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Title: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: OverTheHill on March 04, 2017, 08:22:10 pm
I've been looking at used class A's in the $175 to $250k range—Phenix coaches. I'm retiring this year, selling my house wanting to travel. I don't know if I want to buy another house. Before last week I had never even heard of a Foretravel coach. On other websites the owners consistently give them great reviews.

I've looked at all sorts of different options and the class a's are really the only ones that I like. If after 1 year I decide that I don't want to live in an RV any longer, what would be a realistic amount to lose when reselling the coach?

I've never been a guy that stays in campgrounds. How easy is it to boondock with a 40 foot coach? If you've been to Alaska in a class A would you do it again? Is there really much difference between a 36 and a 40 foot coach? I drove trucks for 4 years. My concerns are really more of getting high centered or just not finding a place to park or rv parks that cannot accommodate a 40 foot rig. 

How cold of weather can you travel in?
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: KenKetch on March 04, 2017, 08:42:01 pm
I have been full timing for 18 months and have stayed in about 40 parks. I chose a 36' because some National and State parks have a 36' limit. I am glad I chose a Foretravel and very glad that my coach has the 450M engine. Never have been without enough power. The PO had made a number of wonderful improvements and I have added my own.
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: George on March 04, 2017, 08:44:41 pm
Different things for different people, I have driven to Alaska 15 times,in a 40 foot motorhome, would go again given chance.
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: OverTheHill on March 04, 2017, 08:56:17 pm
Different things for different people, I have driven to Alaska 15 times,in a 40 foot motorhome, would go again given chance.
I hope I can say that some day.
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: saddlesore on March 04, 2017, 10:43:25 pm
As far as being able to "Boondock" in the Puckerbrush comfortably.... Just "Let 'ER RIP"!
Foretravel's have very large fresh water tanks, the black & gray tanks far exceed what you may find in some other brands. (SOB's)
Our tanks are 110 gal fresh, 112 gal gray & 55ish black, altho this varies depending on model and coach configurations.
And the slides are truely "finished and enclosed" on the bottom", not as most coaches that have slide edges which are "raw" & have very sharp edges and the underside(bottom) are left open to the elements when extended.
With the Aquahot, dual pane windows, substantial insulation in roof,sides and floor and true heated bays, severe winter conditions are normally not an issue, just prepare for them.
Good luck in your search and hopefully you will enjoy a Foretravel in your future..
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: John Haygarth on March 04, 2017, 11:26:01 pm
Jim, they have this thing now called "solar" and it works off the sun, so if you move to sunny climes you can stay out of RV parks all you like, we do!!
Twice a month join the maddening crowd and go to an RV park to dump and fill then get to h--l out of there.
No slides needed  to exist and cold weather should not be a problem if you plan right and follow simple rules for freezing.
Actually there are parks now that cater to 45 ft but not the norm. It can be as easy as you want or as hard as you want it to be, up to you.
JohnH
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: OverTheHill on March 04, 2017, 11:42:34 pm
Jim, they have this thing now called "solar" and it works off the sun, so if you move to sunny climes you can stay out of RV parks all you like, we do!!
Twice a month join the maddening crowd and go to an RV park to dump and fill then get to h--l out of there.
No slides needed  to exist and cold weather should not be a problem if you plan right and follow simple rules for freezing.
Actually there are parks now that cater to 45 ft but not the norm. It can be as easy as you want or as hard as you want it to be, up to you.
JohnH
I've studied solar quite a bit and was budgeting for it. I guess my concerns are more with clearance issues in non paved areas. Would you take a 40 footer into areas that a 35 foot class c would go?
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: Roland Begin on March 05, 2017, 12:07:39 am
2X what John said. I don't like RV parks.

Roland
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: Roland Begin on March 05, 2017, 12:09:52 am
My idea of a place to park our coach.

Roland
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: craneman on March 05, 2017, 12:38:44 am
Can't go to these places any more with the U320 I do miss them but the new coaches are so much more comfortable.
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: John S on March 05, 2017, 08:15:35 am
I don't think you could go the same places you can go in a super c designed for off road like Global vehicle expeditions or tiger motorhomes but then again they are not as comfy for extended living.  It is always a compromise.
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: OverTheHill on March 05, 2017, 10:00:47 am
Can't go to these places any more with the U320 I do miss them but the new coaches are so much more comfortable.
Is this because of clearance issues?

This is a great forum. Thanks for all of the input.
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: OverTheHill on March 05, 2017, 10:03:11 am
As far as being able to "Boondock" in the Puckerbrush comfortably.... Just "Let 'ER RIP"!

;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: craneman on March 05, 2017, 10:04:50 am
Is this because of clearance issues?

This is a great forum. Thanks for all of the input.
Clearance and leveling system. You can "walk" hydraulic levelers to any height that you have cribbing for and feel comfortable with.
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: John Duld on March 05, 2017, 11:18:21 am
Jim,
There are nice Foretravel's in the $100,000+or- price range.
If you do something like that, in a year if you decide to get out I think the hit would be less than if you went in at $200,000.
If you like the lifestyle then start looking from a better level of experience and trade up.
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: bbeane on March 05, 2017, 11:35:25 am
We full time and only use CGs to fill water and dump one or 2 night stay the rest of the time boondocking. If you choose an all electric coach you will need a lot of solar or a lot of generator time. Solar is the only way to go to truly enjoy the outback exp IMHO. You didn't say where your travels will take you, if you get much east of the Mississippi River much less open range BLM= less boondocking sites.
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: OverTheHill on March 05, 2017, 02:48:25 pm
Where do I want to go? I live in Montana and have friends in Texas and Arizona. Last year I was at Kearney Nebraska to see the cranes. I would like to take some time and follow the bird migrations in the US and Canada. A trip across the south in the spring when it is in full bloom. Alaska in the summer of 2018.  I am an amateur photographer and an avid hiker. I also have a strong interest in glacial geology. Visit volcanoes across the west....That should get me started.
Title: Re: Concerns about a Phenix
Post by: beetwo on April 01, 2017, 10:03:29 pm
I think with your agenda I would also explore a "super-C". Chuck at IWS in Idaho has some good rigs in the 35-37 ft range that might work better for boondocking,winter, and Alaska.Nothing against Foretravel, but something like a super-C might be a better fit for you.