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Title: Battery Charging
Post by: jtm2014 on March 09, 2015, 03:06:42 pm

  I want to charge the staring batteries and the house batteries in my coach before waking it from its winter sleep.
  Can I hook a battery charger up to the connections on the Battery isolator located under the bed?
  The starting and house batteries are not easily accessible on this 2003 U320.
  I did a search and I am confused and do not want to damage the electrical system.
              Thanks--Jim
Title: Re: Battery Charging
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on March 09, 2015, 03:38:36 pm
Why not just plug into shore power with your 50 amp cable or use an adapter into a 120V outlet if no 30 or 50 amp available? I plug a trickle charger into a coach outlet (in my wet bay) and then go into the electrical (the engine battery lug) bus just a few inches away so as soon as I plug into shore power, both house and engine batteries charge.

Pierce
Title: Re: Battery Charging
Post by: pocketchange on March 09, 2015, 03:54:24 pm
Will your generator start?  pc
Title: Re: Battery Charging
Post by: Horace B. Cupp on March 09, 2015, 04:29:58 pm
I, too, have a 3820 coach and those starter batteries are a challanged to acess.  As Pierce suggested, just plug into shore power with either a 50 or 30 amp source. Activate your "boost" switch and let it do it's thing overnight. No shore power, use your genset, get it warmed up, too.

Title: Re: Battery Charging
Post by: jtm2014 on March 09, 2015, 05:44:39 pm
  Thanks, Unfortunately I have no shore power at the storage location and the batteries have been disconnected since mid December.
  I thought it would be best to at least give them a charge with an external battery charger before trying to start onboard
  generator.
  I have a Honda EU2000i and the EU2000i Companion but have been unsuccessful in using the 30 amp adapter to get A/C
  power to the coach. I don't know if the onboard Prosine Inverter/Converter or built in surge protection is preventing A/C power
  to be supplied by the Honda's.
          I have an external Progressive EMS-PT50C which shows all ok from the Honda's.
 
  I know some have trickle chargers or battery tenders hooked up to the isolator and I would like to know if I can connect an external battery charger to the isolator without doing any damage.
            Thanks--Jim

 
Title: Re: Battery Charging
Post by: ltg on March 09, 2015, 06:41:17 pm
I do not have an answer to the question about the isolator. But, if the batteries were fully charged when put in storage. And by disconnected you mean the negative post to the batteries were disconnected. Then the batteries, after storage of only three months, should still be almost fully charged. I would simply test them with a volt meter. Then if showing a good charge, start the generator.
Title: Re: Battery Charging
Post by: jtm2014 on March 09, 2015, 06:45:33 pm

  Thanks--Yes they were fully charged before I disconnected the negative cables from both battery banks.
  Hopefully the house batteries will be in good enough condition to start the generator.
              Jim
Title: Re: Battery Charging
Post by: oldguy on March 09, 2015, 07:51:02 pm
If you are talking about the 30 amp plug on your honda that could be a 240 / 120 volt plug and you would have to make up your
own adapter. For charging you batteries just use the 15 amp 120 volt receptacle, those adapters are available in any RV store.
I would just try and start you generator, you won't hurt the batteries. It will either start the generator or not. Same thing with the engine. The best thing  is to keep them charged up and in your case go out and run you generator once a month. Don't forget to
load up your generator
Title: Re: Battery Charging
Post by: jtm2014 on March 09, 2015, 08:25:47 pm

  Yes, that sounds best.
            I will hopefully start the generator, charge up the batteries while taking a nice 2 hr round trip.
                            Thanks all for your help,  Jim
Title: Re: Battery Charging
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on March 09, 2015, 08:34:57 pm
Two hours will not fully charge your batteries.  Hopefully you can drive it to a location you can plug the 50 Amp cable into for power, then give it another 4-8 hours approx, depending on condition of the batteries.  Would expect they are not going to recover to a healthy condition.
Title: Re: Battery Charging
Post by: Michelle on March 09, 2015, 08:50:01 pm
Would expect they are not going to recover to a healthy condition.

Dave,

Even though they were fully charged first, then disconnected for storage?  We routinely do this with my car and our golf cart for the summer (longer than the 3 months the OP had his coach in storage) and neither have had a problem. 
Title: Re: Battery Charging
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on March 09, 2015, 10:58:14 pm
Michelle,  Good point, however I seem to have gotten the idea they were nearly dead, unable to start either the ISM nor the genset with the boost feature.  I do wish everyone good luck.
Title: Re: Battery Charging
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on March 10, 2015, 01:29:38 am
If the batteries are disconnected at their posts, they will go through the entire winter without losing anything if in good shape. A very cold battery will not provide the CCA but the voltage will be close to when it was disconnected. Summer with high temperatures and humidity will discharge a battery much faster. Anyone watch the Diehard Battery ads with the battery encased in ice? It does work that way and a fully charged battery won't freeze. You just can't turn off a switch. The batteries have to be disconnected at their posts.

Pierce
Title: Re: Battery Charging
Post by: Dave M (RIP) on March 10, 2015, 07:00:50 am
Pierce is right and disconnecting 1 battery may or may not have the batteries disconnected.  Seems there is mass confusion around battery connections.
Title: Re: Battery Charging
Post by: fouroureye on March 10, 2015, 10:08:10 pm
 :headwall:  ok so my coach and engine high price shutoffs at the rear of rhe engine bay don't count for storage? Your correct, I'm confused...

Battery cables to the switches then to engine, then to inverter, 12v panel.. is because the posts come to one point and the terminal voltage could ve different?
Title: Re: Battery Charging
Post by: Michelle on March 10, 2015, 10:13:33 pm
Topic has drifted from answering OP's question.