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Title: Supplimental Brake System for 2016 Chev 1500 Silverado 4X4
Post by: WagonWheels on April 14, 2016, 06:08:14 pm
New to owning a motorhome (2003 Foretravel U320 38ft w/tag DP).  We selected a 2016 Chev Silverado 1500 4X4 for a toad.  The manual for the Chev spells out exactly what one has to do to dinghy tow the vehicle.  One of the requirements is to disconnect the negative cable at the battery.  No problem?  Very big problem if I want to use a supplemental braking system in the Chev.  The braking systems that sit in the floor and push on the brake pedal require plugging into a cigarette lighter.  Disconnected vehicle battery cuts power to the cigarette lighter plug.  Another issue is with the Chev brake lights.  The brake lights will not light when the brake pedal is pushed by the supplemental braking system with the vehicle battery disconnected.  What are my options?  Operate without a supplemental braking system?  Purchase/trade for a different toad?  Install a supplemental braking system that I am not familiar with?  Please help.
Title: Re: Supplimental Brake System for 2016 Chev 1500 Silverado 4X4
Post by: Tim Fiedler on April 14, 2016, 06:43:19 pm
disconnect battery negative terminal - run a dedicated ground from to the battery from the cigarette lighter so that it stays hot. Suggest a quick disconnect for battery, any auto parts store can help you out there
Title: Re: Supplimental Brake System for 2016 Chev 1500 Silverado 4X4
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 14, 2016, 07:20:21 pm
Properly Wiring a Towed Vehicle (http://www.rv-partsplus.com/properly-wiring-a-tow-vehicle)

2016 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Vehicle Tow Bar Wiring | etrailer.com (http://www.etrailer.com/tbwiring-2016_Chevrolet_Silverado+1500.htm)
Title: Re: Supplimental Brake System for 2016 Chev 1500 Silverado 4X4
Post by: craneman on April 14, 2016, 07:47:08 pm
disconnect battery negative terminal - run a dedicated ground from to the battery from the cigarette lighter so that it stays hot. Suggest a quick disconnect for battery, any auto parts store can help you out there

Not sure that would work unless the lighter socket was not connected to ground. I believe the battery would seek ground through the dash metal and back feed to complete a grounded battery just with a less gauge wire.
Title: Re: Supplimental Brake System for 2016 Chev 1500 Silverado 4X4
Post by: Genie915 on April 14, 2016, 07:53:06 pm
m-gengineering.com  Have this on my 2014 GMC. Have the battery disconnect. Have wiring to tail, brake and turn signals through electric hookup to coach.
Title: Re: Supplimental Brake System for 2016 Chev 1500 Silverado 4X4
Post by: craneman on April 14, 2016, 08:07:29 pm
New to owning a motorhome (2003 Foretravel U320 38ft w/tag DP).  We selected a 2016 Chev Silverado 1500 4X4 for a toad.  The manual for the Chev spells out exactly what one has to do to dinghy tow the vehicle.  One of the requirements is to disconnect the negative cable at the battery.  No problem?  Very big problem if I want to use a supplemental braking system in the Chev.  The braking systems that sit in the floor and push on the brake pedal require plugging into a cigarette lighter.  Disconnected vehicle battery cuts power to the cigarette lighter plug.  Another issue is with the Chev brake lights.  The brake lights will not light when the brake pedal is pushed by the supplemental braking system with the vehicle battery disconnected.  What are my options?  Operate without a supplemental braking system?  Purchase/trade for a different toad?  Install a supplemental braking system that I am not familiar with?  Please help.

There are a couple of good air operated systems one is called air force and the other is made by Roadmaster
Title: Re: Supplimental Brake System for 2016 Chev 1500 Silverado 4X4
Post by: BillO on April 14, 2016, 10:06:11 pm
m-gengineering.com  Have this on my 2014 GMC. Have the battery disconnect. Have wiring to tail, brake and turn signals through electric hookup to coach.
I second this approach -- if M&G has an application for the OP's  vehicle.  Need to check their website compatibility list to be sure.

I use the M&G air brake and wiring completely independent of the car (with an additional light installed in the taillight assembly) in my Honda CRV with a couple pluses:


Title: Re: Supplimental Brake System for 2016 Chev 1500 Silverado 4X4
Post by: Emit Trap on April 15, 2016, 06:11:44 am
I just installed a Ready Brake yesterday for my Jeep. This unit does not require power from the toad. It is a very simple straight forward mechanical surge brake. Works like a dream. Several folks on the forum have them.
 NSA RV Products - Ready Brake and Ready Brute Home (http://www.readybrake.com/)
Title: Re: Supplimental Brake System for 2016 Chev 1500 Silverado 4X4
Post by: John S on April 15, 2016, 07:07:09 am
I have the same issue with a dead lighter so I put on an Air Force one
Title: Re: Supplimental Brake System for 2016 Chev 1500 Silverado 4X4
Post by: Lance Camper on April 15, 2016, 09:15:31 am
I just installed a Ready Brake yesterday for my Jeep. This unit does not require power from the toad. It is a very simple straight forward mechanical surge brake. Works like a dream. Several folks on the forum have them.
 NSA RV Products - Ready Brake and Ready Brute Home (http://www.readybrake.com/)
I've been using Ready Brake for over six years with a class C first and now our U295. Works great and does not use any power.
Title: Re: Supplimental Brake System for 2016 Chev 1500 Silverado 4X4
Post by: 4stakes on April 16, 2016, 12:58:19 am
I tow a 2012 GMC Yukon and use the M & G air system.  Works great and is super easy to hook up when ready to tow - just connect the air line between the coach and truck.
Had it installed at M&G in Texas.  Took about 2 hrs total (coach and tow vehicle.)
Title: Re: Supplimental Brake System for 2016 Chev 1500 Silverado 4X4
Post by: John S on April 16, 2016, 07:05:42 am
The reason I did not use a ready Brake style is also because the fact that our retarder slows the coach enough I did not want the brakes on the car coming on with the surge braking.  Air Force one uses the air so if I am only using th retarder then the tow is not trying to stop the coach.
Title: Re: Supplimental Brake System for 2016 Chev 1500 Silverado 4X4
Post by: craneman on April 16, 2016, 10:41:40 am
I use the Brake Buddy with the remote so I can tell when the towed brakes are applied. If on a downgrade with retarder I can remotely change from proportional to the sensitivity settings and prevent towed brakes from dragging. I also have 12 volts coming from the coach to the Jeep. I would not be able to use this system with the battery disconnected unless I put in one of the hand carried jump starter devices and hooked the Brake Buddy to the lighter socket in it.