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Title: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: pugmom on August 31, 2017, 04:18:41 pm
Has anyone seen major truck  stops having difficulty providing fuel?
Gas is getting harder to obtain in Texas and I have seen that gas prices are going up in Charlotte NC on the news. We are currently sitting still, but are planning on moving about mid September.  Just curious as to what other folks are experiencing.
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: Ralph on August 31, 2017, 04:32:20 pm
Gasoline up .52¢, diesel up .25¢ over the last two days locally in southern Illinois, both at $2.499..no supply problem. (yet)

Ralph
96 U270
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: jcus on August 31, 2017, 04:47:45 pm
Just left Buc-ee's in Texas City. Every pump open. Diesel $2.15
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: wolfe10 on August 31, 2017, 04:50:29 pm
Drove from Lubbock to League City yesterday.

No issues all the way to the outskirts of Houston.

League City had the first three stations this morning OUT/closed.
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: sedelange on August 31, 2017, 05:13:05 pm
Pipelines shutdown between Houston and Dallas. A friend of mine filled up yesterday in Arlington for 2.09. Today it was 2.49.  One station 4.49.  Some stations had a line and and others were out of gas. Seems fuel is going to ne spotty.  They will need to truck from Midwest refineries. The 36" and 24" pipelines owned by Colonial serving the Northeast with gasoline and Jet Fuel have been shutdown also.  They will feel the pinch soon.  You don't replace 25% of refining capacity quickly. Refinery in Port Aurthur to be out a minimum of 2 weeks.  Some in oil business say it could be 6 weeks because they have 6' of water in refinery and the Neches river is still rising.
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: bbeane on August 31, 2017, 05:21:36 pm
Colorado City, exit 74 on I-25 up .10 to 2.49 lady at the counter said price is going up again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: John and Stacey on August 31, 2017, 06:16:59 pm
JUst north of Houston, prices remain the same:  Regular, just filled up $1.99, Premium $2.48, and Deisel $2.12.  Only Valero out locally, said 2 trucks on the way.

John
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: John Morales on August 31, 2017, 06:29:22 pm
Prices here in Illinois jumped.  Before the jump regular was $ 2.19
Regular $2.50, Midgrade $2.85, Premium $3.40
John M.
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: wolfe10 on August 31, 2017, 06:41:12 pm
Filled the car in Temple, TX yesterday mid afternoon at Buc-ees: $2.09.  Now (per gasbuddy) $2.18. Not an unreasonable jump.

I think somewhere I read (NO, not on the internet-- in an actual text book)  price was predicated on availability/demand. Availability right now is a real issue-- thanks Harvey.  Ya, not a supply issue (per Valero station owner here in League City I talked to today).  There IS fuel, but delivery has been a real issue-- tanker trucks are NOT amphibious vehicles.

And, with I 10 east of Houston still closed it may be awhile before normal deliveries resume.

Hard to fault the stations/refineries.  THANKS, HARVEY.  The good news, this WAS the 500 year flood per the Weather Bureau.  OK, been there, done that. NO MORE.
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: Miz Dani on August 31, 2017, 08:21:05 pm
Heading up I-75 Sunday, always stop at Bushnell, best prices on the freeway, diesel's only $2.19 there, everywhere else on that corridor is 50 cents higher.....never figured out why Bushnell is cheaper but am happy it is....it's $2.40 to $2.50 all over the Tampa Bay area & $2.75 all over the rest of I-75...
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: rcantrell51 on August 31, 2017, 09:01:00 pm
Yesterday gas was 2.19 in Austin,TX. and today it is 2.49. Drove by four gas stations this afternoon and they had cars lined out into the street waiting to get gas. There is an article at DRUDGE REPORT 2017® (http://www.drudgereport.com) discussing the gas shortage in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area.
Reese
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: NancyS on August 31, 2017, 09:30:11 pm
Look out Phoenix, pipeline from Houston to Phoenix is down.
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: sedelange on August 31, 2017, 09:52:02 pm
Bucees in Waller out of Diesel this afternoon, per good friend.  Local shortages in Austin.  Pipeline from Dallas to Tulsa being referred should help with shortages.  Some of the increase in fuel is because dealers are having t but on spot market and have the fuel trucked in. Likely see at least $0.25/gal above normal Labor Day increase.
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: RvTrvlr on September 01, 2017, 12:27:16 am
Thankfully I am parked with a full tank and dont need to move for two weeks. Hopefully its back to normal. Will limit my consumption until things get back to normal. I usually ride my "toad" yamaha vino 125 scooter to work, one gallon of gas lasts a week of commuting.
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on September 01, 2017, 09:44:37 am
We did hear this morning, fuel is going up in Cali. No change here in AZ (yet), but, we also have a full tank and are not moving until Oct. The little Honda gets such great mileage, it's not a worry.  ^.^d
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: bogeygolfer on September 01, 2017, 09:46:23 am
The good news, this WAS the 500 year flood per the Weather Bureau.  OK, been there, done that. NO MORE.
Just as a side note - I read an interesting statistical interpretation of this: we should really interpret this not as "one bad flood every 500 years" - but as "every year you have a 1 in 500 chance of a flood this bad".  Statistics - they can really be a bummer sometimes.
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: nitehawk on September 01, 2017, 10:03:26 am
Yup, statistics can be misleading.
Example: 100% of people that smoke or have smoked will die. :))
Lab tests proved that rats that were fed Lake Michigan salmon had a high rate of cancer. What it would translate to humans? If a person ate 27# of salmon a day for (?) years they had a higher risk of cancer. Get real!!
Sensationalism news sells. Mundane news doesn't. Get the real facts.
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: Michael & Jackie on September 01, 2017, 10:20:39 am
Read, Freakonomics by Steven D. Levitt
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: wolfe10 on September 01, 2017, 10:59:14 am
Just as a side note - I read an interesting statistical interpretation of this: we should really interpret this not as "one bad flood every 500 years" - but as "every year you have a 1 in 500 chance of a flood this bad".  Statistics - they can really be a bummer sometimes.

Yup, absolutely correct mathematically. Looking forward to a LOT of 499 chances out of 500!
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: lgshoup on September 01, 2017, 01:17:12 pm
Holiday weekend and hurricane are current reasons for increase. Not complaining but thinking they needed some excuse, any excuse, to raise the price. We've got 300 miles left and not going anywhere until second week of October so we'll see what happens. Far cry from 2005-08. As long as I can get it I will burn it!
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: TheBrays on September 02, 2017, 09:06:31 am
GasBuddy has a new fuel-finder site up.

GasBuddy Gasoline Availability Tracker (http://tracker.gasbuddy.com/)

purports  to show locations with fuel.
Title: Re: Fuel and availability post Harvey
Post by: Carol Savournin on September 02, 2017, 02:06:04 pm
When we were in the DQ business, our mix prices depended on the butterfat and milk solid prices.  When our costs went up, we raised the price of everything a nickel. When the costs went back down we raised the price another nickel. Just sayin'.....