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Title: New floor
Post by: bbeane on July 25, 2014, 10:13:59 pm
About half way through new maple floors. Hard on the knees.
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: Mike Baldacchino on July 25, 2014, 10:33:39 pm
When I put down our new tile floor, it was the nice smooth curves around the cabinets and furniture that made life interesting.  Pulling the toilet was fun too.

What are you doing about the wires that are now exposed when you pulled the carpets?  I  ended up making walnut chases.  That was fun also.

Looks like you are doing better than a professional job.  Looks real good!  Hope it comes out perfect.

Mike B.
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: erniee on July 26, 2014, 07:21:06 am
Looks good, Bruce
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: Wattalife54 on July 26, 2014, 07:24:34 am
Looks great ^.^d
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: jtm2014 on July 26, 2014, 11:10:52 am

  Very nice job. Looks Great !!!
 
  There is always some renovations to be done on these coaches--as I am finding out> :)
 
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: Green99 on July 26, 2014, 03:37:44 pm
Bruce,
The floor really looks nice.  Post some more pics when you finish.
Did you consider tile?  What lead you to your decision?  Just curious.
Jerry
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: bbeane on July 26, 2014, 09:48:12 pm
Mike mine has a chase that goes from the door to the china cabinet on the curb side, probably going to remove the 1/8" Luan cover and replace it with a piece of flooring material, then get creative with the table saw and some kind of molding and stain. On the street side no chase wires just run under the couch, which is being recovered and going back in.

Jerry, we did talk about tile but it is cold on the feet. We dry camp a good bit so under floor heat is not really an option. Time was also a consideration, we have been talking about doing the floor for 5 years. We have to be moved into the coach full time in 2 weeks. I work better under pressure .
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: old 1320 on July 26, 2014, 11:57:40 pm
Nice looking job Bruce, just go easy on the knees.
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: bbeane on July 27, 2014, 08:28:55 am
Knees were done after the tear out, should get it done today.
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: erniee on July 27, 2014, 08:38:27 am
Bruce= more photos, please.
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: Green99 on July 27, 2014, 08:29:23 pm
Bruce,
Nothing like a dealine to get you motivated.  Tile is definitely cold on the feet.
Jerry
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: bbeane on July 30, 2014, 09:50:01 pm
Floors are done, reupholstered couch installed. Still need to do a little trim work, but we got to be in this weekend. New pics to follow.
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: John Haygarth on July 30, 2014, 09:53:28 pm
photos from phones are a pain to look at. Surely there is a way to fix that problem or  use a regular camera.
Nice floor though.
JohnH
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: bbeane on July 31, 2014, 09:34:23 pm
Well I'm not real good with a camera. A family member that is a cabinet and furniture maker is coming I've this weekend to trim out the floor, and measure for 2 new cabinets and cut down the front TV cabinet
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: onbus on July 31, 2014, 11:28:43 pm
Bruce, floor looks great! Who did your sofa and where did you find the fabric? Never seen anything like that,
Love the color and pattern.

Dan
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: bbeane on August 01, 2014, 05:52:00 am
Dan, We found the fabric at Joanns fabric and craft store locally, with coupons and instant discounts $20.00 per yard. We have enough left to redo the trim pieces around the windows.  The work was done by small upholstery shop in Osteen Fl, the guy did a great job. It took about 15 yards of material, labor was $500.00 lots of work on that couch. It comes apart in 6 pieces and has a drawer in the base. More of a job putting it back in than one would think. about 30 screws to hold it down, 10 bolts in the arms, folding brackets and holding the back to the brackets. Along with 3 heater ducts and vents, and the Bose base unit.
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: Green99 on August 01, 2014, 06:51:46 am
Bruce,
It all really looks nice.  I know your glad to get it finished.
Jerry
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: 93 unihome on August 29, 2014, 07:14:58 pm
Hi Bruce

Love this Maple it looks great!

I want to do the same in our GV  What product did you use?  Where can I get it?  Did you use Engineered or full thickness wood?

Ted 
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: bbeane on August 30, 2014, 08:47:53 am
Ted, we were in a time crunch bought "Bruce Lock and fold" 3/8 engineered from the big box store, and installed it floating. Not at all happy with the product. If I were doing it again I would use a nail or glue down product 1/2 solid. It was an adventure. Private message e your phone number I'll call you.
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: 93 unihome on August 30, 2014, 09:54:42 am
Thanks so much Bruce

I am getting the idea that glue down of full thickness HW flooring is the more recommended way.  Not sure why as Engineered wood appears at least theoretically to be more stable and I do not see it ever having to be sanded down as I may want to do in a house.

We just did our house with Homerwood maple and like it a lot Premium Hardwood Flooring by HomerWood (http://homerwood.com) so I probably will get their product [It does not have VOC so it passes the wife test]

Is there a regular sub floor under the carpet and is it a straight forward installation?

Will PM now, thanks so much for your help.

Ted
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on August 30, 2014, 02:00:47 pm
Looks great! Like the sofa fabric. Jo-Ann Fabric has a lot of good stuff. We are going to do our sofa this year and will get the material there. Has to look good but be dog proof. The floor would be nice also but when Koda slips, he digs his nails in and the parquet floor hides his marks. Love yours though.

Pierce
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: erniee on August 30, 2014, 04:29:07 pm
engineered wood is dimensionally stable, fact, not theory. The lock and fold stuff can be adhered and if you take off the little tab the material will act like tongue and groove and easier to work with
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: bbeane on August 30, 2014, 08:08:58 pm
Ted it's just a plywood sub floor, lots of staples to pull.
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: debnmike on August 31, 2014, 06:42:03 am
Beautiful!
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: Kemahjohn on August 31, 2014, 08:42:19 am
You are right about the staples!  When we re-floored, that was the longest part of the job, pulling thousands of staples.
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: bbeane on August 31, 2014, 10:14:45 am
The Bruce flooring we used was not the best, every piece over 18" long was bowed, and the end joints don't want to stay tight. Not real noticeable unless you look real hard. But still way better than carpet especially with the dog.
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: John Haygarth on August 31, 2014, 11:24:09 am
 Bruce, with all respect why on earth did you not get hold of Bruce or the resellers as 18" is very short to have bowing in anything larger. I would want it replaced before installing any more after finding this out.  I have installed many thousands of sq ft of all types of wood flooring in my reno days and that was the first thing to do -inspect it as once it's down too late. Same with ceramics. Sounds like it was stored somewere damp. Plus it should be placed in the area it is going for a few days to acclimatize.Bruce is a good name and that would not have passed inspection IMHO. I think the seller is responsible, but too late now.
JohnH
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: Kemahjohn on September 01, 2014, 11:35:15 am
That is why we went with the Congoleum Dura Ceramic.  Our coach is stored when not in use-- no heating or cooling in Texas, and the flooring folks warned us against wood due to expansion and warping due to temp/ humidity variations.  They claimed that most were designed for climate controlled environments these days.  We even saw some products that had disclaimers about RV installation.

All that being said, keep the AC on a few days and the warp will probably improve.  I did wood on my boat (Ipe and Maple) with similar problem.
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: fouroureye on September 01, 2014, 01:42:44 pm
Bruce, I know ir dosent matter now but did you staple it and glue it? ::)
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: Mike & Joanne Whitaker on September 01, 2014, 06:17:29 pm
Looks really good....we are thinking about removing the carpet and put down flooring but can't figure out how to remove the sofa.  How did you do that?

Thanks, Joanne
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: John Haygarth on September 01, 2014, 08:15:41 pm
 Guys, it is just held to the floor with long screws thru' the bottom frame. Bit of a pain to lift out and you may need help.
Johnh
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: bbeane on September 01, 2014, 08:32:15 pm
Joann, it is held to the floor with a bunch of screws. First the bottom and back unbolt from the sofa frame 1/2 (wrench size) 6 of them, lift the bottom you can see the bolts on the inside wooden frame. Then the back will come off with 4 more bolts. Once that is removed you will have access to the screws that hold the frame to the floor and wall. Ours on the drivers side came apart in 5 pieces. Pay attention which screws come out of the wall they are shorter than the ones in the floor.
Title: Re: New floor
Post by: bbeane on September 01, 2014, 08:42:05 pm
John, the flooring was in the coach 4 days before install. The reason it didn't go back is we had a little time crunch going on. Sold and moving out of the house, removing and installing the new floor, and a full service on the coach. All in 6 weeks and while still working 60 hours a week. I doubt Bruce would do anything about it if they found out it was in a motor home. The good news is it is starting to behave its self. We live in Florida so temperature and humility are all over the place constantly which doesn't help anything. If I where going to do it again I would probably use a 1/2" nail down product, gluing the floor down would work good but for the average wood butcher like me it would have to be cut and fitted then removed glue applied then reinstalled with a urethane glue. The floating deal is not bad once the edges are trimmed out and nailed down couch and computer desk reinstalled, and hey up side is if I ever want to change it won't take long to get the old out.