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Title: Diesel fuel fill opening too small
Post by: nitehawk on May 23, 2017, 10:06:17 am
I will try again on this subject.
Our fill opening will let the larger--and now more common than ever, it seems--fuel nozzle only go a couple inches into our fill port. I have to hold the nozzle and keep it from bottoming out or the fuel sputters back from the air trying to get by the nozzle.
The nozzle is quite heavy and gets to be a real PITA after holding it awhile.
Has anyone found a tank opening to replace the small one, with the larger opening?
Our metal opening tube goes just a little ways down inside the coach wall and then has a rubber hose clamped on it that acts as an interface between the fill and the tank.
The fill opening has a flange that is bolted to the opening behind the locking fuel door.
Title: Re: Diesel fuel fill opening too small
Post by: Protech Racing on May 23, 2017, 10:14:12 am
Same. I will look into  it also .
Title: Re: Diesel fuel fill opening too small
Post by: Pamela & Mike on May 23, 2017, 10:33:56 am
Nitehawk,

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Pamela & Mike
Title: Re: Diesel fuel fill opening too small
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on May 23, 2017, 10:35:19 am
A dicey situation with the nozzles, for sure. On our maiden voyage, I fueled at a truck stop and (stupidly) figured the large nozzle would work. Yes, it went in, but after fueling, the spring on the nozzle got caught in the opening and I could not remove the nozzle.
Hmm, a rookie move, for sure, I finally got it out and learned a valuable lesson!
Title: Re: Diesel fuel fill opening too small
Post by: Texas Guy on May 23, 2017, 02:03:14 pm
Maybe disconnect the rubber hose and cover it.

Then take a Dremel Tool to the opening until it

will accept the larger nozzle? Wash the new

opening before reattaching the rubber hose.

Carter-
Title: Re: Diesel fuel fill opening too small
Post by: nitehawk on May 23, 2017, 02:12:26 pm
Sorry Carter, I don't think the metal is all that thick. It would take more than the wall thickness to let the nozzle go all the way in.
Mike's post seems to have the solution so it goes on my list---after I get this darn mouse issue in our generator taken care of. I have to remove the exhaust, then remove the gen, then remove the shrouding, then remove the mouse modifications. But this all has to wait for dry weather as the coach is outside, next to the lawn.
Title: Re: Diesel fuel fill opening too small
Post by: Texas Guy on May 23, 2017, 02:25:51 pm
Maybe you ought to  S H O E  G O O  that mouse?

Carter-
Title: Re: Diesel fuel fill opening too small
Post by: nitehawk on May 23, 2017, 02:29:07 pm
Heck, got a great idea!! Catch the destructive cottontail rabbits that are devouring/killing my trees & flowers, and blaze orange painting their cute little cotton tails and then releasing them at a trap shooting range!! >:D  >:D
Title: Re: Diesel fuel fill opening too small
Post by: Caflashbob on May 23, 2017, 04:54:52 pm
I remember having to use the automotive diesel pumps on the OREDS.

The pipe down from the fill hole was fairly long and if filling too fast would kick off the hold on on the nozzle.

Best help was to drop the jacks and then all the air then raise the front end up to the limit of the jacks travel. 

Front tires in the air.

Now it was a better downhill angle into the tank.  Would get the last 10-15 gallons in the tank that way that was nearly impossible level.

The full extension of the front drops the air in the front bags so when restarting the coach and taking the coach down the front would bottom out for a few minutes until air pressure built up to get back to ride height.

Careful as the rears are the parking brake.

I used to look for uphill fill lanes to accentuate the fill pipes uphill orientation.  Then drop and then raise the coach.

Wasn't faster but the non stop max fill helped
Title: Re: Diesel fuel fill opening too small
Post by: Old phart phred on May 23, 2017, 05:33:11 pm
Heck, got a great idea!! Catch the destructive cottontail rabbits that are devouring/killing my trees & flowers, and blaze orange painting their cute little cotton tails and then releasing them at a trap shooting range!! >:D  >:D
Rodent problems? I thought you were a hawk with ninja like reflexs, and rodents would not be a problem.

While you poking around on the fuel tank, you might look for someplace to connect an auxillary vent to help prevent the sputtering. Gots to be a solution, aside from modifying each truck stops fuel nozzles with a sawzall.
Title: Re: Diesel fuel fill opening too small
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on May 23, 2017, 06:51:00 pm
Fill up where they have smaller nozzles that your tanks was designed to use.
Title: Re: Diesel fuel fill opening too small
Post by: red tractor on May 23, 2017, 07:20:50 pm
Another problem with the tanks on the ORED coaches was the fill hose goes in at about the middle of the tank, which makes for very slow filling to get full. I doubt that having a larger fill opening will help all that much.
Title: Re: Diesel fuel fill opening too small
Post by: nitehawk on May 23, 2017, 08:30:11 pm
I don't seem able to intuit which diesel fillups have the smaller nozzles before pulling up to a pump. Maybe the stations should put up signs for us poor folks that drive these undersized fill opening coaches.
Title: Re: Diesel fuel fill opening too small
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on May 23, 2017, 08:30:50 pm
I Googled "diesel fuel nozzle adapter" and got a bunch of hits.  Apparently many diesel powered imports have small fuel filler openings that don't work well with common pump nozzles.  So they make adapters that go on the end of the nozzle, and stick down into the filler hole.  Don't know that this would help the situation under discussion, because you would still have to hold the nozzle in position...

At least you're not alone in your misery!  8)