Looking for 40' 2000 Foretravel with one slide
Budget $75,000.00
Please advise
Red Apple
2000 Foretravel U320 40 Priced at $ 79500 (http://motorhomesoftexas.com/coachrv/foretravel/2000--u320--40--C1929)
Try MOT Nacogdoches ; here's a couple or so
ALL Pre Owned motorhomes Inventory (http://motorhomesoftexas.com/c#/coachesrv/all/default/foretravel/all/all)
C1929 does not have the kitchen area and other things desired by a couple I have been trying to help. I do not know if it is Red Tractor.
I told this story........ About five years ago, Dewayne asked me to find him this coach.....
1. Price less than $90,000
2. One slide
3. Foretravel 320 40 ft
I told Dwayne....i can meet any two of your criteria but not all three.
My new Forum friend said C1929 had two key design areas they did not like. Could one be found to meet everything and the vital three main demands....price, slide and 320? I think that a very small universe.
Thus...is it reasonable that one can in one year find a one slide, 40 ft 320 for $75,000 and meet all your other desires? Or will you almost certainly need to make compromises such as kichen design that you can meet the price point, slide, and Foretravel?
Our 2001 would meet your needs except for price.
Matthew and Rob
Rob, why not give him details on your coach?
I suggested posting that if he is looking for this or that, post it as a member may have one and just not thought much about selling....until they see this. I know deals have come about that way. Maybe put his search in the classified.
Members might help with a good dialogue of the market prices. My admonition - you cannot (reasonably) spend too much for quality, do not spend your last dollar to buy, do not wait for the perfect coach that has every little item checked.
A $15,000 difference may be the buying difference in a really good coach and a really poor choice but in fact after you buy it the cheaper could be much greater!
There are lots of advantages in an 2001 compared to an 2000. Dash, ducted air, painted graphics and more. Look at both before you choose.
The dash is subjective (I've heard some complaints) and the 2000 has ducted air. I have a custom paint job on mine, but I did not know the 2000s had decals. The 2001 models have a "cool" looking ceiling with back lighting and a hinged radiator grill. Don't they also have a better finish on the wheels?
More importantly is the length, where the entry door is and number of slides. Bedroom slide might mean no cross ventilation or view out the passenger side and very restricted access to the engine compartment from the top.
Sven, wish you right but I think the hinged radiatof grill debut was 2002
Sven, ducted air on the 2000 ends at the kitchen, in the 2001 it goes all the way to the front. This is a big advantage for cooling. Paint may have been an option and many have done it later. I haven't heard complaints about the dash design. Some might like the older design but I thought it had a newer more current look that at some point down the road might be a selling advantage. I have never been a fan of a bedroom closet slide.
I am pretty sure my wheels are DuraBrights but they were very early in that series of wheels. They stay nice and shiny.
Interior decor on the 2001 is different as well. Most of this is what you want and are happy with. It is always worth a close look to see the differences especially when there are many. The 2000 - 2001 U320's had lots more changes than say 1999 - 2000.
Ducted air on 2001 a really nice feature.
Can be easily retrofitted to earlier coaches at FT. Mine was recently completed for $1,000 by Mr Flanagan's crew
My '99 was retro-fitted to front ducting when I bought it. Thought it was factory until I saw pictures on the Forum of what it looked like originally.
Like to thank all of you for input thus far!
Do anyone know anything about the 2000 Foretravel in Eugene, OR link below
2000 Foretravel Motorcoach Unicoach U320, Class A - Diesel RV For Sale in... (http://www.rvt.com/Foretravel-Motorcoach-Unicoach-U320-2000-Eugene-OR-ID6485047-UX45547)
If so please advise, thank you
Lots of miles
Not a problem with proper maintenance.
Roland
George Sutton is a class act, and has been around for years. One of the few I'd deal with. As far as the mileage, as mentioned, as long as there is paperwork, it would not concern me. ^.^d
Valve adjustment, brakes, tires, fuel lines, slide bladder, air bags, alignment, transmission and lots more stuff that should have been done on a coach of this age. If not you will be doing all of them soon. A much lower mileage coach may defer these costs or spread them out over time. Roland is right with documented records it could be OK. But there is a lot more wear and tear on everything between 100K miles and almost 300K. Get the best possible coach for what you can spend rather than the cheapest possible coach.
Might there be a forum member in the Eugene, OR area be willing to have a look see?
Willing to pay a small fee if need be.
Please advise, Thank you
what would constitute Lots of miles on a diesel that is designed to go 700k to 1mil miles or as I understand even if its 500k
200k in a motorhome would be a lot of miles no? I've seen owners of smaller diesel trucks go over 400k or 500k with no issues
Just wondering as I believe mine has about 180k
I doubt that the dealer paid $50k for the 2000
Yes I have looked at this coach last year in Eugene, OR. Think it is build # 5609
This coach the sales person told me was a former Motorcade presidents(?) coach that they traded in for a Born Free or similar.
It has high mileage, and appears to have been rode hard & put away wet.
We viewed it at a nearby body shop
The slide was all apart .. was sitting outside in the rain withe the slide disassembled , just stuffed (kinda) in the slide hole. Sutton was having a body/repair shop re-do re-construct the slide frame wood work.
Also there is a noticeable "hump" in the bathroom floor just about where the bulkhead would be.(you can feel it barefoot)
Personally I would be very leery unless the current seller can verify that all the issues have been addressed. AND have a qualified person do a "Full meal deal" inspection..
My suggestion is "spend a little more" and get a 2001/2002 or newer coach that doesn't need mega coach bucks of updating
Since mine is #5603, they were obviously stable mates.
I do like the large white numerals around the speedometer!
Trent
"Sven, ducted air on the 2000 ends at the kitchen, in the 2001 it goes all the way to the front."
Roger, my ducted air goes back to the bedroom.
Roger is talking about the ac ducting going forward. 2000's end at front of kitchen, 2001 goes forward to drivers area. I think all of the coaches with ducted air go back to the bedroom.
2000 ceiling and a 2001 ceiling. LR ducting goes all the way to the front.
$75K for a well maintained 2001 or 2000 might be a little low. Keep looking. We found ours through a sales guy at a small RV dealer. He knew of one that "might" be available. Later that afternoon we saw her and bought her the next morning. The owner had great records of inspections and repairs - However the company that did the inspections and repairs charged her for things they did not fix. After 4 years and a number of re-repairs and coach bucks we got her in pretty good shape - not perfect but better than most of her age.
Even with records - does not necessarily mean that the jobs/repairs have been done correctly. Any time you purchase one of these things you must anticipate spending some additional dough. Most folks think that 10K will get you started. :)
Scott, RT has what looks like a good prospect. Time will tell....not ideal but reason to hope with owner's apparent openness and knowledge and desire to help that in time RT will get a FT, not have to switch to SOB though some of those could be options. RT is such a nice fellow, want him to get where he wants to go in his search.
Hope you and Carol well, miss you in Hill Country...Dave Cobb doing well here, pourtravel time relaxing yesterday with Tuscany owners after our trip to an olive ranch at Wimberly and lunch on cypress creek at Inoz.
"Even with records - does not necessarily mean that the jobs/repairs have been done correctly. Any time you purchase one of these things you must anticipate spending some additional dough. Most folks think that 10K will get you started."
I was able to talk to the original owner (previous to the one I purchased from) and he sent me a file of receipts that was helpful. I saw a number of repairs and charges that seemed to be unwarranted. For example, a valve adjustment at 48,000 miles. There were also several radiator flushes and attempts at dealing with over heating issues. I have no idea if they put in stop leak products, which may have contributed to the problem.
We bought our 2000 u320 for $83k (it had updated front end and full body paint from Precision Painting) last year, and have spent an additional $19,000 so far, using my own labor. I found that, even though two different shops (RV place and heavy truck) inspected it prior to my arrival, it was no where near being in "excellent condition" - I suspect that the shops in this small Iowa town had their loyalties to the owner. We went through with the purchase because we would never find another 36' mid entry with an ISM. The point here, is that you should make your purchase based on what you are looking for. We knew we could fix the problems, but could not make a rig shorter or change the entry. I just wish the parts weren't so damned expensive!
10 CBs will only get your feet wet, we talked about that a while ago, and agreed 20CBs is prolly a better estimate, given labor & parts increases. :'(
20K that's lots of $$$. Seems folk throw that around like it's nothing. I bought mine in 05 and haven't spent that yet including new air bags, and floors blinds Tv's ect. Although I did a it myself.
I think the amounts of CB spoken about have to be divided into a couple of parts. If it is maintaining the coach ie oils, service, tires and all the normal things that wear out then this cannot be added into the equation as it has to be done by everyone to keep it running smooth and safe.
Some can do their own general servicing and that will be a bonus over those that cannot or choose not too.
The next item is- "what we want to do to make it more appealing to us, the owner. This also cannot be added as each of us have different ideas of what is important to "our" lifestyle.
Now this next one to me is the one that matters. You spend the money to buy the coach then find out that the last owner did not do servicing or told untruths about the condition of the coach and as you supposedly paid normal market price for it you NOW have to spend money to get it to this point!!
I have spent zero dollars to get it to a condition it should be for the age of it, BUT I have spent around $9k to get it to what we want eg, solar + batteries,res' fridge and new pull out cabinet, new flooring's and tiling. Along with new upholstery and window valance mat'l, LED lighting inside and out. Luckily I was able to do all of these things so our cost was a fraction of CBcity.
I think if each owner looks at it under these guidelines they will find that actually the cost is not that great after all.
John
To me, there is a freedom about owning a MH akin to few other things. We know
who slept in our bed last night. We know the linens are clean. There is no check
in/out times like a motel (of course CGs do) but if I am rested I can drive until
I get tired, then hunt a Walmart for the night and we can sleep in until the traffic
rush has slowed down. If we are in a place we like we can stay another week. We can
go North in the summer, when it gets hot here and head South in the winter.
Retirement is freedom, retirement with your own portable house is great. Had
friends a few years ago that had farmed all their lives and decided to let the
kids take over and they would travel. They headed East to Pa. and found all CG's
were full so they headed out through the country side and saw a farm with an RV
where they were baling hay. They pulled in and asked if they could pay them to
park overnight? Long story short the farmer had two hookups, one empty. They stayed,
he helped bale hay for a week and they have headed back to Pa. every summer since. As one person
on here said, "you meet the nicest people in a Foretravel' and this seems true. Oh and by
the way. The people from Pa. are going to buy a FT and they come every January and February
to help my friends for a few weeks and they all head out together exploring, usually to the Rio
Grand Valley. Can life get any better?
Carter-