This should, perhaps, be broken up into a couple of different topics, but since they are all occurring to me at roughly the same time I thought I'd roll them all up into one post.
As I read more about Foretravel (mainly here on this forum), I am taken with the apparent style and quality of these coaches (and, by extension, their owners). A new or newer FT is not in the cards, but a gently loved older coach may one day be a possibility. With that in mind, a few questions for those of you more knowledgeable in FT matters.
When did the first Foretravel model with a slide come out? I'm almost positive my wife will insist on a slide when the time comes to buy our first coach. (We currently have a fifth-wheel.) Assuming I can get her to consider an older coach, I would like to find out when model year range I might be looking at. This question will help me figure out the starting year.
Second, when the 36-foot models end production, if they did? Based on our discussions and desires, my wife and I are pretty well agreed that we want a shorter coach (i.e., 38 feet or less). Ideally, this would be in the 35-36 foot range but could possibly stretch to 38-feet. This leads me to ask when were the 38-foot models introduced? Are they still in production? These questions will help me determine the ending year of my date range also taking our budget into consideration.
Next, are there any model years that have proven to be better (or worse) than other years? For instance, I had someone on another forum recommend the 1997-2001 model years as perhaps my best bet. When we are ready to buy, perhaps in 2016, our budget may also allow 2002-2004 models to be considered. Are there any years I should stay away from?
Final question. Whatever coach we buy, be it FT or SOB, will also likely be the coach we begin our full-time RV adventure in (perhaps by 2019). What, if any qualms would you have about full-timing in a 15-20 year old FT coach?
Apologies for the length of this, but as you can see, I have been doing quite a lot of thinking and realizing that I have more questions than answers. :) Thanks for any answers you can pass my way.
Dear Walt,
The first slides were about 2001, at that time or a little before they redesigned the coach with a new type of rear cap. This engineering caused the cap to crack at the seam and they stood behind every coach, repairing and reengineering their cap design. Our coach is 2004 with the reengineered back cap which has never had a problem. Our life style is changing and we most likely will be consolidating things in the next year, if you are interested in a like new 36, w/ slide, cummins 450 (I think), 45,000 mi. about, parked at home north of Chicago near Wisc. rhsmms@comcast.net or 847-989-2159,847-362-0261. Questions welcomed via E mail.
Hi Walt,
If you haven't checked this site out it has just about everything about Foretravels.
Foretravel Motorhome technical help and information links (http://beamalarm.com/foretravel-links/foretravel-technical-help.html)
Looks like the first slide options were available on the 2000 models. The slide mechanism changed over time. The 2000 model had seals that were much harder to service. The 2001 slides were better.
36' coaches were available in several models up to about 2005. The U320 models had 36' until 2002. In 2003 they went to the 38'. It appears that the 38' coaches are fairly rare.
The U320s had a interior update in 2001, new ceiling and dash.
Time to start studying. Options, standard equipment, engines, transmissions, heat, cooling and floor plans change from year to year. Happy hunting!
Roger
I'll take a look at that site. Thanks for the link. Even if, ultimately, my wife (the real boss :) ) decides we need to go with a newer SOB, this should make for interesting and entertaining reading.
There is no "horrible year" Foretravel. I always tell folks to identify the budget they want to spend, then buy the year Foretravel that fits it, allowing some funds for little issues, tires, batteries, or remodeling "needs". I loved my 1990 (and still think of it as a wonderful coach), and I love my 2002, which will likely be my last coach.
The 2002's have been maligned due to the aforementioned end-cap issues, which were cosmetic and, once fixed, they pose no problem. Also relative to the 2002, they used an HWH "Train" system to control the slide for only one year. (Country Coach also used that system for a time...I'm not sure how long.) I have no idea whether it was discontinued because it was too expensive to include in the manufacture...or if they found a better idea. I do know from personal experience that the Train system is easy to diagnose and repair if needed.
Actually they started one slide in 99 and they went to two in 01. There were loads of 36 footers made as well as 40s but less 42 and 34 foot. They made 8 38 foot slide coaches though they made then in the old Grandvillas style. The slide on the 99-01 is the same. In 02 they changed it.
In 2003 they were finished experimenting on slides with heavy reinforcements, with trains, and with locking pins, I like 2003 or later for that reason.
John, I recall being told they made 12 or 14 SE 1999 with the LR slide. So
While the first year, were rare. I do not recall the ratio of slides built to non slides for the 1999-2001 era coaches. I thought that end caps were not issues before 2002 as they used the molding before 2002.....right?
I may be wrong but I recall reading that the 2000 slides had to be removed with a forklift to change the air bladder and in the 2001 the slide will move in far enough to change the air bladder without removing the slide. So far I have had good fortune with the slide and with our 2001 overall.
Roger
We have had a 1990 36' Grand Villa for the last two years and absolutely love it! Bought it with 146,000 miles on the Cat 3208T engine. I would not hesitate to take off to Alaska in this coach even though it is 24 years old. We have remodeled the interior, but all the original mechanical systems work well. It gets between 9-10 miles per gallon at 75 mph on the interstate. These older Foretravel coaches are all mechanical and very reliable. I have put about 10,000 miles on the coach since purchase and have had no problems with it. We regularly take it up to the factory for service and really enjoy the way we are treated there. Great coach, great builder.
We like our Foretravel so much that we have just upgraded to a 1996 U320 40'. I suppose the first sign of old age dementia is owning two motor homes!
I for one like the older, simpler coaches--- less to break.
Roger I have a 2001 and. Need to pull my slide with a forklift too.
Great stuff! Appreciate the input and insight. I think if a Foretravel is in our future it will be a 36-foot model, since it sounds like there weren't many 38-foot models produced. Are 36-foot models still produced aside from special orders? if not, when did they go out of regular production?
To those of you with older coaches, a big part of me wishes I could go that route as I do like the unique styling and lower profile. However, I doubt I could convince my DW even if there were one close by for her to walk through and see the quality.
Slides on a few 1999 U-320 Special edition - most 2000 and on had slides
had a 36 and now have a 40 - those 4 feet not significant - find a well maintained coach in the 36- 40 foot range that you like and buy it - maintenance history and use, floor plan and availability more important than size - if you are to narrow on your aiming point, you may wait a long time for a coach to come along, especially if you are not will ing to travel very far on your search
1999 - 2001 probably best years, plus a lot of units to pick from - 2002 and 2003 had end caps issues - most have been addressed by now
Good luck, and welcome to the Forum!!!!!
Thanks, John. I learn something every day. It was probably wishful thinking than made me hear differently. I hope I don't get to experience that extraction. So far very good.
Roger
The pulling the slide rom is not too bad but the 1800 bucks for the. hWH inner tubes is a bit steep.
"What, if any qualms would you have about full-timing in a 15-20 year old FT coach?" We bought our 1993 U300 40' coach a little over a year ago to be our full-time coach. We've been living in it pretty much full-time since January while we wait for our place to sell. We did a LOT of research prior to buying, and we think we got the right coach.
Gary Bouland has a 36' U280 for sale - in Georgia. Probably too far to go just to take a look, but his coach is the one that told us a GV was the right choice for us.
Thanks for that. It's very encouraging. I think FT is rapidly moving up on my mental list of possible coaches, which went from two brands (Newmar and Tiffin) to five (in alphabetical order: Country Coach, Foretravel, Newmar, Tiffin, and Winnebago). Seems I should be narrowing the list, not expanding it. Hmmm . . . . Now if I can just get the DW to see what I'm seeing. :D
Walt,
We have been TT people for the last 15 or so years and just bought our FT a year ago after almost buying a Tiffin. I cant say enough good things about our 25 year old coach over the 10 year old Tiffin we were looking at. Coupled with this forum and all the knowledge and good people here...Priceless.
One other point...Factory support. I had great factory support on a 25 year old coach. The factory fabricated a fiberglass piece for my coach after a roadway incident instead of the repair shop because as the repair shop said....."The factory said they wanted to make sure the part was correct" and shipped them the part for install. Name another manufacturer that would do that for a 25 year old coach...doubtful!
Happy searching!!
Thanks for the info! I've read some wonderful things about FT support of its older coaches. I know Tiffin has a reputation for great customer service, even with its older coaches, which is the only reason it is still on the list. Some of the stories I've read about the recurring problems Tiffin has had over numerous model years (wet bay, roof rail, driver's side slide issues) have moved them to fifth place of the five brands on my list. Thanks again.
Our short list in order:
Foretravel
Country Coach
Newmar
Beaver
Tiffin
Newell and Prevost were too pricey for us.
Of course some years of each brand were better than others. The others were on the long list but were eliminated upon further examination of their websites and talking to owners. Funny thing was, when talking to owners of the coaches on our short list probably 8 out of 10 would not purchase their existing coach. When asked what they would buy the Foretravel name was usually mentioned.
We like our 36' but would have purchased a 40' if one was available in our time frame. 42' and longer were not considered as we perceived them to be too long.
I guess great minds think alike :D as four of your brands are also on my list. I had seen Foretravel mentioned on some other forums and had someone there recommend I take a look at them. Until that point, I had not considered FT because I didn't think I could ever afford one, not realizing how good they continue to look a decade or more after manufacture.
One thing I noticed in going from the 36' 1990 U280 to a 36' 2002 U270 was that with the front seats on the same level as the rest of the living area, it made it seem 2-3 ft longer. The front passenger seat easily is part of the living room when turned, but no so with the 1990 as it was higher. While I liked the overall look of the 1990 better, this layout has more useful room with the front entry as well as the chair.
That is part of what has me looking toward the "newer" models. The addition of a slide also seems like it would make it possible for the driver's seat to also be part of the living room, but I think most of the newer non-slide layouts I've seen have a second chair or recliner to use with the passenger seat, and that would be good enough for me.
Walt:
I also considered a 36 foot Foretravel because the 19 foot wheelbase makes it easier in tight spaces than the 23 foot wheelbase of the 40 foot. I bought a 40 foot.
In my opinion, for going full time, a 40 foot Foretravel is more practical than a 36 foot for two reasons:
ONE: a 36 foot Foretravel has only 60% as much basement storage as a 40 foot. I would not have sufficient storage in a 36 foot because I winter in California for the six winter months.
TWO: a 40 foot U320 has a great panty across from the refer, which a 36 foot does not have. I have run out of room in the pantry during winter months in California.
I did not want a slide due to the extra weight, extra maintenance, and the additional purchase cost. A Foretravel with a slide will sell for circa $40,000 more than a Foretravel without a slide (similar year, condition, mileage).
Hope this helps!
Well, I do like to eat :D so I do like the idea of having a pantry. At this point in time, though, my wife is pretty adamant about going to 40-feet. Our fifth-wheel is 34-feet, and I suspect she'd like to stay that length, though I think I could convince her to go 36-feet and maybe a little longer. I know four feet doesn't seem that much longer, but every time she sees a 40-foot coach she complains that they are too long and calls them "huge."
As far as slides go, I personally would love a no slide model for all of the reasons you mention. While she doesn't like the four-slide coaches, I think my wife does like the extra space a slide or two provides. Perhaps if and when I get her inside a no-slide FT, I can get her to keep an open mind about that.
Just get her in every FT you can find, all lengths. They are all big, but you will make a better long term decision if keep an open mind until you have been in a number of coaches of all lengths
Good advice. Thanks. I also think I need to get her to watch every Foretravel video I can find on YouTube, although she has already said she is sick of hearing the same eight bars of music over and over every time I play a video from MOT. :)
Look at a 2004 36' U270. They have one slide. They have a lot of the features that the earlier U320 and U295's had. They have the consolidated electrical/electronics bay, bus basement doors, batteries in easily accessible bays, powered shore power/water reels, Villa furniture, etc. We love ours.
I definitely agree with Tim. When we were shopping in 2003/2004, we had an idea in our minds of what we wanted. After seeing coaches in person, some things changed. And then the unexpected coach showed up for sale and the rest is history.
10+ years later we haven't seen another coach that suits us as well as the one we bought (which had different wood and a different bath layout and was longer that we were originally looking for ;) ) With our latest remodeling, we'll probably have it another 10+ years or more since it's even more "us".
A little different twist, my brother sold foretravel MHs at the factory location in Nacogdoches, Texas. He sold for them during the late 80s and late 90s. Some of you may have brought a MH from him. I remember when he told me about a morning meeting where he suggested that FOT should put a slide in a motorhome. He was mad when he told me at lunch because everyone told him that it would not work and FOT would not do that. I love my 95 U240 with not slides. Lot less to worry about at setup and gettin ready too leave. No worry in tight spaces either. I have had mine for 7+ yrs, 80k miles to start, 126k now with no running gear problems, three(3) blowouts(newbie problem), cooling unit for Refig.(running unlevel in walmart parking lot). I get 10mpg towing or not, 2 gts oil per tank of fuel. I just got back from Galveston, Texas where 2 people just as I drove in came up and complemented me on my 95 U240 and how good it looked and sounded.
Some good advice and comments from everyone here. A member not too far from us has an FT. If we can work things out, I may bring my wife to take a look. Because we are both still "working stiffs," seeing a large number of coaches other that what the various local dealers have on their lots will be tough. Thanks again to everyone for their suggestions and advice. It is much appreciated.
We stumbled upon and bought one of the few 38' Foretravels with one slide and no tag axle, a U295. The interior feels like a 40' Foretravel, same living room, same pantry across from the refrigerator, same gigantic bathroom. Only thing missing I can see is the second pantry next to the refrigerator. Not having a bedroom slide, we have windows on both sides of the bed. Not having a tag axle, the bay storage is about the same as a 40' with tag. And the 2003's are especially nice looking with no visible seams on the end caps.
Sounds like a great coach. Guess I'd better keep my eyes open. :)
Walt,
Before you buy anything, especially a SOB, try to get to Nacogdoches ("Meccadoches") TX and visit MOT to see there inventory as well as FT' inventory of used coaches (MOT will have SOB's too now). Â Spend a couple of days there and make sure you take a factory tour. (BTW - you could probably trade your 5'ver in at MOT and maybe FT, not sure).
If you go through Houston and rent a car, the drive isn't to bad from the airport. Â Either leaving or coming back to Houston, you can also stop by PPL motorhomes - they do strictly consignment - all brands, often a few FT's there as well.
Good luck in the hunt!
Thanks. I do look at both FOT and MOT listings, almost daily (even though we can't yet pull the trigger on anything - I must be a glutton for punishment), and I do check PPL Motorhomes' website a few times a week.
The ability to consider a coach further way is one thing that does worry me a bit. Since we both still work full-time, I envision it as being hard to get away to see any coach halfway across the country. So far, I'm also not impressed with what is on offer closer to home. How do people manage that aspect of buying? Seems like someone would need to have their mind pretty well made up to buy the coach before making the trip. I guess I still have some time to work that one out.
You may have to invest some time and $$$ to bag a FT. Think of it as part of the adventure and embrace it. FT quality of product and owners means most all of the used stuff out there is sound and had good maintenance. Develop a phone relationship with a sales professional at both MOT an FT. Discuss the coaches you like from there listings and you can develop a relationship. Almost all coaches are sold at a distance, with a fully refundable deposit based on inspection and test drive. I live in Chicago and bought two from MOT while sitting in Chicago.
Interesting theory about compressing the luan to show the steel framing structure... I have a different theory though. Here are some pictures of a plug that I cut out of the side of our coach (99' U270). You can see the layers. It is as Bob says a vacumm laminated construction. Looking from left to right; thin layer of gel coat, laid up fiberglass (about an eighth inch), half inch of some sturdy brown foam insulation of unknown (to me) composition, one inch of the usual blue rigid styrofoam insulation, a 1/16" of fiberglass sheet material (such as lines the basement and compartment walls) and finally, the ¼" luan. There was some vinyl wall paper covering the luan, but I peeled it off. I expected this plug to delaminate just from taking it out of the hole saw. I was not particularly gentle in prying it out. Once out it was set aside and left outside for several days. After finishing the washer/dryer install, I picked it up and tried to twist it apart like an oreo cookie. No dice! I sanded the edge of it with a belt sander and it still felt solid... I decided it was a nice testimony to the quality of construction of our coaches. One day while I was gluing new insulation into the basement framing while doing my bulkhead repairs, I had some extra epoxy so I coated the exposed edges just for the heck of it. Long story short, it is a very sturdy piece and I doubt that the vacuum bag crushed or compressed the luan, which is only on the inside wall layer. The outer layer of gel coat and laid up fiberglass (I asked Rance at Xtreme about this layer...) is very strong and in my opinion, certainly virtually incompressible via vacuum bagging. I can stand on the plug and it feels as solid as a chunk of solid wood. No, I think that the metal structure (steel in the side walls and aluminum in the roof) visibly telegraphs when moisture condenses on it, usually early in the morning or at night when the dew point of the metal is reached before the interstitial space between it. At least I can only see the structure clearly at these times, or on the roof when dirt sticks to the moisture and leaves a residue behind.
Just my opinion... though I completely concur with gist of your post Bob, Foretravel is definitely the steak, and for my taste, just the right amount of sizzle ^.^d
A note about the picture with the magnet... The side wall structure has some horizontal members in it as well as diagonals. The magnet is sticking to one of the horizontal members in the closet area from underneath. I used magnets on the inside and out to try and locate the dryer vent hole. It was nerve wracking to drill this giant hole in my sidewall, so I was gratified to miss the structure, even though I needed to be as high and close to it as I could get. As you can see by the fact that the magnet sticks there, yet in the picture without it, the steel frame is not showing at all... whew!
Don
Good suggestions. I have already planted the seed in my wife's mind regarding the possibility/likelihood that whatever coach we buy will not be found locally and that we will likely have to look further afield to find what we want. I'll have to work on stretching her geographical search area to include Texas. :)
Walt when I was looking at Foretravels, my wife was not yet on board. I took her on a long weekend to Galveston for a getaway. While we were there I convinced her to take a drive north to see a few Foretravels. She agreed BUT we were only looking! Well we went to MOT and FOT and found Our coach. Now we had seen enough of SOB so we knew. If you have been looking you will know when you first step in. We were not ready to buy yet but bought it( actually I said not yet she said yes,yes,yes.) and have not regretted it. It is our perfect for us coach.
Don, I believe you are spot on.
I cannot see any sign on the steel framing on mine except from condensing water where there is no room for insulation.
The blue foam is definitely low density Styrofoam there to provide insulation only. I believe the brown foam is higher density, there for strength and rigidity rather than insulation. This is another example is steak and not sizzle, going the extra mile where one Don with his hole cutter can see it.
When I was looking at the inside surface of the outer wall behind my refrigerator, I saw fiberglass, not luan. And the fiberglass was covered by a layer of flame resistant foam. Compare this with other manufacturers, where the entire refrigerator compartment is luan, which only gets more flammable with age.
Another telling comparison I noticed on a cable TV program was how the steel framing is a continuous cage on Foretravel, but not on the others. There, the wood floor is screwed to the chassis, then the aluminum framed walls are screwed to the wood floor. Wood is the intermediary. Even Airstream trailers are built that way.
Same here.
My short list was very short, I wanted semi-monocoque construction, outboard airbags, disk brakes, and retarder. My wife and I just went to kook, not buy. We needed to sell our old sob first.
The best laid plans...
We fell in love and owned two motorcoaches until the old one could be sold.
Well, my wife does have family in Alabama. Next time we can visit, perhaps a side trip will be in order. :D
So far, we have mostly been looking at floor plans to see what works and what doesn't and what we can make work with some minor modification. Not being all that mechanically inclined (to date, at least) I know enough to know what I don't know. That's why I've been reading forums here, there, and everywhere to learn what I can about the brands we have been considering. That's how I learned about the so-called "big three" issues with Tiffin motorhomes in the model year range we would be considering. It's also how I learned about the quality control concerns some Winnebago owners are expressing these days.
I've learned quite a bit (I think) reading through the various posts here, especially about the apparent special relationships owners have with their Foretravel coaches. I appreciate all of the comments, suggestions, and advice I have so far received.
I cannot say enough to convince future rv'ers to disregard the normal choices you would think are necessary and concentrate on the coaches actual construction.
Almost ever member here has had multiple rv's.
Most here would agree that a lot of SOB's have prettier fabrics, trick floor plans, even prettier cabinets. That's what sells the newby's
The idea I bought a 17 year old coach with known needed work(by me, not the previous owners btw)was based on 20 years Rv sales management experience.
Yes all the other brands structure tend to long term ownership issues.
Ever customer driving the SOB's versus a Foretravel noticed the no squeeks and rattles.
Old Country coach and beavers were very tight also.
Foretravels have insulated floors and in a unihome or unicoach the bottom of the compartments and the dividers themselves are foam insulated vacuum bonded assemblies.
That's why the bolts are visible under the coach. The sub assemblies are bolted not screwed together.
I certainly don't dispute the importance of anything you've said. However, the floor plan has to be something we can live with or modify to our satisfaction or the coach won't get purchased or used. Neither my wife nor I need a coach to be flashy, simply liveable. My wife, an industrial engineer by training, has worked in industry and has a pretty good eye for quality construction, but she also knows what needs for a coach to be liveable.
Because of my relative lack of mechanical expertise and ability, I do want a coach that is well-built, and I'm sure my wife agrees. However, since we will also be looking at it as a future home, those things do have to be taken into consideration. having said that, though, neither of us is big into frills or fancy designs. Simple lines suit us pretty well, and I have seen a number of Foretravel floor plans I could be happy living in.
Thanks for sharing your experience and expertise. It is appreciated.
Along that line, I saw a Prevost in the park the other day...could have been a mobile bordello with all the glitsy lights Marathon added and they had lit up.
That is one of the things that is drawing me to Foretravel - clean, simple lines, inside and out, especially in the mid and late 1990 models.
Walt, too bad I did not see you were in ID. I was just in ID and went down to Yellowstone. There were a number of FTs there in fact. I know of at least five coaches. There are coaches up in the PNW too. I would take the side trip if you can.
I know of one not too far from where I live. The owner, a member of this forum, has kindly offered to let me take a look at his 1991 FT. I'll be doing that tomorrow, and I'm looking forward to see a Foreteravel in person.
Once I can work Foretravel a bit more into the conversation at home about prospective coach brands to consider, we may start looking for side trips to take. I know there was a coach for sale in Kennewick, WA, but I since we aren't yet ready to buy, I haven't suggested that trip. I also think it's a little older than I can convince DW to go.
As a side note, I have to say how much I'm enjoying the conversation (and other conversations) on this forum. It has to be one of the friendliest, most approachable forums I've ever been a part of. Thanks for that.
Walt ---- We will be traveling thru Boise after labor day and would be happy to show you what our 91GV is like and discuss any issues that you are concerned about. If interested, send a PM and we'll make arrangements. Thanks and have a great day ---- Fritz
Walt, when we were finally ready to buy we were down to 5-6 coaches. There was one Foretravel on the list that was only about 300 miles from us, so Jo Ann agreed to a quick trip down "just to look." On the way home she said, "I'm unhappy." I asked the reason and she said, "I really like it, and I didn't want to." A few days later we called the seller and made an offer. They immediately agreed. A couple weeks later we brought it home.
Good to know. I think if and when the opportunity to see a Foretravel for sale comes around (and we are ready to buy) my wife will see what I've already seen. She knows what she likes, but she also knows quality when she sees it. If anything, she's tougher to please from a quality standpoint than I am.
Our 1995 U320 doesn't have a slide, but the driver's seat does swivel and it makes a very nice part of the living room. Based upon our experience, I believe you shouldn't hesitate to buy a non-slide coach. For entertaining, our floor plan can easily accomodate three on the coach and one each in the driver's chair, the co-pilot's recliner and the additional swivel easy chair.
Thanks for the information on the driver's chair. I'd seen the co-pilot's seat swiveled around to become part of the living area in various pictures of non-slide coach interiors, but I have never seen the driver's seat turned to become part of the living area. Good to know that is a possibility.
I personally to like the idea of a non-slide coach and certainly don't want to rule them out. The "boss," however, may have other ideas. :D
"Thanks for the information on the driver's chair. I'd seen the co-pilot's seat swiveled around to become part of the living area in various pictures of non-slide coach interiors, but I have never seen the driver's seat turned to become part of the living area. Good to know that is a possibility.
I personally to like the idea of a non-slide coach and certainly don't want to rule them out. The "boss," however, may have other ideas"
Walt, I understand completely. I think I married your wife's sister! Given my 'druthers I would have one of the many fine 1997 to 2000 non-slide Foretravels I've seen at MOT and FOT. However my wife has a 50% stake in the decision and she is pretty well set on at least one, preferably two, slides. Also, if there is a Newell or other late-model high-end coach on the lot she is irresistably drawn to all the bling, lights, and mirrors. She freely admits that she is a big fan of the "Wow!" factor. :)
Good luck in your search. I'm learning a lot from all these discussions.
Glen
I think I am at least fortunate that my wife is not big into bling. She definitely wants something that is well-made and will last. I think that if I can find the right non-slide layout, I can get her on board. I think the interior storage will be more important to her than a slide, regardless. I could be wrong, though. it's been known to happen. :)
Let the Boss know slides mainly offer more floor space and do have their share of problems and disadvantages.
I'll do that. :) I don't think she requires too much floor space as she is not usually a fan of the four-slide coaches. We looked at one and I believe she felt as if she were in a ballroom and not a motorhome.
We turn the driver and navigator chairs 90 degrees when we're parked for more than just overnight. Last summer we had 10 people in our coach for a family reunion. We had to eat outside because there was too much food, but for visiting and looking at the slide show on the tv the coach was just fine. Everyone was impressed.
Thanks for that. Where is the TV located on your coach? We've always thought that a TV above the dash made for some awkward viewing angles, but I suppose it all depends on how the seating is laid out.