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Title: Sauer Danfoss fan part number?
Post by: Numbers on April 05, 2017, 02:23:01 pm
Does anyone know the actual Sauer Danfoss hydraulic fan part numbers for the following FT part numbers.  Engine is a Cummins M11 450 HP:

P36583 (fan without thermo valve assembly on the bottom)

P36584 (with thermo assembly):  My unit has the following engraved on the side:  SHM2 / 22  C002  RPN2E / 7G

I can't get to the second fan motor to check if the part number for the motor body is different.  Having a radiator replaced soon and want to make sure parts are lined up if needed.

Thanks,
Chris
Title: Re: Sauer Danfoss fan part number?
Post by: Texas Guy on April 05, 2017, 05:01:47 pm
Try a PM to Saddlesore. He has just replaced both pumps.

Carter-
Title: Re: Sauer Danfoss fan part number?
Post by: amos.harrison on April 06, 2017, 09:53:53 am
Bernd rebuilt both my pumps.  Perfect results.
Title: Re: Sauer Danfoss fan part number?
Post by: Michelle on April 06, 2017, 10:42:47 am
Does anyone know the actual Sauer Danfoss hydraulic fan part numbers for the following FT part numbers.  Engine is a Cummins M11 450 HP:

P36583 (fan without thermo valve assembly on the bottom)

P36584 (with thermo assembly):  My unit has the following engraved on the side:  SHM2 / 22  C002  RPN2E / 7G

Here ya go.  My info says these go back to build number 4590

P36583 B12121-00800 1 EA MOTOR, HYDRAULIC FAN SYSTEM 4590

P36584 B5511-00865183 1 EA MOTOR, HYD. FAN W/THERMO VALVE 4590

Title: Re: Sauer Danfoss fan part number?
Post by: Numbers on April 06, 2017, 01:13:15 pm
Thanks everybody!

Chris
Title: Re: Sauer Danfoss fan part number?
Post by: Sven and Kristi on April 06, 2017, 07:16:30 pm
This just came in (photo).  Note the supplier on the lower right corner.
Title: Re: Sauer Danfoss fan part number?
Post by: JohnNjus on May 09, 2017, 01:38:36 am
Information note:  Sauer Danfoss has now become Danfoss.  Berendsen Fluid Power is a distributor for Danfoss products
Title: Re: Sauer Danfoss fan part number?
Post by: floridarandy on October 30, 2017, 01:01:51 pm
I am resurrecting this thread to add the following:

Inspection of our 34' indicates one of the hydraulic fans has had a small leak at some point in the past.  Not enough to cause immediate concern but enough to research parts to replace.  I understand form this thread that the motors are repairable but for this post I'm curious in the following:

1.  The attached drawing forwarded to me by Brad in FT Parts shows two different fans.  It appears to show that they are BOTH used.  Is it true that 2 different fans are used, one with and one without the thermo valve?
 2.  Brad indicated there are two different size fans used...21" and 22".  I'm not at the coach as I write this post so I can't check what we have installed but is it likely that different fan sizes were used on each of the different motors?  Or different fan sizes used on the same motors?

You'll see the FT prices for the motor only.  From this thread it appears I may be able to source the motors elsewhere.  Haven't gone to that trouble yet but I'm curious from those who might have dealt with this issue if the outside prices are substantially different.  Also what others may have paid to have the motors rebuilt.

Thanks, as always.

Randy
Title: Re: Sauer Danfoss fan part number?
Post by: Sven and Kristi on October 31, 2017, 06:57:21 am
Randy, I found that rebuilding the motors was pretty painless; I did this while my radiator was out, for that reason and one of the motors was leaking.  The numbers are very difficult to read while everything is still mounted and oxidation of the housing and data plate added to the problem.  I did the work this spring on my coach which has the ISM engine and may be different from yours, but we have the same model year.  My fan (blade) sizes were identical.  I'll try to find a photo I took of the backside when I reassembled the fans and brackets to the radiator. I'm also adding notes I took regarding sourcing:
"In between all the other details in my current project, I rebuilt the fan motors and wanted to  pass along some details.  My fan motors are Saur Sundstrand 551101142183 (need this # for any tech support).  Foretravel # (not good anywhere but FT): P36583 and P36584 (has valve attached to bottom).  The seal kit is 221.20.034OK and it includes the shaft seal.  Turolla in Ames, IA,, a division of Danfoss is where you need to go for tech support (515) 239-6677 and they will direct you to Berendsen Fluid Power (800) 722-4975 for the seal kit.
Torque for 4 housing bolts is 45#.  The shaft nut is 32-41#  They didn't have torque specs. for the fan blade bolts, but I don't think that is critical as long as you tighten them evenly."
Title: Re: Sauer Danfoss fan part number?
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on October 31, 2017, 07:45:01 am
Purty blue hoses!  What is the round black horizontal cylinder below the right fan motor?
Title: Re: Sauer Danfoss fan part number?
Post by: Sven and Kristi on October 31, 2017, 06:52:09 pm
Purty blue hoses!  What is the round black horizontal cylinder below the right fan motor?
The cylinder is the new transmission cooler.  I still have the old one which looks functional, other than having a rusty housing.