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Title: Slide Toppers
Post by: ltg on July 27, 2017, 11:14:24 am
Some Foretravels with slides have Slide Toppers and some do not. It is a personal preference like window awnings. Or is there another reason why some have them and others no not.
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: DavidS on July 27, 2017, 11:29:11 am
Personally I like them. Keeps debris off it and helps with rain and shade.

Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: Mark Duckworth on July 27, 2017, 11:33:27 am
Some Foretravels with slides have Slide Toppers and some do not. It is a personal preference like window awnings. Or is there another reason why some have them and others no not.
We have them.  Didn't realize they were optional.
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: Darrell LeBeau on July 27, 2017, 01:12:12 pm
We ordered ours without. I think they put them on all production models.
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: kb0zke on July 28, 2017, 08:57:19 pm
This is discussed a lot on the general RV forums I follow. Those who like them point out that they keep debris off of the top of the slide. Those who don't like them point out that when the wind blows just right they make an awful noise. We took care of the question by buying a coach that has no slides.
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: valento on June 28, 2018, 02:19:41 pm
Getting ready to order a Foretravel ic-37 in a few months and wanted to get opinions and lessons learned from those who have slide toppers.  My current coach does not have them.  I have seen others with them and as has been said above they seem to either love them or hate them.  We tend to camp in windy locations and try to stay out from under trees - I hate tree sap! 

I am currently inclined to order my coach without slide toppers for it is just one more potential issue to deal with.  However, if those that have them provide a convincing reason why they are a must have I may reconsider.

Thank you in advance for those that take the time to provide input.

Oscar
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: folivier on June 28, 2018, 03:55:52 pm
Oscar we had them on our Newell.  They did make noise especially with gusty winds.  I solved that problem by putting pool noodles under them when it was windy.  Once we were in Boulder and had 1' snow on top of the topper.  Took a while to remove all of that so I could bring in the slide without damaging the topper.
Another time the Zipdee spring had frozen up and while extending the bedroom slide the room jarred some.  Ended up tearing the fabric and actually separated the aluminum skin a bit.  Had to re-caulk that.  I was able to spray Corrosion X into the spring housing to release it.  So they can be troublesome.
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on June 28, 2018, 03:56:35 pm
If they are like the one on our 2001 where the roller can continue out past the slide to make an awning then I would get them.  With the awning pulled out they do a really good job of shedding water.  If the awning out over the window is not pulled out then water can puddle up betwwen the roller and the roof line as the awning fabric sags.  Our awning has a single center pull strap that fits on the center slide mounted hook.  In windy conditions one corner can lift up so we generally tie each end of the awning to a point near each end of the slide.

If you are avoiding trees then you are likely going to be in the sun and any awnings make a big difference keeping the coach cooler.  Get real opening windows if you can and lighter exterior colors.
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: valento on June 28, 2018, 06:04:21 pm
Roger,

I believe they will be similar to what they have on the IH-45 and they just cover the slide top, they do not continue on over the windows.

Yes, I will ask for white topped slide outs above the radius so from the ground you will not be able to see that it is white.  My current coach has black on top of two of the slide outs and you could cook an egg up there with the sun shining on it.  The lighter gold topped slide outs are not too bad.  My coach has some pretty good insulation so I do not get a lot of heat passing through.  If the wind is not blowing too hard I have roof awning on both driver and passenger sides that cover the slide outs.

So with the input I have gotten thus far I would say that I am best to go with no slide toppers.

Thank you,
Oscar
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: Dick Henry on June 28, 2018, 06:11:50 pm
I agree with everything Roger says. The window shade benifit offsets the other negatives in my opinion. Debris still can get under the topper sometimes so before I retract the slides I will use a dust mop to wipe the top of the slide off. I don't want to take the chance of puncturing a bladder slide seal. For that matter even if you don't have toppers you should check or wipe the top of the slide. Especially if you were under a pine tree. Ice or snow is a problem whether you have slide toppers or not.
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on June 28, 2018, 08:59:03 pm
Oscar, if you have choices then you should be able to choose a slide topper that provides window shading.  Ask.  Expect.  You can get window awnings on an IH45.  I hope they are going to use windows that actually open.  The ones they used on the Phenix and other later models,didn't open or had a little tiny opening section. 

One of the things many really like about the 95-05 models (earlier ones too) was large opening windows that let in lots of cross ventilation.  We spent two weeks next to a 45' Phoenix.  I think it had three tiny opening windows.  Their (somewhat noisey) AC systems (3 or 4) were on all the time.  No window awnings, dark body paint.  We never ran our AC at all.  Windows open, fresh air.

I am very interested to see what the specs and options will be on the iC37.  Livability, storage and comfortable for months at a time on the road are pretty key for me.  And it needs to have most systems maintainable by me.

It will be great to see how this works for you.  Best wishes for a wonderful outcome.

Roger
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: Bill & Kim on June 28, 2018, 09:08:05 pm
Some Foretravels with slides have Slide Toppers and some do not. It is a personal preference like window awnings. Or is there another reason why some have them and others no not.

I've wondered that same thing and this is what I've decided...  While I like the idea of a separate topper for the slide and salon window (shade), over time, the slide awning stretches and when it rains/snows, it pools...  and that can (and has with us), cause a leak through the lock-pin hole.  With a slide topper that pulls out like Roger & Susan recommend (both topper & shade), there is absolutely no pooling (stretched taunt) and you get a side awning to boot.  Sure...  over time it too stretches but nothing like the two separate awnings.

The rear closet slide is so narrow as to have negligible issue with water & or snow collection. 

The point here, I think is, does one need a slide topper or not?  So then we get into the "wiper blade" for the slide when the slide is retracting after being exposed to rain, snow, birds, etc...  With a topper, you have a primary cover to help lessen the amount of debris/H2O, frozen or not, that the wiper has to remove. 

Without the topper, whatever lands on top is all the responsibility of that rubber slide to remove. 

In warm climates, it's pliable and effective....  when it's cold...

It ain't.

I've decided that cleaning the top of the slide is good but preventing said debris from landing on it, I'm thinking, is better. 

Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: valento on June 28, 2018, 10:10:12 pm

I am very interested to see what the specs and options will be on the iC37.  Livability, storage and comfortable for months at a time on the road are pretty key for me.  And it needs to have most systems maintainable by me.


Roger, I too am anxious to see the final specs and options for the IC-37.  From what I have gleaned from Foretravel thus far I think they have listened and are trying their best to have the IC-37 be what you have all asked for.  We are full timers downsizing from a 45'+ coach to a 37'+ coach and are excited that it seems to fit our needs.  We will all find out when they publish the final specs and options.
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: Carol & Scott on June 28, 2018, 11:01:33 pm
We like our Awnings too.  ;)
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: valento on June 29, 2018, 12:52:18 am
We love our roof mounted and window awnings too...but do not have toppers that cover just the slide tops.  Trying to get info on how people like their toppers that just cover their slide tops and go out automatically when their slide goes out.

Thanks
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: rbark on June 29, 2018, 01:22:38 am
We have two slide toppers, one for bedroom and one for living room that is also a shade. Have had no issues with either one of them so far. Have replaced the rubber wipers on each once in the 6 years we've had the coach.
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: Dr. Dee on June 30, 2018, 02:14:48 pm
Hi Richard,

I have one topper on a 2003 single slide. It works well except the pull down strap is for ever dropping down and hitting the slide. I have tried rolling and securing by Velcro, throwing it up on the slide roof and finally tying it with a twisty and placing it on the roof. The twisty maneuver works best. Other tan that the topper works great. What is the rubber replacement you mention? I was unaware of that part. 
Come join us in Colorado Springs,

  Lou
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on June 30, 2018, 02:45:41 pm
Dr. Dee,  there is a rubber wiping gasket at the top of the slide.  It's job when it works is to help wipe water and debris off the top of the slide when it retracts.  It is a black rubber thing.  Many of them look white due to age.  It is attached in a channel on the outside of the coach just below the awning mount.  You can get the gasket by the foot at FT or MOT.
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: rbark on June 30, 2018, 06:47:23 pm
Hi Lou,
 What Roger said. Sometimes, when they get old, they will curl in when you retract the slide, then stay like that unless you use something to get them back in place. I use my awing hook/rod to do that.
 Don't think we'll make it to the rally, sorry.
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: turbojack on December 30, 2018, 05:33:48 pm
I know this topic has died for a little but I have gotten a new to me coach that does not have awning over the slideouts, I have a 5th wheel that I keep at the lake and it has awning on the sliders.  When it rains and we get ready to leave and pull the slides in we have to go slow in order for the water to drain off the slide since it puddles on the awning. As you pull in the awning you  can see the leaves that were sitting on the awing fall off.

Since this is my first coach that has slides and no awnings I have not figured out if I want to spend the 6 coach bucks for awning on the slides.  We stayed at the Alamo KOA over Thanksgiving and were parked under a tree that was dropping acorns the whole time we were there. When we were getting ready to leave I pulled out ladder and removed the 10,000 acorns that were sitting on the slides before I ran them in.  I read the manual and it says if it is raining to tilt the RV to the side to let the water run of that side before running the sliders in on that side.  After reading the above posts I was thinking of making a duster that has a 90 on it so I can run it along the top of the slideout to remove all of the leaves or acorns before pulling slides in.

For the ones without slider awnings do you worry about what is on top before your retract the sliders?
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: DavidS on December 30, 2018, 06:09:46 pm
Mine has a piece of trim above the slide that takes a rubber squeegeeing material that cleans the slide as it shuts. Got replacement rubber from foretravel
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: valento on December 30, 2018, 06:39:40 pm
For the ones without slider awnings do you worry about what is on top before your retract the sliders?

I get the ladder out every time and make sure my slide tops are clear of debris before bringing them in.  The worst was when I was in Loveland CO and got put under cottonwood trees during their "cotton" season - what a mess of sap, little pods, and cotton!  I had to go up with a pail of hot soapy water and a dish sponge and clean off all the slide tops before I put them in.  If I had had toppers it would have been even more of a mess to get them all cleaned up before rolling all the crud up.  I will stick with "no" toppers!
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: bbeane on December 30, 2018, 11:33:13 pm
While I don't have slides, I have seen the wind work out some of them.
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: juicesqueezer on December 31, 2018, 10:06:13 am
I get the ladder out every time and make sure my slide tops are clear of debris before bringing them in.  The worst was when I was in Loveland CO and got put under cottonwood trees during their "cotton" season - what a mess of sap, little pods, and cotton!  I had to go up with a pail of hot soapy water and a dish sponge and clean off all the slide tops before I put them in.  If I had had toppers it would have been even more of a mess to get them all cleaned up before rolling all the crud up.  I will stick with "no" toppers!

Oscar, just another reason why we never parked under trees!  With full body paint, it is a nightmare to clean up for one and with slides, just more stuff falling on top!  We just sold a 40' fifth wheel with 4 slides and I went up on the roof each and every time to make sure they were clean of debris.  Had a large squeegee to remove the water, as I just didn't trust the wipers getting rid of all of that water when it rained.  Of course with our '98 Foretravel, we had no slides and found the coach very liveable for full-time use!

Foretravel will be at the Tampa show in January and we plan on attending.  The ic37 is supposed to be there.
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: valento on December 31, 2018, 01:45:29 pm
Joe - I do not park under trees unless absolutely necessary.  We were visiting our daughter and family and that is the only spot they had left that would fit our coach.  We kept a watchful eye out and as soon as another slot came open without trees above we asked to transfer.

Yes, the ic-37 is going to be at the Tampa show.  We will be there Wed and Fri.  We are looking forward to seeing it all put together!  Maybe we will see your there!
Title: Re: Slide Toppers
Post by: juicesqueezer on December 31, 2018, 03:32:09 pm
Joe - I do not park under trees unless absolutely necessary.  We were visiting our daughter and family and that is the only spot they had left that would fit our coach.  We kept a watchful eye out and as soon as another slot came open without trees above we asked to transfer.

Yes, the ic-37 is going to be at the Tampa show.  We will be there Wed and Fri.  We are looking forward to seeing it all put together!  Maybe we will see you there!

Agree on the no trees!  Funny, when we came into a park, the first thing I asked is for a site without trees and they all seemed to question that, but never had a problem with our wish!
We may drive over to Tampa on Wednesday as well, as fewer people on the first day of the show.  Last year, it was slammed and you could hardly get into an RV.  Also, lots of walking.  The inside vendor area has all the latest and greatest gadgets to make one's life on the road more accommodating!  ^.^d  Also, last year we still had our Class C and dry camped on fairgrounds site for a few nights.  Sure made it easier than driving the 100 miles from our home in Okeechobee!  You may see us Wednesday drooling over the new ic-37 for sure!