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Title: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Don & Tys on February 12, 2015, 04:12:49 pm
I don't usually post about Foretravel coaches for sale, but this one is very unusual... A 2000 single slide GV320 at PPL IN Huston for $69K. I just thought it interesting...2000 GV320 Houston (http://houston.oodle.com/r_dtmn_/3850309244-130p1139,19/www.rvtraderonline.com___3JPtiDNRYLPHgrDy63FVwgMKM5fwA4pBqIRuMfxDSNG7LYd2zpZFip68cmt740lk57B6o5fXDQBp4N3Qd6r2CpAvgrYArRDQSAHT1-kf_-fQ-NgKs1EnY4_IBp1mxZ_l)
Don
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Kemahjohn on February 12, 2015, 05:32:34 pm
I'm not absolutely certain, but I think this is the one I saw at the factory a few months ago having som slide mechanism work done.  If it is, Foretravel said it was one of the few made with a slide
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: fouroureye on February 12, 2015, 05:45:25 pm
Is it the same chassie as a u320?

Are the air bags inboard or like a no slide coach?

Looks like unusual layout..
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: wolfe10 on February 12, 2015, 05:58:23 pm
Is it the same chassie as a u320?

Are the air bags inboard or like a no slide coach?

Looks like unusual layout..
The 320 chassis were all 8 outboard air bags with the exception of the few with IFS.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: wa_desert_rat on February 12, 2015, 06:42:50 pm
Oh man! That's my NEXT coach!!! Too bad I'm not in any position to buy it. A mid-entry Grand Villa 320. Dare to dream!!!

Craig
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Kent Speers on February 12, 2015, 06:49:01 pm
We saw the coach last year. It looked pretty rough then but looks better in the photo. It's hard to argue with that price.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Tim Fiedler on February 12, 2015, 06:50:44 pm
AWESOME center entry
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Bill Chaplin on February 13, 2015, 08:08:47 am
That coach was in the enclosed lot @ Foretravel last year during Ladies Driving school. Also was @ at "Q" last year

Did not look inside, but the exterior looked great.

I think it is a 320 with a Grandvilla nose & rear caps.
The rest of the coach looks to be standard U320
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: fouroureye on February 13, 2015, 08:34:03 am
Brett, I thought w a slide, that changed the configuration?

Ok your the expert.. thanks.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Kemahjohn on February 13, 2015, 08:51:18 am
If it is the one I saw in the shop, it was very rough inside, the slide was removed, so it was easy to look inside.  Needed cleaning really badly.  I liked the design however.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: gootie on February 13, 2015, 09:54:19 am
Definitely keeping an eye on this coach as we approach our late May trip to TX. Also on watch list is the 2006 34ft triple slide at FT.
This getting exciting to finally make a move and get on the road.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: gootie on February 13, 2015, 10:00:34 am
Definitely keeping an eye on this coach as we approach our late May trip to TX. Also on watch list is the 2006 34ft triple slide at FT.
This getting exciting to finally make a move and get on the road.
Never mind. I used the FT reference link I think provided by Barry Beam anit looks as though 06 was last year for a 34
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Ed on February 13, 2015, 10:11:56 am

FT built at least one 40' GV320 with a slide and a tag.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Kent Speers on February 13, 2015, 11:31:06 am
Definitely keeping an eye on this coach as we approach our late May trip to TX. Also on watch list is the 2006 34ft triple slide at FT.
This getting exciting to finally make a move and get on the road.

Just a friendly little tip, a lot of people seem to be discovering the value in the used Foretravels. If you find one you like, you  probably need to jump on it. If they are priced right, they seldom stay on the market for months, sometimes only days. Most of us have had to travel a long way at an inconvenient time to get our dream coach.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Caflashbob on February 13, 2015, 12:17:52 pm
Flat floor mid door GV. 
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on February 13, 2015, 12:59:59 pm
Price seems low for a 2000 40 ft single slide U320.  It is not the miles.  If it is OK mechanically lots of money to spend on remodel. I would have guessed upper 80's to mid 90's?  But under $70K. 

Roger
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: wa_desert_rat on February 13, 2015, 01:03:43 pm
Price seems low for a 2000 40 ft single slide U320. 
It could be because of the GV (mid entry, bull nose) configuration. I think a lot of RV buyers still like the "bus" and front entry styles. Not so much with us FT folks. :D

Craig
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Kent Speers on February 13, 2015, 02:52:15 pm
Actually, my experience has been the 2000 +, GV320's draw a premium.  The last one I saw for sale in 2012, a 2003, I saw at FOT was priced about $10,000 more than an equivalent Unicoach and I think it sold very quickly.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: wa_desert_rat on February 13, 2015, 03:02:36 pm
Actually, my experience has been the 2000 +, GV320's draw a premium.  The last one I saw for sale in 2012, a 2003, I saw at FOT was priced about $10,000 more than an equivalent Unicoach and I think it sold very quickly.
But that could be because most people who truly understand Foretravels shop at FOT. At PPL.... not so much. :)

Craig
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: littledubz on February 13, 2015, 04:04:55 pm
Are there any differences other than style and a mid entry door?  Really seems a lot like a U320 to me.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Raymond Jordan on February 13, 2015, 04:24:55 pm
This style coach is almost identical to a bus style U 320. They all have the mid-entry door. This entry moves the passenger  seat closer to the windshield. Some like this, others do not. They are still great coaches. 

Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: TheBrays on February 13, 2015, 04:29:16 pm
I saw this coach at FOT early in the year when we had so much fun with the air dryer.
The paint job doesn't look like either Extreme or FOT. Not just the colors.....
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: J. D. Stevens on February 13, 2015, 09:23:03 pm
Definitely keeping an eye on this coach as we approach our late May trip to TX. Also on watch list is the 2006 34ft triple slide at FT.
This getting exciting to finally make a move and get on the road.

I visited the 2006 34' triple slide a couple of days ago. I liked the interior. There is almost no storage room in the basement. The only storage bay is about 48" wide and maybe 48" to 72" deep. All the other bays are filled with mechanical, electrical, water, and Hydro-Hot equipment. Overhead storage inside is limited because of all the slides. Be aware of the balances among features, e.g., floor space versus storage space. Different folk have different tastes and requirements.

The 2000 GV looks good in the pictures. The $20,000 to come up to "market" would allow one to do some renewal of the interior. We bought our first coach from PPL. We were pleased with the experience. We learned enough from the SOB in eight months to upgrade to a Foretravel of the same model year. The Foretravel has served us well for almost five years.

I enjoy looking at coaches. I enjoy having a functional coach with no mortgage on it.  ;D
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Kent Speers on February 13, 2015, 09:43:04 pm
I saw this coach at FOT early in the year when we had so much fun with the air dryer.
The paint job doesn't look like either Extreme or FOT. Not just the colors.....

I know the paint was not done in NAC. As I recall it was done in Colorado but it is definitely not Xtreme or FOT.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: ohsonew on February 14, 2015, 08:35:13 am
Just wondering, which tranny would this have, the 3000 or 4000 series. Since it is a GV would it be different than a standard 320 w/4060 tranny. I might also be wrong, but the comments sound like it isn't as impressive as the pictures might show???????

If the house sells this weekend (just wishing), I could be in Houston in 10 hrs. :))

Larry
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: ohsonew on February 14, 2015, 08:40:25 am
After looking @ Barry's site, in 2001 the GV used a 4000 tranny. Would assume similar to the 2000.

Larry
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Kevin on February 14, 2015, 08:48:35 am
Good Morning!  Looked at this coach yesterday at PPL.  If anyone is considering a trip to Houston on this one, shoot me a PM and I will provide additional details.

Take care.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Kemahjohn on February 14, 2015, 11:14:50 am
PPL sells them fast---- it probably won't be there long if it has been restored to decent condition.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: danieljeff545 on February 14, 2015, 09:17:36 pm
I soooooo wish I was ready for my next coach!  Sound like was could make a bidding war!
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: stump on February 15, 2015, 12:29:55 am
This is a nice looking unit,But does it have a oven? A stove? I don't see any kind of kitchen appliances. I guess people eat out. :o
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Rick on February 15, 2015, 07:41:57 am
This is a nice looking unit,But does it have a oven? A stove? I don't see any kind of kitchen appliances. I guess people eat out. :o
Two burner Gaggenau cooktop, convection microwave.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: John Haygarth on February 15, 2015, 10:19:33 pm
we will see what PPL is willing (and owner) to do as I sent them a cash "as-is" offer this morning but as they have not replied to my previous emails I guess they will not respond to my last one either.
JohnH
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: fouroureye on February 20, 2015, 10:24:52 am
Would this one have the front pull out 10 or 12k gen?

Is the tv mounted behind the co-pilot or near the windshield?
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Neal Pillsbury on February 20, 2015, 11:06:35 am
Would this one have the front pull out 10 or 12k gen?

Is the tv mounted behind the co-pilot or near the windshield?

Generally, U320's w/2 AC's have the 10KW.  Only 42' U320's w/3AC's have the 12 KW.

Generally, again, post '95 era GV's have the TV above and slightly behind the co-pilot's chair.  GV's also lose the storage above the windshield.

Haven't seen the coach, but would anticipate the above (and that's what it looks like in the PPL pictures).
Neal
 

Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: John Haygarth on February 20, 2015, 11:13:28 am
Neal is correct.
JohnH
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: fouroureye on February 20, 2015, 11:37:37 am
Otherwise its a 320? From the floor plan it dosent look like Barrys..

The gen set does pull out?
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: drcscruggs on March 02, 2015, 09:17:36 pm
FWIW,
noted the price dropped to 65K. 
Best of travels
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: John Haygarth on March 02, 2015, 09:50:31 pm
that happened over a week ago. I still have open offer on it.
JohnH
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: John Duld on March 03, 2015, 09:36:15 am
It would have to be a 4000 series transmission with that ISM engine.
A 3000 series transmission could handle the torque of an ISM.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: John Duld on March 03, 2015, 09:42:07 am
I ment to say a 3000 series transmission couldn't handle the torque of an ISM.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: wolfe10 on March 03, 2015, 10:28:38 am
Yes, all M engines come with the 4000-- no exceptions if it has an Allison transmission.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Tom Lang on March 03, 2015, 10:46:32 am
This rare FT really is a full-up U320 with a GV nose and mid entry.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: drcscruggs on March 03, 2015, 11:10:33 am
I haven't seen as I am very happy with my 96.  I think at first blush, seems like a very fair deal for a FT with a slide. 
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: fouroureye on March 03, 2015, 12:06:13 pm
Says.. exhaust brake-not retarder
Hmm pakbrake or jake?
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on March 03, 2015, 02:21:10 pm
Looking at the pix, it shows a retarder stick in the normal position.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: John Haygarth on March 03, 2015, 04:15:30 pm
PPL.is great for making stupid mistakes on info sheets. I have noticed that a lot on many coaches.
Just had a 94 240 GV brought to me so I can change out the charger/converter to the Progressive one to get rid of humming and better charge etc. So even here in Mexico I find work to do on them-amazing!
JohnH
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Bill B on March 03, 2015, 09:21:33 pm
Donna and I were at PPL today and took a quick look at this interesting coach.  It is a little rough looking at it.  Doesn't look like the bests of care was taken. Partial paint job shows decal ghost where not painted and rubber deterioration were obvious.  Carpet stained in several places.  Can't speak for the mechanics but if price allowed for a little remodel and you love GV's?..WOW, what a unique coach you would have.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: D.J. Osborn on March 04, 2015, 10:00:50 am
Donna and I were at PPL today and took a quick look at this interesting coach.  It is a little rough looking at it.  Doesn't look like the bests of care was taken. Partial paint job shows decal ghost where not painted and rubber deterioration were obvious.  Carpet stained in several places.  Can't speak for the mechanics but if price allowed for a little remodel and you love GV's?..WOW, what a unique coach you would have.

My big concern would be all of the things you can't see. My philosophy has been that if you can evaluate the previous owner then you can get a good idea of the vehicle you are evaluating. In this case, the previous owner isn't available and it appears as if he/she didn't give the coach the proper care. That would really concern me. Unless I could get the coach at a rock-bottom price, and then had plenty of time, money and patience to bring it up to an acceptable condition I wouldn't buy it.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: jcus on March 04, 2015, 02:54:21 pm
Also looked at it, today, great floor plan, but looks  "rode hard and put up wet".
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: fouroureye on March 05, 2015, 04:40:09 pm

FWIW I spoke with Sam@ dealership.. airbags curb rear bad, carpet patched in, bathroom issues. Exterior paint, amature, slide-they havent had it out.. blinds maybe valances may need replaced looks like grease..

Too much for me
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Benjie Zeller on March 12, 2015, 06:12:45 pm
I'd buy this thing, use as is, and resurrect it over time if its decent mechanically but $60K is already stretching my budget and I'm worried mechanical issues on something this rough would pop up as they always do causing it to sit and just get worse until I could replenish the coffers.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Mike Brez on March 15, 2015, 05:01:32 pm
I don't like anything about it.
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: turbojack on March 15, 2015, 06:15:30 pm
I'd buy this thing, use as is, and resurrect it over time if its decent mechanically but $60K is already stretching my budget and I'm worried mechanical issues on something this rough would pop up as they always do causing it to sit and just get worse until I could replenish the coffers.

I have only bought one motor home over the last 40 years that I did not have to spend any money on after I bought it to make it usable. That was the last one I bought. It had been upgraded at FOT a year before I bought it and the previous owner fell in love with one with a slide at FOT when he had it there for service.

If paint job is any indication of the shape of this unit I would plan on spending some money after you get it. If you are maxed out just buying it I would NOT buy this coach. 
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: fouroureye on March 23, 2015, 07:29:38 am
Site says... no longer listed
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: John Haygarth on March 23, 2015, 12:14:38 pm
 Yes it sold.!
JohnH
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Michelle on March 23, 2015, 12:15:49 pm

New project, John?
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: John Haygarth on March 23, 2015, 12:21:46 pm
Actually no Michelle, it was not me darn it. I did make an offer on it though a while back. I will find out what it sold for and see how far out I was.
JohnH
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Don & Tys on March 23, 2015, 01:05:09 pm
Well John,
2000 GV320 at FOT (http://www.foretraveloftexas.com/view-inventory.php?id=625)
There a 2000 GV320 at FOT now :D Only thing, asking price is $109 ::)  Looks like a better example of the late GV's. Appears to have had headlight conversion, I expect the graphics are painted on...
Don
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Mark D on March 23, 2015, 01:07:09 pm
That'd be worth like $85-90k to me.  But I like overpaying for things :-P
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: John Haygarth on March 23, 2015, 01:45:16 pm
Don, nice but I would have to do all the changes again to it I have done to our 295 so really it does not make sense to me. We like GVs but !! I will continue on with installing flooring etc then see.
JohnH
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Chuck Pearson on March 25, 2015, 05:23:26 pm
Well shoot.  I was hoping to see John document another of his high energy rebuilds. 
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Lynnsopwith on April 05, 2015, 11:48:40 pm
I Bought it, site unseen.  Big engine with retarder transmission, I expect to spend $ to bring it up to snuff. Hard to find GV320. We will see if it becomes a bottomless pit, or a good driver on a summer long trip. 
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Gary Bouland (RIP) on April 06, 2015, 10:10:51 am
Congrats on your purchase of this GV, these are so solid that I doubt that there is anything major on it.  I am jealous as this would be my ideal coach. Keep us posted .
Gary B
Title: Re: 2000 GV320 at PPL in Houston
Post by: Tigratrus on April 06, 2015, 11:25:12 am
Did you buy the GV320 here @FOT?  I was going to ask if anyone wanted any pictures of the one here.  It needs some cleaning inside and some basic interior maintenance, but overall it looks really nice and I have tho assume it would (to use a phrase from one of the FOT staff here) "Climb a tree" :-)

I have to say the front of the GV320 looks fabulous.  If anyone DOES want any pictures/details about it (or any of the other rigs here @FOT) please let us know, we're here with time on our hands.