I saw this coach at FOT a few weeks ago and emailed Tyle Fore about it but it disappeared off the web site before I was able to call him. It was listed at FOT for $57k. Now it is listed at MOT for $89.5k. Anyone know any info on this one? Just curious.
Mark
1999 Foretravel U320 40 Priced at $ 89500 (http://motorhomesoftexas.com/coachrv/foretravel/1999--u320--40--P1147)
Seems to be a nice party coach. No dinette
Bob
Hum, nice coach I'd bite for 57k
After just walking in the door from five days in our coach and looking at the pictures of the coach I am not sure if we would like it at any price.
Anyone have the same coach and tell me how they use it?
Bob
There is quite a history behind this coach. We walked through it with David while at MOT a few weeks ago, and got the whole story. MOT is quite proud of this coach.
The coach was renovated several years back to be used as a show coach to show what types of upgrades MOT can do. Everything inside this coach was done by David. He even designed an amazing mechanical pull out flat screen television that can be enjoyed from the outside of the coach. One thing that I was particularly impressed with, is that they removed every brass/gold piece of hardware in the entire coach, and replaced it with brushed nickel/silver. Even the closet and shower!! It is true that this coach won't float everybody's boat, but we were impressed with the level of attention and pride that was poured into this coach by MOT.
They ended up selling the coach before it ever made it to a show, and that buyer recently traded it in at FOT. MOT swooped in to get it, since they put so much blood and sweat and tears into her. I am glad to see it up on the website for sale.
This is a very nice coach. My only issue is there is no place for a sit-down dinner. The price may be a bit if not a lot out of whack as well.
Agreed. It does look like it would be easy to use some sort of long folding dining table in between the two couches, but not an ideal solution for lack of access once it's set up.
I spoke to Stewart at MOT and he gave me the same story as Siren. Looks to be very nice but not sure if it would work for my family. The price seems a bit high
I'm trying to learn all I can in case we ever pull the trigger on a newer coach. I'm not as experienced as are most of you. So, I'm curious as to what about this coach's arrangement would make it that hard to live with, expecially for a couple not full-timing. I understand the lack of a dinette table is a problem, but is there anything else that raises a caution flag?
MOT has another 40' 1999 U-320 with what appears to be the same arrangement, except that it has a dinette. It is priced at $10,000 less than the U-320 in question, but it doesn't appear to have any upgrades. Both may be a little overpriced. I'm afraid I would have been really, really interested if I had seen it for $57,000 at FOT.
If I could get my wife to re-consider a non-slide coach I'd be negotiating seriously on one of these two coaches. From what I've read here, by 1999 Foretravel had incorporated just about all the desireable features. I understand that by 1999 all coaches had double-pane windows, manibloc water system, curved roof, ducted air, wider entry door, a screen door, bus-style bay doors, and 10,000 lb towing capacity. My U-240 has none of these but comments here made me put them on my list of "desireable features" for the next coach.
Anyway, I made a detour to stop by MOT and check out this upgraded 1999 U-320 on my way back from Dallas a few days ago. The coach was not there, and I was told it was in the paint shop for a little touch-up work. I live close enough to Nacogdoches that we may make a ride back up there just satisfy my curiousity.
Glen
We have now had two Foretravels with tables.
Never once did we have a meal at the table in the U225. I think I sat down once or twice to do something, but it was tight. We were looking at removing and doing the side wall desk top under the window when we bought the newer coach. Two years, 150 nights.
With our newer U295, again, we are yet to sit for a meal at the table. We have used the table for card games, or Mexican Train, or additional counter space only so far. We are use to balancing a plate on our laps or in our hand. We removed one booth seat to open up our floor space for the beautiful Lazy Boy rocker/recliner that came with the coach.
We carry two folding tv tables, and they are sometimes used inside, but more outside with camping rockers on the patios. For us conversation and some smaller amount of TV viewing are more important than table surfaces.
We use our table regularly. While it would certainly be possible to get by without one, we would not want to do so. For us, at least, a table would be a must-have item.
In the coach, we always sit at the table for meals. At home we only use a table for dining if we have guests.
At home, the television is on a lot. Our coach has two analog TVs that are currently pretty much non-functional.
I guess being brought up in England we always sit at the table to eat and the TV goes off at meal times(or record) so a dining area for us is used. In the 240 the Corian top was so big it was tough to get into that space so that is why I took that off and made a narrower Butcher Block one instead. Now you can get in there!! I think FT could have used some better thinking in a lot of the models regarding the living room furniture as most chairs are too big for that area. I like the one that Kent has (and others I am sure) as it is comfortable and yet does not take up much room.
John H
All with dual pane windows, ducted air, and I believe screen doors by 97'. The U270 has never come standard with bus style bay doors. But with Foretravel, never say never because there will be the odd one out just to confuse thins... :-\
Don
We paid less than 89.5K 5 years ago for a similar coach, including MOT installed tile everywhere except bedroom plus MOT added computer desk and MOT added file cabinet.
best, paul
I noticed in the list of equipment that it has a third sewer dump valve. What is the purpose or use of that? I wonder if that was a work around for some problem.
Many of us have installed a third sewer dump valve. It acts as safeguard to insure that we don't get an unpleasant surprise when the take off the sewer cap. It also allows us to easily back flush the black tank by closing the third valve and opening the gray water valve for a few seconds to push the gray water into the black tank resulting in a much better and faster cleanout than using a hose to back flush. And most of us have replaced the white Thetford bayonet ring with the more commonly available Valtera bayonet connector during this upgrade.
In my opinion it is one of the handiest and least expensive upgrades on can make.
We use the dining table a lot. We use it to stage when cooking, play games and eat (when skeeters abound). That's not to say that the coach in question cannot be modified to include a J-Lounge type table as many Foretravels do.
Oh...another inconvenience of this parlor layout is that every seat has to have a twisted neck to watch TV.
agree, we did both on our coach, nice to buy Walmart hoses now when in a pinch, and love the third valve
Third valve:
I bought a third valve that can be hooked onto my discharge connection if I want or need to for any reason. I replaced my white end as well, and mounted it just a little off 0 degrees, so the third valve handle does not get in the way of my shore power hookup. The removable third valve can be left in place till I can repair one of my main dump valves. Just options, and like Kent said I can back flush if needed.
I installed a third valve also. Very nice if you are camping without a sewer hookup and the last night at the site, you run out of room in the black tank. Do you unhook and go empty out, or do you just open the two valves and let the tanks balance out. You sure know that I just let the tanks balance out and go empty out in the morning before pulling out onto the road. It has gotten me through that extra day several times.
And I'd love a dinette table. Just have the hide-a-table, and the single bench between counter and couch. That bench is way to small for the both of us! But I can squeeze in there and use it as a computer desk.
Our 2004 U270 has bus style bay doors.
Larry
The newest U270 I have seen in person was a 2002 and it did not have bus style doors. Perhaps they started including them by 2004 or was ordered as an option... That is the one option (if they even offered it back then) that I regret the previous owner didn't choose...
Don
We love our hide away table in our U225; we eat on it all the time. Got to have a table to sit down to eat. Christmas day we used it to wrap last minute gifts too. It was priceless this year when we took of to go down to Grandmothers farm for Christmas, we were not rushed and had plenty of room to cary all the gifts & did not have to rush to wrap them.
Table not critical. Most everyone in our crew likes to eat on couches anyway or outside. Only use the table to eat if it is bad weather.
David
We have a desk with our PC mounted on the wall and a small stool instead of the chair. Our table top slides and is large. Because it slides I am moving it closer to the j couch to make more room in that walk area. It is floor mounted. We have discussed many times to remove it, but we always use it. So I'm trying the move first so we find what we like before installing a new floor. Also installing third dump valve for all of the above reasons.