Anyone out there have experience installing the new 2.0 system from M & G? Instructions pretty thin as published. Spoke with Monty and he sent some pictures, however they are for a previous version. Going on a 2015 Ford Explorer 2WD and will be using the breakaway system as well. Coach already plumbed by PO for air to the toad. Using a Roadmaster tow bar.
Thanks in advance
Pretty straight forward for me Steve, I installed one on a 2001 Tahoe , and found the hardest part was moving the master cylinder forward to make room. It's nice you have air to the back of the coach. Sorry not much help. Good luck
Andy : New system and you no longer mess around with the master cylinder. Now have an auxiliary vacuum pump and an air cylinder to pull a cable connected to the brake pedal. Only been out a couple of months. Apparently on newer units like our Explorer moving the master cylinder forward not an option. New version is a fit all style. Don't want to start drilling random holes in the DW's car. Take a look at there website.
Thanks
Got some more pictures, info, from Monty at M & G yesterday. Going to try install next week and will attempt to chronicle the install for the groups future use. A real test of my journalistic and picture taking skills. After seeing and using other posts here have a big hill to climb. Will let all know as progress occurs.
Steve
We reviewed the new M&G system. Pretty cool that they found a way to extend their system to fit all vehicles. I do figure that it was going to be a problem to drill a firewall hole in the right place in our busy engine compartment Jeep Grand Cherokee. I would also like to see M&G develop a system that fits completely inside the cabin or up behind the dash, maybe using a pulley to pull brake pedal towards floor. Drilling a firewall hole can be problematic in some vehicles.
Why don't I ever see a Brake Buddy being used on the forum. It is all I have ever used and goes from one vehicle to the next?
Brake Buddy Vantage Select | Newest Towed Braking System (https://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/towing-hitches-jacks-chassis/vehicle-towing/supplemental-braking-systems/towed-vehicle-braking-systems/tow-brakes-brake-buddy_30738?jt=1&jap=1o1&js=1&jsid=36859&jcpid=8a8ae4cd48005458014820e2e0170ec4&jkId=gcp:se_36859:pp_52389290392:ag_15211804824:cp_194253624:n_g:d_c:cr_52737673584&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3uu98oDO1gIVDWx-Ch3QZwp9EAQYASABEgJgQ_D_BwE)
Most of us prefer systems that are controlled by the air brakes so the toad brakes are not applied when we use our retarders.
As far as an "under the seat" permanently mounted toad brake: Roadmaster Inc. - Tow Bars, Braking Systems & RV Accessories (http://www.roadmasterinc.com/products/braking/invisibrake/index.html)
Our toad brake is an air cylinder that we clip to a floor mount and hook over brake pedal. Air tank in Jeep is filled with coach air, and released with 3-way electric air valve triggered by motorhome brake lights or Jeep breakaway switch.
12 volt signal from motorhome brakes is isolated from retarder which by itself will not trigger toad brake. And dash area switches can turn off toad brake all together if desired. Switches also can seal off motorhome air system from a leaking Jeep air connection.
We recently read that a Law Enforcement Officer requested to be shown that the toad breakaway was working. So we tested our breakaway and were pleased to see it activated our air cylinder with being connected to motorhome.
On that same subject of LEO stops, we examined our marker lights and found two of them with partially failed LEDs. Finding LED matching replacements was discussed in a different Forum posting.
I have the settings set where the retarder doesn't apply the brakes. There is a monitor that shows when the toad brakes are being applied. Only on high retard do they apply which I don't mind. However I can see why some people would avoid them. Putting brakes on my Jeep is only about a 20 minute job and the pads are free from Autozone after the first purchase