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Title: Windshield problems,
Post by: Mitch Dunn on September 15, 2015, 09:45:13 am
  I have owned my '93 Grand Villa since '08. Twice in that time the windshield has twisted out of the frame, both times it has happened when I hit the automatic leveler. The first time was in '09, I took it to F T , they installed a new rt windshield which included the heavier gasket. Last month I rolled it out to wash it and pushed the level button and the computer went nuts and out popped the glass again. Does anyone know THE fix for this problem? Fore travel said the were going to re-attach the framework to solve this, but I can't find anything on the invoice that says they did. any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Windshield problems,
Post by: John S on September 15, 2015, 09:47:59 am
That has been an ongoing issue with the GV.  I would talk to James over at xtreme and see if they have any ideas.
Title: Re: Windshield problems,
Post by: John Duld on September 15, 2015, 10:04:59 am
Mitch,
Check all the way around the cap/windshield joint to be sure the cap is still glued to the structure around the windshield opening.
When they come loose they call that a loose cap.
JD
Title: Re: Windshield problems,
Post by: car54 on September 15, 2015, 10:12:06 am
Local glass shop familiar with FTs told me they glue the gasket to the windshield and the frame with urethane sealant and let it sit two days before they attempt to move it at all. He said this generally prevents any window popping on the coaches in decent shape, but weaker bodies require further reinforcing of the front cap, which they are happy to perform for $$$more than I paid for the entire coach.
Title: Re: Windshield problems,
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on September 15, 2015, 10:22:46 am
Mitch,

Try these threads for some ideas:

Grand Villa Windshield (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=24323.msg190051#msg190051)

looking for advice from the experts (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=21296.msg158382#msg158382)
Title: Re: Windshield problems,
Post by: twobus on September 15, 2015, 10:27:18 am
Make sure the plywood bulkhead at the base of the windshield is in good shape. When I looked stright up through the access dors in the nose, that bulkhead looked just fine, but when I stuck my fingers through it, that was a hint that perhaps the integrity of that plywood was somewhat compromised. Replacing that plywood was the end of my windshield issues. Har! Just went through the above threads, and it's pretty obvoous that the rotted plywood made an impression on me.. sorry for the repetition.
Title: Re: Windshield problems,
Post by: Mitch Dunn on September 15, 2015, 05:09:10 pm
Thanks to all for your input, gives me lots to think about. About a month ago, there was a thread about those grab handles below the windshield. Does anyone know the exact location of these, the wood "seems" solid enough. I am going. To remove the windshields to get a better look and check for delamination. If all looks good, I plan on squaring the opening to the glass and installing the handles to lock it in place. What do you think ?
Title: Re: Windshield problems,
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on September 15, 2015, 06:59:22 pm
Mitch,

On our '93 U280, the handles below the windshield do not in any way support or screw into the plywood dash shelf.  My handles simply screw into the fiberglass, with small 2" square plywood backers on each screw.  And, the wood backers were doing nothing, because they were totally dried out/rotted.  I replaced them with large fender washers held on by heavy duty "speed nuts" and epoxy.
Title: Re: Windshield problems,
Post by: Gary Bouland (RIP) on September 16, 2015, 03:27:16 pm
FT windshields are not glued in place with urethane.  That would be a quick fix but one you would regret when you tried to replace the next WS.  Most likely the fiberglass has separated form the structure behind it as others have said.
Gary B
Title: Re: Windshield problems,
Post by: Mitch Dunn on September 18, 2015, 11:27:00 am
Thank you all for your input  fellow Fore Travelers. This is an awesome forum !!!!!!
      Mitch
Title: Re: Windshield problems,
Post by: TAS69 on September 18, 2015, 04:30:50 pm
We had our 280's windshield gasket replaced by MOT. Keith did the adjustment and let it sit for almost three days before we drove. New owner didn't level correctly and almost popped the drivers windshield out. The 40' grandvilla is far more susceptible to this. Don't let just any body try to remedy this and definitely take care to avoid twisting  going forward!