Here's the coach I bought from a salvage auction. getting a complete make over on the interior. I bought it just outside Miami,Fl and drove it home 1,000 miles to Indiana. with no troubles. Now the work begins. Good thing Ii have 8 kids that like to help.We are sanding and refinishing all the wood,rebuilding the ceiling, converting the fridge over to a residential, and new sofa's and swivel rocker. and seal and recover all the window boxes.
Wow! What a project! I suspect it's more than we could handle--but it should be really nice when it's completed!
Good luck with the rebuild, looks like it will take a lot of elbow grease...it looks like the front a/c burned???
Wow! Wonder what caused that? :-\ Looks like the exhaust fan.
It was the front A/C unit. that burned.
Here was my starting point after Refrigerator fire.
Do you have any after pictures. It will give me something to look forward to.
This weekend I will take some long over do pics.
I keep waiting because I always have another project, I know now I will never finish.
Here's some pictures of the cabinet doors we cleaned sanded and stained. I Will have to make a trip to the salvage yard to pick up a couple replacement doors that have some bad spot in them. I have decided to do a light Cherry stain along with a high gloss lacquer.
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Looks Great, its a big challenge but sounds like your up to the task keep the progress reports coming. Thanks for sharing
A very nice looking start to the rehab. Cherry ages, the surface oxidizes and gets darker over time. It is challenging to take new cherry and stain it and finish it to get a real close match to the wood as it exists today.
A high gloss lacquer is a good base. The clear finishes cure up harder than the matte or satin finishes. They're more transparent as well so the color and grain of the wood shows through better. Rubbing out the clear gloss or adding a matte or satin coat over the glass will get you closer to the original finish.
Keep at it, it will be lovely.
Getting the cabinets ready for stain and sanding sealer.
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Great progress! Looks like we have a VERY similar rig. 1998 4200 RCFE. We rebuilt the rear closet into an office space, look forward to seeing what you do with your kitchen/living room section. Did you sand the doors down to bare wood first? Trying to decide if I can surface sand then overcoat our walnut kitchen table, or if the conversion varnish needs to all come off first. Looks like yours are coming out beautifully! :-)
I seen your conversion. and I think that will be my next project is moving the bed and putting a loveseat in our bed room at the foot of the bed. the ones up front i wiped with lacquer thinner to remove the soot and the n lightly sanded the doors. and the stained and used sanding sealer before i put a lacquer finish on. I think in the from we are going to put 2 sofa's and 1 love seat. we have 9 kids so we need all the roof for them to ride. and we set tents up where we go. on the rear of the coach we are not removing the old finish just scuffing and staining before the sanding sealer. and there is no difference in the finish. and I can tell you there are a lot of doors in a foretravel. i thought the kids were bringing me doors from the neighbors house.
Wow. 9 kids. My hat is officially off to you, doing anything with a family that large has got to be a not-so-minor project in itself. :-)
Great to hear. That's pretty much what I wanted to do if possible. I haven't worked much with lacquer, but I used to live on and maintain a teak hulled sloop, so refinishing wood is something I've had some experience with. My biggest concern was adhesion to the conversion varnish they used at FoT.
I hear you on all the doors! Replacing all the lift cylinders and tightening up all the hinges/knobs really drove that point home for me, and I wasn't doing nearly the amount of work on the doors you are. The end result will be SO worth it though!
If you are planning on taking out the closet in the back to move the bed (which was how I read what you said) , let us know if you run into any problems? We took a fair number of pictures and might be able to shed some light on the way things are put together. IIRC it took me about 3-4 hours of simply removing screws on the closet bulkhead alone. There are literally POUNDS of really long square drive screws anchoring that sucker into the walls/ceiling. When you get it all out you need to decide what to do with the cedar walls in the closet, we covered it all with the same material as the original headliner in the rig (they had a supply at FoT) and put walnut "C" channel molding along the joint to cover the transition between the newly fuzzy walls and the original wallpaper. The moulding doubles as a conduit for wires if you decide to put electrical boxes in etc. You'll also need to decide what to do with the shore power/generator bus transfer switch located under the bed. We built a box around it and added a ledge/conduit along the driver side along the floor similar to the one in the toilet room.
Will follow your progress with great interest! Please share any insights you stumble across. :-)
Ok i need some opinions. on the interior. we are interested in the Ambassador RV package and just wanted some thoughts on color.
Our coach is burgundy on the outside
and the inside is walnut with a cherry stain and a high gloss lacquer.
Our dash matches the 101 almond color.
and was wondering on an insert color of Lt. Antelope IL103 , Chianti IL106 ,
Ambassador RV Furniture Package - RV Packages - RV FURNITURE (http://shop4seats.com/rv-furniture/rv-packages/rv-ambassador-package.html)
or a different color all together.
the floor is a Porceline tile
MS International Calacatta Ivory 12 in. x 24 in. Glazed Polished Porcelain... (http://www.homedepot.com/p/MS-International-Calacatta-Ivory-12-in-x-24-in-Glazed-Polished-Porcelain-Floor-and-Wall-Tile-16-sq-ft-case-NCALIVO1224/202943512)
Thought #1 - (if you haven't already) get actual samples of all colors you're considering and view them "in their native habitat" (i.e. your coach). You would be very surprised how colors can appear different in different lighting/settings.
Thought #2 - large things like furniture that are going to be around a while and are difficult to "re-color" should usually* be neutral. Accent pops of color (like insets) are nice, but much easier to accent with pillows and throws that you can change out if/when your tastes change.
(* says she with a salsa red Ultraleather couch. So I don't lead by example :D However it matches the color that the original owner chose for the window verticals, so it works in our coach)
Thought #3 - JMPO, the price for the whole Ambassador package is less than a single Villa (or maybe even Flexsteel) driver's seat. I would look closely in person at the quality of this furniture before committing to it. The price seems awfully low for the number of pieces and what is typically the cost of the mainstream RV furniture brands. Not saying it isn't good quality, but the price gives me pause...
I second Michelle's comment and did not post my thoughts on the price as I have said a few things wrong lately and did not want to seem like I was infering it was cheap.
We have seen Steve and Michelle's coach and material and think it is fabulous, quality and colour. So, her comments are made by someone with a good eye (the other is good too, I think). She also plays a mean game of Golf!
JohnH
Michelle do you have pictures of your coach.
and do you recommend a place for RV furniture.
Only little bits and pieces from projects we've done. Not the overall look.
Your first post mentions you're in Indiana. I would look at Bradd and Hall http://www.braddandhall.com/productcart/pc/viewContent.asp?idpage=20 as they carry the good name brands (Foretravel has long used Villa and Flexsteel almost exclusively) and mention having some gently used pieces.
BTW, for captain's chairs, you might need to keep in mind what was there before. IIRC, Flexsteel (which is a very good, desirable brand) was at one time pretty restrictive in requiring their captain's chairs could only replace if Flexsteel was the prior seating. I believe this is out of concern for safety over properly securing the new seats.
Another option, though more difficult for your location, is to shop the Foretravel back room for used furniture and have it recovered at FOT. That's what we did for our dinette benches. Infinity in Nac is another resource for reupholstery. We haven't used them ourselves but have read only good reviews here on the forum.
Just for reference, a very well liked member, George Stoltz (RIP), had a bad experience buying online from what I think is an eerily similar company.
You might want to read about his experience:
A First-Hand Report of a Second-Rate RV Furniture Manufacturer (Part 2) (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=9929.msg45043#msg45043)
New Cockpit Seating -- Part 1 (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=9927.msg45031#msg45031)
From what I can gather. The seats are made by seatcraft. (Home theatre seating). I cannot find any negative reviews about the product just slow shipping a few years back. I am not in a position to be driving to Elkart,in. So my choices will be limited to the Internet. With that being said we are weekend warriors.(camp on the weekends with one trip a year). Si I figured when it comes time to retire and travel I will be ready for a new coach. So I figured the furniture will work fine with 8 kids.
Even better that you found a Forum member with first hand (and positive) experience with the company ^.^d Completely remodeled 96 U320 (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=25009.msg223361#msg223361)
After spraying 4 gallons of sanding sealer and 4 gallons of lacquer clear and a lot of sanding in between the wood work in the front of the camper is done for now.
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one word: WOW!!!
That was my reaction! WOW. That's gorgeous. The Foretravels remind me of yacht and your skills would earn you good keep on a sailboat. lol Can't wait to see it progress. :)
We're documenting our renovation here: Traveling Kids (http://www.travelingkids.com/)
If it's ok with the management and community, I'll start a new post with the link to our site. We're updating on a near daily basis now, so there's lots to see! :)
Susan
You have the same coach we have and same floor plan. Your coach is impressive. I can't wait to finish our so I can personalize it will all the little things that make it ours. But like with any project with me it never ends.
Yes! We're coach #5298. :D Can't wait to see yours progress. You keeping the closet?
Yes for now we are keeping the closet.
Your travelingkids blog seems to have server issues and is up and down. Still I subscribed (RSS) so I'll get all your new posts. Also left a comment ;)
EDIT: Sorry I thought I was posting this on a different thread! Didn't mean to threadjack your winter project.
Getting the back spash put up.
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looks great!
Finished up the section beside the stove. Now to do the section above the washer and dryer and beside the China Cabinet.
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How and with what did you attach it to the wall?
Thanks,
Trent
I sanded the wall and used a flexible mortar. and i have a flexible grout. that will go over the top when I'm finished. and i used a Brushed aluminum 1/4" trim around the edges to clean things up.
Your backsplash looks great.
Raymond
That window must have been fun to deal with. Those cuts look like Foretravel factory work ^.^d
The window was my nemesis. I just had to remind myself that my wife will see it every time we go camping.And borrowing a wet saw from my cousin that does this for a living made things a lot easier.
RH1. looks good and just a point as I had to change the location/position of Micro when I did the tiling around back wall, does your micro' have the clearance from left wall so that if it packs in or needs service can it still swing down to be removed?? The tiles would make it impossible to remove if no filler piece to left of Micro.
I also cut the tiles to fit around bottom of window,and used a Schluter edge trim too, looks better.
JohnH
Yes there's a filler panel the same width of the tile. So it can swing down. Hopefully it won't pack in for a while it's brand new.
How did you find the unit at salvage
I work for West Side Truck Parts in Owensboro,KY and we buy wrecked and salvaged semi's. and they happen to come across a few campers. Coparts is the auction I found this one at.
Here's the link to the current campers they have.
Recreational Vehicles Search Results: Copart USA (http://www.copart.com/us/search?Page=1&SearchTitle=Recreational+Vehicles+)(RV)&ShowWatchedLotsOnly=False&cn=c&InitialFilters=C&OriginalCount=738&ShowClassicView=False&PageSize=20&Sort=sd&filtercodes=c&oc=True&ocN=recreational+vehicles+(rv)&fuel=DIESEL
I'm currently bidding on a 2003 Damon Ultrasport 34' with only 5,600 miles. it say's interior fire but the pictures does not show anything. So i'm guessing it was a fire in the 50 amp electrical area.
Finished up putting in the new a/c units, and replacing all the phone cords and low voltage wiring in the ceiling. installing new duct work. and installing the floor this weekend with heat strips in the floor. I have a few pieces to finish up tonight then grout on Tuesday.
Next time I think I will pay some one. my Knees are blue and bruised.
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Put some temporary blinds up and some furniture in. We are going to camp a few times before I carpet and finish up the ceiling to make sure everything is where we want it. Need to finish up upholstering the window boxes. and building an end table for the other side of the sofa.
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Fantastic!
I installed the TV and started onthe new back up and side cameras with new monitor.
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Seriously, this is just such a wow job. :o I love all of it.
Very nice job.
Wow, what a great job you guys are doing. It just keeps getting better and better! What new back up and side cameras with new monitor will you be using?
Greg
Just amazing! The couches look great, more comfortable than mine do. Where did you get them. Are both convertible?
We found the sofa's by accident. they had them at Menards and the were a dark color so we are using them until we can decide on the color for the interior. and they have wall-away recliners on each end. and went thru the front door with ease. I don't think they will last long but we are just weekenders so i think it will last uf for quite a while.
I ordered the camera system thru RVCAMS.COM and emailed Tim Lazaroe. He was very help full. I told him what I had and what I wanted and I thought I wanted a motorized back up camera with sound and I forgot about the motor being in the rear so I am glad I did not waste my time with the extra wires. and I went with his recommendation a voyager system with 4 way monitor and two side cameras and all the connections so I did not have to rewire anything. just hook up the power wires and everything else was a plug and play. I have the rear camera put in and hooked up to the Javelin system and it worked perfectly. I have yet to install the side cameras. I would highly recommend them. I'm usually cheap but this is not one thing i wanted to be cheap on. For now i removed the Javelin monitor and double side taped the new monitor in place. I want to use it a few times to make sure there is no glare before I permanently mount it. I'll try to get some pics of the monitor when i get home.
((Side note the system I ordered off Amazon for my Newmar was junk and I spent 3 days figuring out and ordering the right connections. and the camera was not clear and the field of view was way off. I could see the hitch but noting else. like the camera was made to be mounted low.))
Working on the cabinets in the bedroom and bathroom.
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Very impressive!
Susan
Randy, the whole rehab is turning out quite amazing. You are doing a great job, one you can be quite proud of.
Working on the bedroom and bathroom.
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Put the carpet in this weekend, and I need to finish up with the transition strips.
Finished up installing the last section of the boogie lights. and a travel switch.
My DW spent the weekend touching up the walls and cleaning up after me and the boys.
This weekend coming up should be engine and mechanical maintenance.
WOW! JUST WOW!
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First class. Get it done and on the road. We will be looking for you.
Thanks. we will be heading to Ferriday,La for a family reunion memorial day weekend. so i am going thru everything i can think of.Just rep[laced a seal in the steering gear box and finished putting it back on and put a new A/C compressor, dryer and cleaned the system yesterday. And today I will be installing the new alarm and installing new sound deader in the generator compartment.
Craneman, what I do to be able to quote from a previous post is just to copy (right click and drag over text etc to highlite it) then left click to copy.
I then type quote" and right click and then paste so what I copied goes next. I then add the " marks to end the quote.
Simple and fast.
JohnH
I just use the Quote button in the post then scroll up to the portion of the post that I don't want and highlight and delete it. I like this method since it has a reference back to the original post. Be sure to add YOUR text after the closing [/quote]
It will look like the code below in the post reply box but look like the above in the post. Use the preview button to be sure the post looks like what you want. Also a good time to spell check! Yes guilty as charged. :(
[quote author=John Haygarth date=1461078732 link=msg=229848]
blah, blah, blah...
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Your text goes here.
Sorry to take this post off track but I see a lot of people have trouble with post quotes.
see ya
ken
So Ken you think my comment was "blah- blah" hey :)) :))
JohnH
Polished some wheels and installed some new side lights to get rid of the old ugly one.
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I updated the alarm box with a new one with better range. and installed new motor mounts on the generator this morning now it runs much smoother with out shaking the camper and starts better as the ground wire was lose.
Spent the day replacing the clearance lights with new led lights and washing Ruby.
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Rhoughton, where did you get those clearance lights and the side lights that you posted earlier. They look very sharp. ^.^d
We sell them at our Chrome shop here's the link's.
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Side chrome lights are for the back of mirrors but they work great and have turn signals built in and doesn't blind me in the mirrors.
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Here's a link that the manufacturer. They manufacture some of the best led lights.
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They're expensive but they're so slick I think they're the first ones I've seen that are worth it. Those would look great on my coach.
They will look great on my coach, I already ordered them. Thanks for the links.
Great looking coach! Did you get the side cameras sorted out?
You are in Indiana. You may want to go to Elkart. Their are a lot of RV furniture manufactures that supply the industry in Elkart. Some of them have outlet stores. Just search RV furniture in Elkart , Indiana in Google.
Yes I did and the cameras are clear. And I didn't realize the screen was a touch screen so if I want to I can view all three or just touch the camera I want to see and it will be full screen. I would recommend them. Great service and fast shipping and very easy to install. I'll try to get some pictures tomorrow.