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Title: Broken Shock Mounts
Post by: Pamela & Mike on August 22, 2015, 07:15:33 pm
Then we noticed the other side rear shock mount was broken. Must have recently happened. They pushed the shock all the way up and discovered the coach was bottoming out. All the rear mounts needed to be extended. So next week they will be extending all the rear mounts lower. Hopefully this will fix the problem that has been going on since I owned it. i have had about 6 or seven broken shock mounts.

Barry,

Are you using the FDS shocks in that location? 
If so is the travel on those different from the original Koni?
Or did your coach brake mounts with the OEM shocks too?

Pamela & Mike
Title: Re: Broken Shock Mounts
Post by: Barry Beam on August 22, 2015, 07:29:02 pm
Barry,
Are you using the FDS shocks in that location? 
If so is the travel on those different from the original Koni?
Or did your coach brake mounts with the OEM shocks too?
Pamela & Mike
I did replace the original rear shocks with the FSD's before I left for the Maritimes hoping it would solve the problem. The travel is the same and it broke on the OEM & the FSD's. I knew it had to be the mounts but could not prove it until now. I do not know how it could have left the factory like this without checking the distance between the shock bolts. Hopefully it is not like this on all 2003's
(EDIT) I could hear the rear bottoming out when I hit an unexpected dip. It is not supposed to bottom out.
Title: Re: Broken Shock Mounts
Post by: Pamela & Mike on August 22, 2015, 07:38:36 pm
.Hopefully it is not like this on all 2003's

Barry,

That was my thought when I saw your post. Was wondering if it was the shocks or location of mounts. If it is location of the mounts as it seems to be several coaches may be affected.

Pamela & Mike

Title: Re: Broken Shock Mounts
Post by: John Haygarth on August 22, 2015, 07:44:38 pm
Barry surely FT will give you some restitution after all these costs re the shocks/mounts. It was their mistake that caused it all!!
JohnH
Title: Re: Broken Shock Mounts
Post by: Barry Beam on August 22, 2015, 08:03:29 pm
Barry, the next 3 pictures show the location of the slide bladder tear, the tear it self and the end result.
If that continues to hold it sounds like a great inexpensive remedy. Kudos to you.  b^.^d
Title: Re: Broken Shock Mounts
Post by: Barry Beam on August 22, 2015, 08:10:00 pm
Barry surely FT will give you some restitution after all these costs re the shocks/mounts. It was their mistake that caused it all!!
JohnH
That is sure going to be my argument. I did not ask if they plan on charging me for it as it was well after closing friday night when we discovered it. So I thought I would wait when they are fresh to discuss it. It is clearly a MFG defect so I don't think they will argue about them taking care of it.
Title: Re: Broken Shock Mounts
Post by: Barry Beam on August 31, 2015, 08:15:57 pm
The solution that was agreed upon and they covered it was:
They could not make the mount longer as that would break the top of mount because there is no room for it.
And they could see the round welded steel bumper indentation showing it was hitting.
They said It is not supposed to bottom out.
So they welded the broken mount as usual.
They added an additional round steel bumper on the frame so the shocks would not bottom out.
It would hit the bumper first which it is supposed to do.
Then they changed my ride height to 8 1/2".

Just got home to So. Cal. after 1600 miles of driving.
I have never experienced this "Foretravel ride" that I have always heard about until now.
Raising the ride height to 8 1/2" made an incredible difference.
I could feel the strength of the air bags when going over potholes and irregular roads.
And when I came across one of those unexpected dips the coach just barely kissed the new raised bumper, which would normally have broken the shock mount.
It was the most comfortable ride I have taken in this coach and I was fighting wind a long way.
It was a real joy to drive. Like night and day.
I am a happy camper.  :dance:

I was glad that I could go back and forth to my coach checking on the progress and questioning anything that I was unsure of that they were doing so as to not have any miscommunications with the techs. It was a good experience and Dave's Remodel Dept was exceptional as always.
Title: Re: Broken Shock Mounts
Post by: TulsaTrent on August 31, 2015, 09:02:46 pm
Barry,
 
Congratulations on getting an official factory fix.
 
Two questions:
 
    What was the ride height prior to the change to 8 1/2"?
 
    How did they change the ride height?
 
Okay, a third question:
 
    Is this something the rest of us have to worry about?
 
Thanks,
 
Trent

Title: Re: Broken Shock Mounts
Post by: krush on August 31, 2015, 09:18:19 pm
One thing I don't understand about the suspension design is that it does not use the internal bump stops of the airbags when bottoming out. Instead, metal parts hit. I cut open an air bag...there are softer components inside to bump together!
Title: Re: Broken Shock Mounts
Post by: Tim Fiedler on August 31, 2015, 09:21:25 pm
Isn't ride height set in HWH system?
Title: Re: Broken Shock Mounts
Post by: Barry Beam on August 31, 2015, 09:36:13 pm
Barry,
Congratulations on getting an official factory fix.
Two questions:
    What was the ride height prior to the change to 8 1/2"?
    How did they change the ride height?

I believe between 8" & 8 1/4"
They make the adjustments on the 3 ride height valves.
Measuring only the 2 bags in front of the rear drive axle & the 2 bags in back of the front axle.

Quote
Okay, a third question:
    Is this something the rest of us have to worry about?
If you are not breaking shock mounts or are not bottoming out hard when you hit big potholes there should be no problem.
My coach was the 2003 pre production model and it might be something that happened on my coach specifically.


Title: Re: Broken Shock Mounts
Post by: wolfe10 on September 01, 2015, 08:30:37 am
Pretty much applies to all shocks.  At ride height, the shock should be at or slightly more extended than mid travel.  Very easy to measure. 

Compress the shock and measure, extend the shock and measure.  Measure shock mount to shock mount.