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Title: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: Wattalife54 on January 25, 2014, 10:22:30 am
I've been pestering Bob to spice up our bathroom with some tile work for several years now and we finally pulled the plug on it and did it.  All I can say is WOW, what a tedious job but I think it came out beautifully!  We left the wallboard in place since it was firmly glued to the wall and used Bondera (an adhesive mat) because we could not sufficiently rough up its surface.  We were able to remove the mirror without breaking it so we removed the frame and mounted it with CRL 16" Mirraco Mirror Hanger.  All in all, I'm very pleased with the end results and Bob is very pleased to have me off his back about tiling the bathroom!!  As a side note, the toilet flapper gasket was not holding water and the original OEM gasket required that you remove the toilet to install it but the new one is a self adhesive which can be replaced with the toilet in place:)  Now she is holding water nicely!
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: fouroureye on January 25, 2014, 10:29:10 am
Great look!

In fact were looking at what looks like the same tile, from lowes?
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: ohsonew on January 25, 2014, 10:34:03 am
Man that looks really nice. I think I will have to hide these pictures from the DW. I can see something like this in my future.

Larry
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: Wattalife54 on January 25, 2014, 10:39:11 am
We got the tile in Costco of all places and Larry this "project" took about 1 week total to do because of all the cuts.  Many "F" bombs were flying through the air during this job :))
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: Raymond Jordan on January 25, 2014, 11:39:22 am
Hi Bob & Faith,
  Great work. Could not look better!
Raymond
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: danieljeff545 on January 25, 2014, 11:56:24 am
Very nice! I love that tile!
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: MAZ on January 25, 2014, 01:43:46 pm
Nice job. That looks beautiful.

Mark
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: Peter & Beth on January 25, 2014, 01:54:56 pm
I too got the galley backsplash tile from Costco.  They look great.  Nice job.
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: ohsonew on January 25, 2014, 04:07:18 pm
Bob,

I can believe that it took a week. It would probably take me longer I assume. Sorry that it got "bombed" so much. I hate it that happens. Still looks great and professional. Still can't show the wife:))

Larry
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: alan1958 on January 25, 2014, 04:22:44 pm
Wow!!!!! I been thinking on the same lins as this also. Is it glass tile and how large are the panels?
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: Carol Savournin on January 25, 2014, 11:06:21 pm
Oh, wow .... that is gorgeous.  Added to the list!!
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: John S on January 26, 2014, 08:55:01 am
Nice one. I was thinking of doing my bathroom next.
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: Wattalife54 on January 26, 2014, 09:30:00 am
Thanks for the kind words.  We love the new look.  The tile panels are 12" x 12" and we used Golden Select Cabernet that we bought at Costco.
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: Wattalife54 on January 26, 2014, 09:39:07 am
My photos are being flipped clockwise when I download them and I don't know how to stop that from happening.  Any suggestions??
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: Michelle on January 26, 2014, 10:53:21 am
My photos are being flipped clockwise when I download them and I don't know how to stop that from happening.  Any suggestions??

I'm guessing they were taken with a phone.  That's the orientation the photos were taken in.  The phone can auto-rotate the display; the web can't.  Generally, you need to download and fix the rotation of phone photos before posting.  You might be able to fix it in Picasa/DropBox as well. what's the view from your coach's front window? (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=13009.msg129950#msg129950). 

Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: youracman on January 26, 2014, 11:22:25 am
Just to amplify what Michelle wrote, here's a techie's explanation I've pasted from an online article: (Even though I wouldn't recognize an EXIF tag if it bit me in the leg.)

How could Apple make such a silly mistake?

Let's step back for a second. If you rotate your iPhone, the camera sensor won't know about it. It will simply record the image and save it to a file, letting the software of your phone do the rest. To make sure that your photos are displayed correctly, your iPhone adds information about the correct rotation of the photo to the properties of each image, which are specified in EXIF tags.

Your iPhone doesn't convert any images to correct orientation because that would keep it busy for a few seconds. Instead it simply saves all photos as they were recorded and adds information about their correct orientation to EXIF tags. This means that your iPhone is ready to shoot another photo within a fraction of a second, which is just awesome.

The only problem is that some software developers, including Microsoft, ignore the information that's stored in EXIF tags. There's a huge debate about who's right and who's wrong.

FWIW- As Michelle suggested, when I get an iphone image sent by my family, I take it to Photoshop and orient it correctly before saving.  If I want to fwd it, I also have to use Photoshop to "shrink" the image by at least 50% ........ or one has to scroll like crazy to see who's in the image.......irritatin' ain't it? :-(

Ed S.  Moved to from TX to CO and still reading this great forum daily..............
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: Wattalife54 on January 26, 2014, 01:18:02 pm
I took the pictures with my camera and the orientation was upright but when I downloaded them to the foreforum they flipped on their side.  Not all of the pictures did this, just the ones that appear narrow vs landscape.  Not important, just wondering.
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: JohnFitz on January 26, 2014, 05:01:52 pm
Bob & Faith,
It looks great.
I see pictures of what looks like a painted wall and a wall with backer board.  Most coaches of your vintage originally have walnut walls.  Can you describe what you started with and how your prepared it before actually tiling?
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: Wattalife54 on January 26, 2014, 05:26:21 pm
John & Tina,

Our bathroom walls have a formica type material laminated to plywood. We were originally going to use a mastic adhesive for tiling, but roughing up the surface for a good bond proved to be unsatisfactory. Bondura  adhesive is recommended over laminate and once in place is nearly impossible to remove.
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: JohnFitz on January 26, 2014, 09:40:05 pm
John & Tina,

Our bathroom walls have a formica type material laminated to plywood. We were originally going to use a mastic adhesive for tiling, but roughing up the surface for a good bond proved to be unsatisfactory. Bondura  adhesive is recommended over laminate and once in place is nearly impossible to remove.
Learned something new.  I looked up Bondera and looks like a great solution.  Here's a link for other's who might not be familiar with it:  Bondera Tile Mat Set - Do it Yourself Tile Adhesive On a Roll (http://www.bonderatilematset.com/index.html)
Thanks.
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: John Haygarth on January 26, 2014, 11:21:13 pm
 Bob & Faith, using the mastic ( a good one like Custom Products) is fine on the walls and will set and hold very well. I have (and many other tilers too) tiled over a previously ceramic tiled wall in bathroom showers and with no problems what so ever, and the tile is hard and glossy faced. The Bondera is quicker without a doubt but you can do it with mastic too, and that is what I did on the walls of the 240 bathroom back splash.
John H
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: fouroureye on January 27, 2014, 07:36:16 am
John H,

To their instal I understood over laminate. Would mastic work as well?
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: Wattalife54 on January 27, 2014, 08:39:31 am
John H,

Mastic would have been my first choice, except for the following  reasons:

1. Most Experts that I found on the internet do not recommend tiling over laminate. The ones that do, state that roughing up the surface is a must for a adequate bond. I tried several methods of roughing the surface and could not achieve a satisfactory surface profile.

 2. The location (Tucson) that I did the installation is very dry. Great for using products that need to dry quickly. Unfortunately I am not the fastest tiler in the world. Additionally all of the cuts that needed to be made slowed the process even more. I did not want to apply a sheet and have to wipe the mastic from the open areas. Bondura enabled me to take my time and not rush the job.

3. This installation is in a motorhome, which is subject to a considerably more vibration than house.

Bob
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: fouroureye on January 27, 2014, 09:05:26 am
Bob,

I got that. "Smart tiles" uses a similar product to bondura for their peel and stick tiles, but they do not recommend over laminate.

Mastic is very sticky stuff I dont undrrstand the "rough" up since it will stick to ceramic or porcelain tile.

Anyway your  install looks good, like you said lots of cuts. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: Wattalife54 on January 27, 2014, 09:14:41 am
Hey John,

That was a response to John H. Forgot to put the "H"
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: fouroureye on January 27, 2014, 09:30:07 am
L O L, it could be worse.. :))
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: John Haygarth on January 27, 2014, 12:38:14 pm
 Bob, to answer your Q, we are also "dry" here and you do not have to put Mastic on all the wall, just the area you can comfortably do in 10 mins or so.
I, as I said, have done tiling over the FOT laminate walls in our 2 coaches and my Brothers bathroom wall and all I do is clean with a strong TSP and hot water mix, then clean water. In our 295 if you remember I had tiled and Ruth wanted it changed a Year later and believe me getting those glass tiles off was not easy. These coaches do not really "move about much" as far as walls are concerned, and the floor Tile I put in 3 yrs ago in Bathroom and kitchen still do not have any grout cracks (I did put a 3/8 sub floor that was glued and stapled).
I have tiled many many thousands of SQ ft in my time and have not had any complaints so I guess I have "some" experience !!!
John H
Title: Re: Bathroom Tile Renovation
Post by: Wattalife54 on January 27, 2014, 01:40:12 pm
OK John H.

Different strokes for different folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bob
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