Michelin has recently begun to make truck sizes in their Uniroyal brand of tires. I purchased six 275 80R 22.5 Premium Long Haul Steer tires, date code 1016, for $346 less $100 for take off tire or a total of $1476. These tires are made at the Michelin factory here in the US.
My source is Brown's Tires at exit 723, Interstate 10, in Sealy, Tx, 979.885.6063. Talk to Tony or Jerry for more info.
Thanks for sharing Rudy- will keep this in mind when I am looking for tires next time. I sure don't like paying premium prices for tires and then not wearing them out, but changing them due to time.
Thanks Rudy. Are those load H tires?
Greg,
These are LRG rated which is fine for my 12k lbs steer axle. I have run G rated tires on this coach for years, no problems.
I do not think they are offering a LRH now. One of my Prevost friends lamented they are not making the 365 size either.
Rudy,
Please keep us up-to-date as you use the new tires. I'm really interested in the ride quality and your overall impression of them as they age.
Called around (Austin, San Antiono areas) for Toyo M154 295/75R/22.5 H Rated (16 ply) and the best price I found is $480 per tire out of door ($2,880 for 6). So that above Uniroyal tire is much better deal! Does $1,476 for set of 6 includes balance and install?
Thanks!
Rudy,
Which Uniroyal tire/what series did you go with.
Compare them to your previous tires (what did you have on previously)?
Thanks.
The price I paid is everything including $100 each for my take off tires, all of which were usable for trailer tires, except balance. I use Centratics for that. Call them for balance price.
Brett,
Previous tires were Hankook AH 11 premium steer 295/ 75R 22.5 G rated. Before that Toyo M144 steer tires.
The Uniroyal are LS24 long haul premium steer tires G rated, the only way they make them.
They also make a regional tire but Brown sells the better steer tire to his trucking clients. Sixty sets on client trucks with no issues.
Boy did I like the 1016 date code. This are stinky tires when I got them home.
Regarding how are the Uniroyal doing, they road softer than the 7 year old tires I took off. That was expected by all I talked to. The trip home was 70 freeway miles.
Thanks, Rudy.
Back in the "high country" or still down hear with us low landers/under water folks?
The Toyos are tires worth around 80K, which is not bad, if one is not doing a lot of cruising. We have fresh Michelins, and we don't move as much anymore, so I'd be betting the sidewalls (even though I am nuts about Perma-Tech "No Wipe") will go before their time because of little use. The other little "issue" is where are you going? Tread configurations will vary depending on north, south, east & west.
Brett,
We are back home from the Prevost Community Oyster Fest No Rally Rally attend by 40 Prevosts and 4 Foretravels.
Will attend the Newell Gurus No Rally Rally in Ruidoso June 6 to 10 with a bunch of Newells, Prevosts and Foretravels.
You all come as no membership is required to attend.
always loved Toyo's and Yokohama's (along with michelins) when I was in that business. Uniroyal s all trouble back then. (late seventies) late seventies.
But I still think to some degree you get what you paid for. In the Day, a good steer tire was $180 - $210. I had "steer" tires at $100. wouldn't go 30,000 miles, and over the road guys had a l to of failures. learned to just put on in town, low mileage rigs, had to put the better stuff on over the road trucks. Low price usually equates to lower quality or serviceability or both. Michelins you pay some for the name, but that price on the Uniroyal's would scare me off.
YMMV
Tim,
You are talking about a tire made by Michelin at the US Michelin tire factory as being substandard. I agree with one normally gets what he pays for so interesting to me that Michelin would produce a poor performing tire next to a high performing tire.
Brown is known by his clients as selling tires that do not cause problems. So time will tell but the 60 sets on the road now are doing fine.
Uniroyal is a very recent addition to the Michelin family.
B.F. Goodrich has been a the division owned by Michelin for a long time.
I am not familiar with the Uniroyal tire division.
Google brought up this: Uniroyal is experiencing a resurgence this year - Modern Tire Dealer (http://www.moderntiredealer.com/blogpost/b-o-b/340558/uniroyal-is-experiencing-a-resurgence-this-year)
Yes the Uniroyal truck tires are a new addition to the truck tire market. I noticed they are being made in the Michelin size 275/ 80R 22.5 rather than the 295/ 75R 22.5 used by many other brands.
Rudy,
Totally Agree - price just seems too good to be true. 60 Sets is a lot, and Houston is hot. Crazy good deal!
Tim,
If any fail prematurely, Brown will be the first to know as his trucker clients drive the tar out of there equipment. And they do not like to be blown out on the side of the road or having to buy tires with too few miles driven.
If I hear more, I will post the info.
Rudy
Agree, OTR truckers, hot temps, max loads, high speeds will tell the tale quickly. Michelin could be using it as a down market play (beer brewers do it all the time, but their margins are a bitt better) - or they could be pricing to buy market share- which they very well could be - just remain a bit skeptical given the HUGE relative price disparity. But with so many on the road, any trouble would show up quickly
Keep us informed!
Hope to see you in the fall so you can work your magic on my aqua hot.
I see references around the net that the xza-3+ are 230k tires at 6/32nd's left.
Tim,
I will be here (Exit 800 on Interstate 10) with bells on my toes and Uniroyal shoes on the coach. Thanks for choosing me and look forward to seeing you too.
Bob,
The tires I use age out way before 230K miles so that is not useful info other than to say they are fine tires.
A less expensive tire that would last a trucker only 80K miles is perfect for me.
True. Would be more interested in the finesse part of the tires, ride, steering, noise level.
Differences are probably minor. Unless you are cursed like me to be a perfectionist.
But that's an incredible price.
I'd laugh if it's the same tire with a different label. Possible
Uniroyal Truck Tires (http://www.uniroyal-online.com/generator/www/start/uniroyal/transport/en/old_tires_en.html)
Do you know which model you bought, Rudy? The Uniroyal website doesn't show anything in our size but it might not be up to date.
I purchased the LS24 Steer tire. They make an RS regional all position tire too.
What is your size?
275/80R22.5.
I found it now. Thanks.
I found some more info on a Michelin website with the following address:
http://www.michelinb2b.com/wps/b2bcontent/PDF/UNI_DataBook_E.pdf
I got 4 Toyo M177 for 261.00 ea. Add in FET, mount and balance plus a pair of Centramatics (all 4 corners installed) - $1676.00 out the door.
Minus the cost and labor on the Centramatics about 360.00 apiece. Love the ride. FL Shores truck center.
Are those Toyo tires Load Range G or H? How noticeable a difference do the Centramatics make?
Wheel Balancer 600-640 from Centramatic (http://www.centramatic.com/wheel-balancer.rhtml?modelNumber=600-640) That is for my 22.5 drive.
Wheel Balancer 700-720 from Centramatic (http://www.centramatic.com/wheel-balancer.rhtml?modelNumber=700-720) That is for my 22.5 steer (disc brake)
I believe they are correct models for my coach (1996 U-270).
Load Range H - Centramatics made the coach ride the smoothest its ever been. We still had the tires balanced.
Thanks! One more question: I looked at the load/inflation table for the Toyos, and it looks as if they require a somewhat higher inflation pressure for a given load. I suppose that's because they are 75-series tires rather than the Michelin 80-series tires. Is that correct?
Most likely. I run 105 in the front (XZA 3+) and 100 rear (Toyo)
Got new LS24 tires installed recent Wedensday along with Centramatic wheel balancers and my coach rode very smoohtly!
My date code is 1616 and 1716 :)
Great topic i never read about the Centramatic wheel balancers before..