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Title: Leveling alarm and starting issue.
Post by: Rocky1down on July 29, 2017, 11:23:44 am
Getting ready to leave on vacation. Hooked a trailer up behind out motor home. Got an alarm on the leveling system. Now trying to start motor home again and motor won't start. Could this be related to the leveling system?
We have a 1996 U280
Title: Re: Leveling alarm and starting issue.
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on July 29, 2017, 11:33:08 am
The "boost switch" did nothing?  ???
Title: Re: Leveling alarm and starting issue.
Post by: Rocky1down on July 29, 2017, 11:40:09 am
No, it started fine this morning. He pulled it a little ways up the driveway and hooked the trailer on. He got an alarm on the leveler saying it was out of level. He turned in off and when we tried to start it now it won't start. He said it's like the starter is not kicking in.
Title: Re: Leveling alarm and starting issue.
Post by: wolfe10 on July 29, 2017, 11:52:33 am
What else doesn't work.  We don't know what year model you have (please put that in your signature), but with ignition on if Allison 6 speed, does the shift panel illuminate? Dash HVAC fan work? Gauges?

When you say "starter not kicking in", do you get a "click", does engine turn over but not start?

Looking at the dash voltmeter, what happens with you turn the key to try to start it?  No change? Drops a volt or so? Drops a couple of volts?
Title: Re: Leveling alarm and starting issue.
Post by: Rocky1down on July 29, 2017, 12:14:57 pm
1996 u280
Gauges work no change in D.C. Volts my husband said one of the solenoids behind rear drivers wheel appears burnt
Title: Re: Leveling alarm and starting issue.
Post by: Rocky1down on July 29, 2017, 12:17:39 pm
Engine does not turn over
When first turned on volt meter goes on but goes back up when turned to start.
Title: Re: Leveling alarm and starting issue.
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on July 29, 2017, 12:22:40 pm
Gauges work no change in D.C. Volts my husband said one of the solenoids behind rear drivers wheel appears burnt

We are always here to help, (or confuse).  PLEASE, put your sig and build date down at the bottom. Everyone can help more, as we all have the have the same coaches, but different years, which counts!  ^.^d
Title: Re: Leveling alarm and starting issue.
Post by: wolfe10 on July 29, 2017, 12:24:33 pm
1996 u280
Gauges work no change in D.C. Volts my husband said one of the solenoids behind rear drivers wheel appears burnt

Looks like a good place to start.  As has been discussed in the last day or so, that is a terrible location for electrical components.  Consider moving them as a future project.
Title: Re: Leveling alarm and starting issue.
Post by: kb0zke on July 29, 2017, 12:28:33 pm
Are you in Akron? If so, perhaps a forum member might be close enough to come over. Unfortunately, I'm in SD so not close enough to help.

Do you have a hand-held volt meter? If so, check the battery voltage at the battery bank. Most likely you have two or three batteries in the engine area that are connected together. Carefully disconnect the batteries and check each one. All should be at least 12 volts. If one is less than that you need to replace the battery. Assuming that all of the batteries are good, clean all of the connections and reconnect, making sure that all are tight.

You mentioned a burned solenoid. Obviously that should be replaced, but the question of "why is it burned?" remains. Until you figure that out you run the risk of burning up the new solenoid, too.
Title: Re: Leveling alarm and starting issue.
Post by: Rocky1down on July 29, 2017, 12:40:32 pm
Tried the start button in the rear compartment and it just clicks, it will just click and won't start
Title: Re: Leveling alarm and starting issue.
Post by: wolfe10 on July 29, 2017, 01:07:26 pm
Could be nothing more than a loose or corroded battery terminal. 

Start with the basics:
With a digital voltmeter, check voltage at the chassis batteries: static and then when someone tries to start it.  Let us know what you find.

Also, do the same test at the starter (positive lug to any metal on the engine) static and when someone tries  to start it.

That bad relay can probably be found in most every auto parts house.  Just need to know amp rating and whether intermittent or constant duty.
Title: Re: Leveling alarm and starting issue.
Post by: John Duld on July 29, 2017, 01:09:31 pm
Take a small hammer and gently tap down all battery connections. That would probably show a poor battery connection and is cheep and easy thing to try.
Title: Re: Leveling alarm and starting issue.
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on July 29, 2017, 01:29:28 pm
Probably an engine battery terminal. Tap on the connectors but better yet, remove and clean the connectors and posts. Voltage drop when engaging starter is typical of bad battery connection.

Pierce
Title: Re: Leveling alarm and starting issue.
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on July 29, 2017, 01:51:57 pm
All good suggestions. Not knowing how the "boost switch" is wired, would a bad battery connection on the starter bank delete the boost?
Title: Re: Leveling alarm and starting issue.
Post by: Rocky1down on July 29, 2017, 02:10:02 pm
Got it started. Appeared to be a dead spot on the starter.
Thanks all!
Title: Re: Leveling alarm and starting issue.
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on July 29, 2017, 02:11:32 pm
Got it started. Appeared to be a dead spot on the starter.
Thanks all

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