you, Confiscate the vehicle, All at your expense of course, Its very simple, You dont drive past a weighbridge,
Big scrap yards usually have scales, Or trucking companys, Brick making Companys, They charge a small fee, But they are accurate,
They all give a print out of the results and a receipt,
Many of our various states and counties truck enforcement portable units here in the US carry portable scales. They are sensitive to the driver who spike the brakes when pulling on them, and mishandling, which can throw them out of calibration. ±100 lb (up to 2500 lb) ±200 lb (2500...10 000 lb) ±300 lb (10 000...20 000 lb) Most states allow a percentage of error before writing a overweight ticket. Some of the county truck enforcement units will corner weight you if you can hook up with them when they are not busy.
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: P. Wyatt Sabourin on September 29, 2013, 02:52:21 pm
British Columbia weight scales are also available when the scale is closed and the scale surface is level with the ground to the left and there is sufficient room to have right tires on the scale with left tires off the scale.
When weighing one side, I am careful to have the right side tires centered on the scale while the left side are clear of the scale. This is just possible and does require an outside observer, particularly for the rear.
I have seen scales in USA where this is not possible due to fencing on both sides of the scale.
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: BamaFan on October 01, 2013, 10:18:17 am
Can FOT or MOT corner weigh a coach? Or anyplace else in Nac?
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: John S on October 01, 2013, 03:43:44 pm
No they can not weigh the coaches at the corners. I have not had mine weighed at the corners adn I was 500 more on the drivers side. I figured the two slides added some weight on the drivers side so I loaded the passenger side heavier.
Trent, I put them both in the front bay with out the seats. They sit next to them as does the 4 foot ramp.
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: Dave Cobb on October 01, 2013, 03:56:34 pm
Corner weights in Nac? Yes!
Last April, when we were buying our U295, from out of state but thru FOT, the state of TX required a weight cert. FOT had a driver take us to the scales at the truck stop, north on the loop, on the west side. As she drove on the scales, it looked like it was possible to get one side off, one side on without much problem. We were in a hurry with other driving errands for her to do.
Since them I have reweighed at a QT truck stop with a CAT scale, doing half on and half off. Only problem is pushing the call button from the coach seat without a stick. Tell the call box that you want a double weight. And then when you come around for the second time you may need a tall helper to reach up to the button from the pavement.
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: Grant L on October 02, 2013, 12:32:56 am
Henderson's Line-up in Grants Pass, OR has individual wheel scales as shown above. Also, Oregon's truck scales are easy to use when closed. The digital read out is ahead of the vehicle for easy reading. Makes it easy to see when an axle/wheel rolls on and off the platform.
I missed the turn into a closed Oregon truck scale last night, so this morning I checked with Henderson's Line-up to see if they had time to weigh and also check the shocks. They did so had that done (weight was quite even side to side and shocks were good). However, they did find a hub seal was leaking (DS) and changed it while we waited. I was very happy with the service - Jim, Sean and Don. Would highly recommend. Thanks Dick.
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: Tim Fiedler on October 02, 2013, 10:37:00 am
2000 SIngle slide 40' U-320
Stuff in every closet, nook and cranny Joey beds in two main compartments, full plus some items in compartment behind left front tire Girard Awning in place of zip de (heavier) full propane 75% full water, 75% full deisel fuel
Empty grey and black tanks
GVWR = 34,880 Pounds
Weighed at all four corners at GV
Front Axel was 12,925 lbs Rear was 20,250 Lbs
Total of 33,175
Still have 1,705 lbs capacity when in this condition!!!
good peace of mind,
BTW, the side to side difference (balance) was within 25 LBS.
FWIF, and Your mileage may vary!!!
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: prfleming on October 02, 2013, 08:58:25 pm
Tim, what was the cost? How long does it take?
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: Tim Fiedler on October 02, 2013, 09:40:40 pm
it was $60, and took 10 minutes or less. Was done at Grandvention, suspect the RV Safety group shows up at most large ralleys I think.
Was a benefit of Grand Vention attendance
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: lgshoup on October 03, 2013, 03:19:13 pm
Had ours weighed at the rally at Brooksville last Feb. For some reason the left rear was 1000 lbs higher than the right. I really think they misread something. I can't find anything that would cause so much difference.
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: ScubaGuy on October 03, 2013, 11:17:43 pm
Escapees RV Club has several locations where you can get your coach weighed: SmartWeigh_Default (http://www.escapees.com/smartweigh/)
We had the coach weighed at the Escapee park in Livingston, when we where staying there. We had no idea what we where doing when we moved in and it turned out I was over weight on the front left. We were under except on that one tire. Had I not had each corner weight I wouldn't have known. Definitely money well spent. They also measured the height, which is nice to know as well. Do call ahead, if I remember correct they require 24 hour advanced notice.
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: Green99 on October 04, 2013, 03:08:34 pm
We also had our coach weighted at the GV. It is absolutely the best tool to find out exactly where your tire pressure should be. From the info I got I think most that were weight that weekend were within the limits. They seemed impressed with that.
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: red tractor on October 04, 2013, 10:01:10 pm
We had ours weighed at the Brooksville fmca rally last Feb. and it was very well balanced. I had it weighed at Lazy Days in Tampa about 8 months earlier and their weights had the right front much heavier than the left front, so I moved things around. I was not to sure about the Lazy Days weight as they had great trouble getting the wheels onto the scales and even had to jack up several wheels to put the scales under the wheels. The scales at Brooksville fmca were very easy to drive over and he gave me a computer print out of my weights and it was cheaper than Lazy Days
Title: Re: A corner weighed
Post by: Falconguy on October 06, 2013, 07:10:01 am
I had my coach weighed at the Escapees Park in Livingston,TX after my recent interior and step upgrade project. The process was quick,professional and well worth the $55 (this included my toad). The great design and engineering that go into our Foretravel coaches is clearly evident when you see the actual loads and weight distribution on each axle. I would highly recommend this service to anyone that has the opportunity to be near a SmartWeigh site or any of the rallies that provide it around the county.