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Title: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: dke1955 on March 20, 2017, 11:32:08 pm
Coach propane tank read E...took coach to town and had the tank filled to 3/4...coach is parked outside the house getting ready to leave in AM.  Noticed temp in fridge was 66, freezer 47....refrig. check light on....turned fridge off waited a few seconds turn on...check light off, generator is on so I switched fridge to AC.
There is no gas to the stove...turned on stove to be sure everything was ok with propane but there is no gas coming out of the burners...I had the nose right on the burner....no gas.
What do I need to do?  LP tank full, but no gas...could there be air in the lines from filling...surely not since LP is a closed system...guys I need some serious help with this if you can advise....Thanks!
dave
One more thing please....freezer is cooling nicely but the fridge portion is still hovering around 66....will freezer cool off before the fridge portion does????....
Man I thought I was set to go....crap.
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: DavidS on March 20, 2017, 11:33:41 pm
Check to make sure you turned the tank on.. when I turn mine on it is almost instant to the fridge.
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: John Haygarth on March 20, 2017, 11:39:37 pm
First check you have tank valve open (has to be shut off when filling) and wait for around 4 or more hours before fridge part starts to get cool. Cold air comes from the freezer usually so that is always the first to feel cold.
I would keep trying to light the stove to see if it finally gets circulating.
JohnH
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: jcus on March 20, 2017, 11:41:12 pm
Coach propane tank read E...took coach to town and had the tank filled to 3/4...coach is parked outside the house getting ready to leave in AM.  Noticed temp in fridge was 66, freezer 47....refrig. check light on....turned fridge off waited a few seconds turn on...check light off, generator is on so I switched fridge to AC.
There is no gas to the stove...turned on stove to be sure everything was ok with propane but there is no gas coming out of the burners...I had the nose right on the burner....no gas.
What do I need to do?  LP tank full, but no gas...could there be air in the lines from filling...surely not since LP is a closed system...guys I need some serious help with this if you can advise....Thanks!
dave
One more thing please....freezer is cooling nicely but the fridge portion is still hovering around 66....will freezer cool off before the fridge portion does????....
Man I thought I was set to go....crap.
The law in Texas dictates that person filling tank must turn off the discharge valve before filling, they often forget to turn it back on after filling your tank.
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: craneman on March 20, 2017, 11:51:02 pm
The freezer cools before the fridge.
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: AC7880 on March 20, 2017, 11:54:02 pm
If valve is already on at main tank, try turning it back off, then opening it quite slowly.
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: Bob & Sue on March 21, 2017, 12:04:17 am
Try turning these things back on if they are shut off. We have one by the step well and another one by the power meter. If they accidentally get shut off.      You get propane to nowhere.  Don't ask :)
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: Twig on March 21, 2017, 12:23:12 am
If the propane sniffer is turned off it shuts a solenoid located on the tank supply line which cuts the flow if there is a leak detected. This switch (in previous post photo) must be on.
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: jcus on March 21, 2017, 12:30:34 am
I am thinking that sometime around 99 due to change in laws, FT did away with the propane shut off. My 99 and 2000 did not have the electrical shutoff valve.
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: Bob & Sue on March 21, 2017, 01:56:39 am
Sooo,  2000 and newer have no gas shut off system in case of a leak??    There must be something like it to check.
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on March 21, 2017, 08:30:57 am
Questions.......................

Assuming the reefer has been running for the past nine hours, what's the temperature now?
If it's not cooling properly, when is the last time that it did?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y-2linYmmM
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: Tim Fiedler on March 21, 2017, 08:34:30 am
is gas getting to stove?

do you have an ice maker in the freezer of your refrigerator (ice maker is electric in RV refrigerators, might be cooling the freezer some -
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: jcus on March 21, 2017, 10:25:24 am
Sooo,  2000 and newer have no gas shut off system in case of a leak??    There must be something like it to check.
I believe it used to be a requirement to get a RVIA sticker on your coach. They followed NFP guidelines. Some manufacturers never used  RVIA so did not install the solenoid shut off. NFP  and thus RVIA dropped the requirement somewhere in the late 1998 or 1999. The audible propane monitor alarm inside the coach is still required.
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on March 21, 2017, 10:28:04 am
I guess the OP must be on the road.
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: Bob & Sue on March 21, 2017, 03:21:20 pm
Wow, interesting. So if one of the 5 propane devices in a post 99 coach go south when your away, the coach blows up ?      But you get an alarm    If your home. 

  Thank you Foretravel for complying in 1995.
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: danieljeff545 on March 21, 2017, 03:35:45 pm
Like others have posted....check the CO detector and reset it.  Mine needs to be reset after I re-fill tank.
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: Tim on March 21, 2017, 08:07:23 pm
The 12v electric gas solenoid can fail, stuck closed.  I discarded mine when it failed. They are more trouble than they are worth.
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: Bob & Sue on March 21, 2017, 08:22:19 pm
  Until. It saves your life or the coach !

That sounds like talking the battery out of a pesky smoke detector train of thought.
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: jcus on March 21, 2017, 08:28:04 pm

LP Gas Alarm (http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php?topic=45784.0)
Good discussion on propane detectors and shut off valves.
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: kenhat on March 22, 2017, 02:37:01 pm
My solenoid is 25 years old and still works so I have left it in place. If it fails I will probably just remove it. The only time I've had an issue with it shutting off is when I'm working on the batteries and disconnect it for a moment. An off/on cycle fixes that.

see ya
ken
Title: Re: Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!
Post by: Tim on March 22, 2017, 06:44:27 pm
Many new rigs do not have solenoids. The RV industry realized it was causing more issues that it was worth.