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Title: Time for new tires (and other stuff)...
Post by: Bill & Kim on July 17, 2017, 08:11:43 pm
Headed up to Nac first week or so of August to get some body work done at Extreme (some delam work) and then new tires at MOT.  We're looking at Toyos so here's my question - we've got a 36' with two slides so I'm looking at going with the 16-ply steer tires all around mainly because of weight - we'll be full timing again.  I'm thinking the stiffer sidewall would add more support and safety on the road.  I am careful not to overload - just want a good margin of error with tires... 

Any suggestions or recommendations?

Of course, after this visit to Nac, I could probably use a little weight heading out as my rear pocket's gonna to be awfully light...

Title: Re: Time for new tires (and other stuff)...
Post by: craneman on July 17, 2017, 08:21:09 pm
I am using Toyo's 177 load rage H rides fine for me.
Title: Re: Time for new tires (and other stuff)...
Post by: Bill & Kim on July 17, 2017, 08:32:06 pm
I am using Toyo's 177 load rage H rides fine for me.

Are yours steer in front, drives on the rear or steer all around, Chuck?
Title: Re: Time for new tires (and other stuff)...
Post by: craneman on July 17, 2017, 09:00:15 pm
Drives on the rear. I have Dunlop SP 384's load range H on the front. The tire store I buy my Crane tires from that I have been dealing with for 39 years checks prices and gives me a list to check out and I buy what ever is best rated at a good price.
Title: Re: Time for new tires (and other stuff)...
Post by: RvTrvlr on July 17, 2017, 09:10:34 pm
I was amazed how much traction my "all position highway rib" bridgestones gave me thru 16" of snow in Ellicottville, NY.

I will go with six identical tires all around when I replace these. It works fine for me.
Title: Re: Time for new tires (and other stuff)...
Post by: John and Stacey on July 18, 2017, 09:37:57 am
I also am using H Rated Toyo M177's in all positions. Drives great.
John
Title: Re: Time for new tires (and other stuff)...
Post by: Dub on July 18, 2017, 03:37:15 pm
Depending on the tread left on your old tires, they have value. You will probably get the song and dance out dated casings but log haulers will buy them all day regardless of a date. I got $80.00 each for mine and the tire dealer bought them knowing they would sell to local loggers. I know most places have you over the barrel knowing you wont leave with 6 tires stuffed in your basement and will probably charge you a disposal fee and turn around and sell them. East Tx is crawling with log and wood chip haulers. If nothing else I would get in the yellow pages and call some loggers and chip haulers in the area. I'm not referring to MOT in particular because personally I don't know the people so for all I know they may buy them from you. My only point is they have value and there is a market for them.
Title: Re: Time for new tires (and other stuff)...
Post by: Bill & Kim on July 18, 2017, 04:55:43 pm
Thanks, Dub, good advice.
Title: Re: Time for new tires (and other stuff)...
Post by: Caflashbob on July 18, 2017, 07:26:27 pm
Parkhouse tire in Santa Ana, ca. The FMCA dealer bought my 10 year old rears xza2's and the 7 year old fronts for $50 each.

Sidewalls had surface cracking.  No rust inside upon inspection after removal
Title: Re: Time for new tires (and other stuff)...
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on July 18, 2017, 07:44:25 pm
You will probably get the song and dance out dated casings but log haulers will buy them all day regardless of a date.

Comforting thought.
Title: Re: Time for new tires (and other stuff)...
Post by: amos.harrison on July 19, 2017, 10:52:29 am
I got $75 from Herman Tire in Nac for my 10 year old tires with no surface cracking but wouldn't give me anything on those that showed surface cracking when they flexed the sidewalls.  Oh, well.
Title: Re: Time for new tires (and other stuff)...
Post by: Jimmyjnr on July 19, 2017, 11:35:37 am
Same at les schwab, nothing for Michelins with sidewall cracks
Title: Re: Time for new tires (and other stuff)...
Post by: TexasPop on July 20, 2017, 09:54:43 am
 I know people are high on the Toyo's and for good reason but I went with the Continentals thru FMCA.  Purchased thru Conti dealer - Southern Tire Mart in Deer Park.  They went out of their way to find six new 10R22.5 from different stores.  Paid $50 per tire for M&B. NO SHIPPING CHARGE.  I've had Conti's on a Cycle, Car & SUV and felt they were just as good as my Michelins or Bridgestones.  My GV's tires were over 12 yrs old and I couldn't go over 65.  Now it's smooth and confidant at 75.  I had a couple of different reasons for choosing them:

> Continental's are made right here in USA in a 2yr old manufacturing facility.  Toyo's are made in Japan.
Application specific - The HSR2's are made for All Position, Regional, On/Off road hauling, People and Goods service.  Not just a trucking tire.

> HSR2 compete with XZE2, Goodyears-G661HSA and Bridgestone-R250F.  Actually wanted the Coach HA3 which is the same as G670 RV, but not in my size.

> More line up to choose from specific to your needs.  Being 3 times the size of Toyo and slightly behind Goodyear, as German based I believe Conti's designs are better in line with commercial usage since they can spend more money for research for demanding and  extensive European coverage.
Europe requires that all tires are tested for Fuel economy, Road handling & weather, and lastly noise reading.  I attached the HSR2.

> Smartway Certified for Steer and Drive as Fuel Saving.

> Lastly, better price.  HSR2 list $536, paid $355. Toyo M170 $360+37ship. I paid $2550 total.
 
I have no investment in Conti.  Spent over a month evaluating my choices and based on research and my experience.  I attached their line-up comparison and people mover charts. 



Title: Re: Time for new tires (and other stuff)...
Post by: Dub on July 20, 2017, 01:11:45 pm
Pop....that's a darn good price on a quality tire.
Title: Re: Time for new tires (and other stuff)...
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on July 20, 2017, 02:32:44 pm
We have a year old set of Continentals on our S320. Nice riding and quiet tire. I could care less whether it's made in Botswana or Burbank as long as the quality is good. Don't know about today but back in the '80s, the U.S. tested tires at their speed rating for 2 hours while Europe tested for 24 hours.

Have been using Continental products in the auto industry for many years. We did have a issue for a couple of years with some Continentals on new 300Ds being out of round but fixed now. Firestone fan belts stretched continuously so used only Continental belts as most in the business did. They make great fuel injection hose.

Pierce