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Title: Forcing Cooling Fan High Speed
Post by: jor on July 13, 2015, 12:24:51 pm
I've got the common setup with two fans controlled by hydraulic fluid passing through a Thermostatic valve in the coolant flow. I read several posts regarding this valve. Anyhow, mine works fine but I'd like to be prepared in case of an overheat situation now that we are completely reliant on the rig. Do I understand correctly that the only way to force high speed would be to remove and plug the individual hoses and the valve? Thanks.
jor
Title: Re: Forcing Cooling Fan High Speed
Post by: Keith and Joyce on July 13, 2015, 12:46:43 pm
Here is a previous post on the subject:

Manual fan speed control for our 99 U270 (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=22584.msg172545#msg172545)

Keith
Title: Re: Forcing Cooling Fan High Speed
Post by: jor on July 13, 2015, 01:12:20 pm
Thanks, Keith. I read that one. I'm not looking for anything as elaborate as Dave's solution (no retarder here so no inherent overheat issue). My motors have no electrical wires that I can see so no solenoid. I think it's just the wax switch/valve. I guess I could do as Barry did and install a ball valve to interrupt the flow. Now that I think about it, I suppose that would be the way to go. Just wondered if anyone else has considered this as a strictly just in case deal like the air dryer bypass (now carrying a union!).
jor
Title: Re: Forcing Cooling Fan High Speed
Post by: Kent Speers on July 13, 2015, 09:32:35 pm
Jon, you may not have a two speed switch. Mine does not. Mine is variable and correlates to the rpm of the engine. The two speed switch wiring on mine was not connected to the speed control valve. Some of the 93/94 Unihomes had this setup. If yours is wired then as I recall you can simply pull the spade connector and the control valve will automatically go to high speed.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Forcing Cooling Fan High Speed
Post by: jor on July 13, 2015, 10:22:11 pm
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If yours is wired then as I recall you can simply pull the spade connector and the control valve will automatically go to high speed.
That's the thing. No wires on mine. Just the two hydraulic hoses.
jor
Title: Re: Forcing Cooling Fan High Speed
Post by: Barry & Cindy on July 13, 2015, 10:38:16 pm
If you coach has the same thermostatic hydraulic valve, what we did may help you:
http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=9216.msg40801#msg40801
Title: Re: Forcing Cooling Fan High Speed
Post by: pthurman48 on July 13, 2015, 10:46:29 pm
My 95 U240 with CAT 3116 has 2 hydraulic fans, it has a high/low hydraulic value located on the drivers side.  The solenoid is controlled by a temp. sending unit just below the one for the dash temp gauge.  To force my fans to high speed, just remove the ground wire connected to the frame.  I used spare wires going to the dash area and a rocker switch to connect the ground to the solenoid and remove it for high speed. Works good.
Title: Re: Forcing Cooling Fan High Speed
Post by: wolfe10 on July 14, 2015, 08:43:31 am
Yes, some are electrically controlled, some wax capsule controlled.

Totally different systems with totally different controls.
Title: Re: Forcing Cooling Fan High Speed
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on July 14, 2015, 09:28:45 am
Yes, some are electrically controlled, some wax capsule controlled.
And some have NO control.  To the best of my knowledge (which is limited) our coach has no type of active cooling fan control.  I have traced the hydraulic lines from the pump to both fans and back.  Can't see any kind of limiting/controlling valve.  It appears the fans simply speed up as the engine rpm increases, until they reach the limit imposed by the (internal) hydraulic pump pressure regulator.  Does this sound correct?
Title: Re: Forcing Cooling Fan High Speed
Post by: jor on July 14, 2015, 10:07:07 am
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If you coach has the same thermostatic hydraulic valve, what we did may help you:
Yep, that is just what I have. Thanks, Barry. I think I'll pick up a ball valve. Thanks to all.
jor
Title: Re: Forcing Cooling Fan High Speed
Post by: Johnstons on July 14, 2015, 11:01:43 pm
We had an overheating problem going to Illinois last year.  Thinking we were stranded I called James T who told me to unplug the module forcing the fans to high speed.

I had to unhitch the Jeep to get the bay door up (and it was snow and sleet by then) but was I ever thankful when I heard those big fans crank up.
Title: Re: Forcing Cooling Fan High Speed
Post by: Twig on July 15, 2015, 12:25:11 pm
Attached somewhere on the body of the engine compartment (mine is on drivers side, close to the air filter housing) is a solenoid that activates high speed. If you take the top bolt off, the upper assembly of the solenoid will lift off. With the top off the fans default to high speed.