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Title: Evans waterless coolant
Post by: kenhat on November 26, 2013, 10:38:59 pm
Thought I'd break this out into it's own thread since it could take off.

Brett
What about " Evans waterless coolant".

Do you know anyone who converted to it and installed a higher temperature thermostat?

There seems to be a lot of praise for the product but I did also find negative comments from the supplier of a competitor product.

My SCA's are at the max level, however after they drop I wil install Extended service or waterless coolant.

Just watched the Jay Leno  video on this. Jay Leno's Garage: Waterless Engine Coolant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7PykrgzWPQ#ws)

Pretty impressive claims. Also pretty impressive cost! $39.99 a gallon...but never have to change it out makes it interesting. Zero corrosion is also a great selling point.

It would be tough for us to convert over as you need to drain all water from the system. Not very easy to do on our coaches. Can't have more than 3% water left in system.

Anyone have any comments? Knowledge to add?

Let the fun begin.

see ya
ken
Title: Re: Evans waterless coolant
Post by: wolfe10 on November 26, 2013, 11:01:37 pm
Ken,

My first question (and suspect the of many others) is "show me the Mil-specs" so I know it meets the specs set by Cat and Cummins for engine coolant in my engine.
Title: Re: Evans waterless coolant
Post by: kenhat on November 26, 2013, 11:23:28 pm
Sorry Brett don't know what a "Mil-specs" is. :( Military spec??

see ya
ken
Title: Re: Evans waterless coolant
Post by: JohnFitz on November 26, 2013, 11:27:34 pm
It's been discussed before:  Evans Coolant (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=18274.msg124694#msg124694)
Title: Re: Evans waterless coolant
Post by: John Haygarth on November 26, 2013, 11:32:12 pm
http://www.evanscooling.com/assets/Uploads/EvansFinal-Report05022012Deliverable.pdf (http://www.evanscooling.com/assets/Uploads/EvansFinal-Report05022012Deliverable.pdf)

Here is a very comprehensive  test report Wolfe,
John H
Title: Re: Evans waterless coolant
Post by: Caflashbob on November 26, 2013, 11:34:40 pm
I have been running Evans ngpr+ in my off road bikes since 2005.  I can race the bikes with the cap loose.  No loss. 

Lots of the classic car guys use it for the lack of corrosion

Would love to replace any glycol based coolants in my coach for the
Evans. 

Lifetime product.  The lack of micro bubbles heightens the heat transfer is what we noticed.

The radiator ran hotter as more heat was removed from the engine itself

The test said the same thing we noticed.  Interesting.  No cavitation or liner erosion.

Now where can we get a deal on the quantity needed and how to get all the water out.

We used to run the motors over 212 with no pressure cap and the water evaporates.

Bob
Title: Re: Evans waterless coolant
Post by: wolfe10 on November 27, 2013, 08:52:03 am
Ken,

Sorry, yes I mean the specifications that are pretty universally accepted and signify that a product meets certain minimum specs set by engine manufacturers (and military).

If you look at this one page spec sheet for a typical ELC coolant, the whole first part is the manufacturer specs that it meets:http://parts.cat.com/parts/machine-fluids/coolants/extended-life-coolant

It is one of the first things I look at with new products-- that is, does it meet the requirements set by my engine manufacturer. 

The fact that it does not state the specs it meets does not mean a product doesn't meet them, it may just mean it has not gone through the verification process.

But, with something as costly as an engine, I do feel more "warm and fuzzy" to know that it meets my engine manufacturer's specs.
Title: Re: Evans waterless coolant
Post by: kenhat on November 27, 2013, 11:22:56 am
Thanks Brett. I seriously doubt that there will be any testing on my DD 6v92. It's been out of production for many years. :(

Leno does say that he has been using it for 16 years. I would think if it met any of the "popular specs" they would have published by now. Can't believe it's been around that long and I haven't heard of it.

I wouldn't mind spending the money up front if I got the lifetime use, 0 pressure on system, no boil over, and no corrosion. I don't think I'd be changing the thermostat or reducing the fan runtime. (which would be tough to do with the hydraulic pump driven fans) Oh well I'll keep an eye on it and see what happens.

see ya
ken