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Title: Voltage via VMSPC readout questionable
Post by: Fiddler on August 03, 2015, 10:45:45 am
While driving noticed DC voltage readout from VMSPC display ranges as follows:
Headlights on-Dash AC on high= 12.8-12.9 VDC
Headlights only on = 12.9-13 VDC
All off = 13.1 VDC
Is this normal?  or should I be testing some things?  what for example?
Chassis batteries less than 3 months old.
Title: Re: Voltage via VMSPC readout questionable
Post by: Gary Bouland (RIP) on August 03, 2015, 10:54:30 am
Fiddler, Assuming that dash gauge is accurate you should be seeing 14.1  / 14.3  with nothing drawing voltage.  I suggest that you use a VOM and check voltage at batteries with engine running.  And first things first, clean all battery connections while you are checking voltage.
Gary B
Title: Re: Voltage via VMSPC readout questionable
Post by: J. D. Stevens on August 03, 2015, 10:58:31 am
That all looks normal to me. Those appear to be voltages with the engine running. The voltage at the batteries will be higher.

There will always be voltage losses with a load on a battery. Longer wires cause more voltage drop. Smaller wire means more voltage drop. More load means more voltage drop. The will be voltage drop internal to the batteries as load increases. That is a separate issue from voltage drop due to discharge.
Title: Re: Voltage via VMSPC readout questionable
Post by: Gary Bouland (RIP) on August 03, 2015, 11:18:07 am
JD, You are right, my thinking was to verify that the voltages at the batteries were indicating that the alternator was working properly.
Gary B
Title: Re: Voltage via VMSPC readout questionable
Post by: wolfe10 on August 03, 2015, 11:39:33 am
Correct.  The more amps drawn by "front of coach" accessories, the lower the voltage as read at the front of the coach.
Title: Re: Voltage via VMSPC readout questionable
Post by: Bob McGee on August 03, 2015, 01:06:54 pm
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While driving noticed DC voltage readout from VMSPC display

Where is the VMSPC getting the voltage reading? At the ECM? My VMSPC voltage reading is almost always between 12.9 to 13.4 no matter what lights, etc are on.
Title: Re: Voltage via VMSPC readout questionable
Post by: John S on August 03, 2015, 09:58:23 pm
Mine are like Bob's but mostly 13.4 volts.  I have seen 13.1 from time to time but it usually pops back up the 13.4 and I have seen 13.8 but it does not stay there long.
Title: Re: Voltage via VMSPC readout questionable
Post by: wolfe10 on August 04, 2015, 08:55:15 am
Clearly, the question is WHERE does the VMSPC pick up its voltage signal.  If at dash, the readings would be considered normal.

If at engine or battery, there should NOT be that kind of voltage drop/fluctuation, as the alternator is sized to well-handle all the electrical loads mentioned.  Only exception would be right after starting if batteries are deeply discharged.
Title: Re: Voltage via VMSPC readout questionable
Post by: honico on August 24, 2015, 11:04:09 am
...Clearly, the question is WHERE does the VMSPC pick up its voltage signal...

Hey folks, Art here

The VMSpc is attached to your Diagnostics port. As such, it's being told your Chassis Battery Volts by the Engines' ECU.  It's not reporting or reflecting the actual drop of the batteries--but a slight line drop which is to be expected. The JIB doesn't do any measuring.  Not to worry.  The drop has always been there though the old steam gauges didn't/ don't have resolution in the 10ths of a volts to relate it.

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Title: Re: Voltage via VMSPC readout questionable
Post by: BamaFan on August 24, 2015, 11:20:22 am
I have recently downloaded and implemented 4.0.2. I have not driven with it yet as we are parked for a while, but it seems to have much better functionality. The Retarder gauges look much different with temp, status, and percent displayed. Other gauges, e.g. message box, tank minder, cruise status all seem better. So far I am very happy with the results.