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Title: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: Yetch on May 29, 2017, 11:02:12 am
Coach won't start.  No power going to ignition or dash lights when key is turned.  Any suggestions.
Thanks, Mike
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: craneman on May 29, 2017, 11:04:08 am
Do you have a volt meter? Check start batteries. Have you tried the boost switch?
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: jcus on May 29, 2017, 11:09:16 am
Look at big silver solenoid on left of fwd pass fuse panel, should have 12 volts on both big terminals when key on.
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: Dave Head on May 29, 2017, 11:09:20 am
Smack the relay in the big fuse area in front of the passenger.
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: Yetch on May 29, 2017, 11:18:53 am
Are you talking about the large wiring harness behind the cover in right side of dash in front of entrance?
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: Doug W. on May 29, 2017, 11:21:25 am
Smack the relay in the big fuse area in front of the passenger.

Agree with what Dave said.
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: jcus on May 29, 2017, 11:22:01 am
yes
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: Yetch on May 29, 2017, 11:24:04 am
I don't see any big solenoid, just wiring terminals, no fuses at all.
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: jcus on May 29, 2017, 11:26:06 am
I don't see any big solenoid, just wiring terminals, no fuses at all.
solonoid looks small can with two big and two small terminals on it. Should be left side when you remove the panel.
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: jcus on May 29, 2017, 11:27:54 am
solonoid looks small can with two big and two small terminals on it. Should be left side when you remove the panel.

all those small square things with a wire on both sides are fuse/ breakers.
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: Yetch on May 29, 2017, 11:29:47 am
Nothing like that on mycoach
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: jcus on May 29, 2017, 11:32:25 am
You must have had major rewiring. Can you send a picture?
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: Barry & Cindy on May 29, 2017, 11:56:30 am
Ignition Relay has larger size cable attached and is usually bottom center on the big circuit breaker panel in front of the co-pilot chair.  This relay is likely the problem or the ignition switch is the problem.  When you turn the ignition key on, it activates the important Ignition Relay, which powers dash, etc.
Also is door 'salesman' switch accidently turned off.  Cycle the switch handle.
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on May 29, 2017, 12:00:07 pm
Unless a solid state solenoid has been fitted, you will have an ignition solenoid like this one under the lid on the dash. Amazon.com: Cole Hersee 24213 12V 200A Continuous Solenoid: Automotive (https://www.amazon.com/Cole-Hersee-24213-Continuous-Solenoid/dp/B005K2429I)

It will have the largest cables to it. There will also be a ground close by to attach the test light or meter to. One side should be "hot" and with the key on, both hot.

Check engine batteries at the cables leading from the batteries not just the posts. If any doubt, pull the cables off and clean including the battery posts. Many times this is the problem.

As Berry says, make sure you didn't accidentally kick the "salesman" switch. Cycle it.

Pierce
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: jcus on May 29, 2017, 12:30:39 pm
I am a little confused. What does salesman switch have to do with starting the coach. In all my coaches, engine and engine start system is completely separate from house system and coaches will start with salesman switch off.
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: Tim Fiedler on May 29, 2017, 12:37:50 pm
Salesman switch should Ave no e;;EMC on engine start - but solenoid and ignition switch in that order likely culprits.
You have that solenoid somewhere, keep looking
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: Yetch on May 29, 2017, 12:42:24 pm
On the phone with mot. Going to replace engine batteries. Will check in later. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: jcus on May 29, 2017, 12:43:17 pm
This should help.    http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?action=media;sa=album;in=440
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: John44 on May 29, 2017, 12:47:31 pm
First thing is make sure your start batteries have full charge.
Title: Re: Coach won't start, need assistance
Post by: Yetch on May 29, 2017, 03:55:26 pm
Thanks for all the help.  Up and running, at least to get me up to my working campground.  Still believe it is something other Thant he batteries, as they all checked out ok.  Will replace the solenoid relay when I can later this week.
Thanks again, Mike