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Title: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: rbark on November 18, 2017, 09:54:33 pm
But I don't know what it's called. It's a rubber like glue that bonds ( usually) between two pieces of plywood with a covering on them. It's super tacky but still holds its shape when pried off.
 Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: lenspeiser on November 18, 2017, 11:09:45 pm
Richard,
You're not talking about good old contact cement are you?

Len
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: rbark on November 18, 2017, 11:51:22 pm
It seems thicker than that but it does stretch like contact cement.this stuff is still playable after 15 years. It's about 1/16" thick and very hard to remove. Suppose I can call FOT mon and ask them.
Thanks
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: Forewheelers on November 19, 2017, 05:10:14 am
Richard, I'm not sure, but I believe it's called F60. It's a glue that comes in a caulking tube and applied with a caulking gun. The carpenters that built our house used it 35 years ago. Any lumber dealer should have it. Not real sure on the name or number.
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on November 19, 2017, 08:24:57 am
It's probably the same clear stretchy rubber cement they use to stick the plastic bags of bacon together at Sam's and other stores.  I swear that stuff is almost stronger than me.  My wife has to call me to separate the packages, and I am just barely up to the task.  :help:
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: DavidS on November 19, 2017, 12:35:02 pm
Is it white? looks like plumbers putty? but strong and hard to remove.. still sticky after 15 years? Foretravel used it on the awning trim piece on the coach.. piece that connects the canvas to the side of the coach..

whatever that stuff is it is INCREDIBLE!!! to me 45 min to remove the trim of the motorhome above the livingroom slide..
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: rbark on November 19, 2017, 12:48:03 pm
David, probably the same stuff but mine is an amber color. Took me half an hour to remove 3 feet of that stuff in the bathroom.
 Don't think it's a contact cement, more like a contact glue that stays sticky like forever!
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: DavidS on November 19, 2017, 04:46:50 pm
David, probably the same stuff but mine is an amber color. Took me half an hour to remove 3 feet of that stuff in the bathroom.
 Don't think it's a contact cement, more like a contact glue that stays sticky like forever!

Crow bar.. No joke... that was the only thing that would give me the leverage I needed and I straightened the trim piece back out on the back of my truck... whole new meaning "stuck like glue"
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: rbark on November 19, 2017, 06:07:54 pm
Yup, I used a small pry bar to separate the piece of wood from the wall enough to get a sharp knife between the pieces to cut the stuff. Can't find anything like that online😩
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: Jack Lewis on December 19, 2017, 11:20:11 pm
My guess, Amazon.com: sikaflex (https://www.amazon.com/s/?field-keywords=sikaflex&tag=amz-mkt-chr-us-20&ascsubtag=1ba00-01000-a0049-win10-other-nomod-us000-pcomp-feature-scomp-wm-4-wl-ddt0_sce0_prc0_aapi0&ref=bit_scomp_sav0)  and moissture makes it dry, they have different strengths, with different numbers for different purposes. 

I recently sandblasted, and e-coated the steel step inside the fiberglass cover for my entry stair and used this product. Amazon.com: AP Products 017-90916 Sikaflex-252, Black: Automotive (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0080626L2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: Jack Lewis on December 19, 2017, 11:55:35 pm
The stair was rusted all the way around with bad surface rust, now sandblasted and the steel step e-coated, sealed in Sikaflex, now should last another 20 yrs.  I sealed alum rivets in clear silicon, haven't cleaned that part up yet.

If you choose a product of theirs that meets your needs, it is the best adhesive.  Check out their pdf files on their different products. 
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: rbark on December 20, 2017, 01:30:32 am
Jack, not sure about that Sikaflex. The stuff I took off is still playable after 14 years! And still very sticky!
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: Jack Lewis on December 21, 2017, 12:24:11 am
This article might help you:  Sealants — A Sticky Subject - Outside Interests (http://outsideinterests.info/article/sealants-sticky-subject/)
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: Jack Lewis on February 14, 2018, 02:10:59 am
Stair, before and after.  The worst was not the looks.  When raining, and I'd put the stair down, a couple quarts of water would run out slowly, leaving a trail a foot wide by 20 feet.  My darling wife would ask, is that normal?  Sikaflex surface dried fast and hard, as being from Oregon, it was raining.  Sikaflex is cured by moisture.
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on February 14, 2018, 08:44:50 am
Stair looks great!  Now you need to finish the job by replacing the ratty vinyl "curtain" that covers the opening.  Three years ago, I cut up a cheap Walmart door mat as a "temporary" solution to this problem...  It is still hanging there, and still looks pretty good.  Food for thought!
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 14, 2018, 07:53:34 pm
While water accumulation in drop-down step is not normal, what is normal is to have several well-placed drilled holes to drain water when step is up or down.
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 14, 2018, 07:57:00 pm
While water accumulation in drop-down step is not normal, what is normal is to have several well-placed drilled holes to drain water when step is up or down.
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: Jack Lewis on February 15, 2018, 12:27:25 am
Good point Barry, "water accumulation in drop-down step is not normal, what is normal is to have several well-placed drilled holes".  My newly acquired U295 had the rusty edge around the stair letting water in when down, after taking the step apart from the fiberglass, I found all the holes, two maybe three, 95% clogged up with hard rusty metal chips.  Drilled these out as part of the restoration.  So yes, good preventative measure is to  make sure these holes are clear.  The rest of the rv shows no rust, and so my guess is the bulk of this step issue came from the clogged up drain holes.
Title: Re: This stuff is really sticky!
Post by: craneman on February 15, 2018, 12:55:44 am
My '99 didn't have any holes in the step from the factory. After taking off the fiberglass and sandblasting all the rust off I drilled the holes and used rustolium black appliance paint to prevent or at least slow down the rust in the future.