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Title: Boost Solenoid Ground Wire Size
Post by: Super8mm on March 27, 2018, 12:10:28 am
I got my Cole Hersee Solenoid this weekend while I was out of town but now I have another question about it.

My old one has a single small post and the new one has 2 small post.  In going over old post I find it will work but I need to add a ground wire to the post that is unused.

No problem with that but I could not find out the recommended size for the new ground wire.  I have a good assortment of color and sizes in the garage but what might be the best size?

Thanks
Title: Re: Boost Solenoid Ground Wire Size
Post by: bbeane on March 27, 2018, 12:37:35 am
14-18 gauge is fine.
Title: Re: Boost Solenoid Ground Wire Size
Post by: Super8mm on March 27, 2018, 12:44:09 am
Thanks I should have several rolls  in different colors as I use a lot of that on my motorcycles.  ^.^d
Title: Re: Boost Solenoid Ground Wire Size
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on March 27, 2018, 01:00:24 am
It should be no smaller than the white wire from the boost switch (E20 White on my coach) and on mine it looks to be a 12 ga wire.  An oversized ground wire will never hurt.  Use adhesive heat shrink ring terminals or ring terminals with adhesive heat shrink tube.  Use CorrisionX, an electrically conductive grease or your favorite anticorrosion stuff on the terminal and studs.  Same with the big wires hooked to the side studs.  Clean them well before reconnecting.
 
Title: Re: Boost Solenoid Ground Wire Size
Post by: Super8mm on March 27, 2018, 08:06:12 am
Thanks Roger, I am about out of the grease I have been using so I will look up the CorrisionX,  I always pull the plastic off and solder my connections and use heat shrink over them, even on ground wires just for appearance sake.

I will have to check to see if I have any 12 ga, but if I dont I know where to get it  ^.^d
Title: Re: Boost Solenoid Ground Wire Size
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on March 27, 2018, 09:34:17 am
Almost every general duty 12v distribution wire FT used in the coach is 12 ga as are the grounds, there are some 10 ga. Less voltage loss, heavier duty, more robust as is most FT stuff.  LED lighting can use smaller connection wire but the 12v distribution wires still should be bigger.  It never hurts to have some wire along and no matter what needs fixing a bigger wire will almost always work.
Title: Re: Boost Solenoid Ground Wire Size
Post by: Seven7 on March 27, 2018, 11:47:27 am
Brett talks about the 2 posts in this thread.

Boost Solenoid Replacement (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=29897.msg255784#msg255784)
Title: Re: Boost Solenoid Ground Wire Size
Post by: Michael j on March 27, 2018, 12:28:07 pm
Make the new wire (ground) the same size as the other wire that's on the single terminal. Connect the new wire to the Solenoid mounting hardware. 
Title: Re: Boost Solenoid Ground Wire Size
Post by: Gerry Vicha on March 27, 2018, 01:23:30 pm
Make the new wire (ground) the same size as the other wire that's on the single terminal. Connect the new wire to the Solenoid mounting hardware. 
The Ground that allows the solenoid to engage needs to be a chassis ground...
Title: Re: Boost Solenoid Ground Wire Size
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on March 27, 2018, 02:02:11 pm
The Ground that allows the solenoid to engage needs to be a chassis ground...

That is correct.  Many coaches have the boost solenoid mounted to a grounded steel plate in the engine bay.  That is why the single post boost solenoids which were grounded through the case worked fine.  This may not be the case in all coaches.  Find a secure ground point to connect the solenoid ground wire.  My coach has a braided wire from the metal plate down to a rear frame grounded point. 
Title: Re: Boost Solenoid Ground Wire Size
Post by: Super8mm on March 27, 2018, 02:15:57 pm
Brett talks about the 2 posts in this thread.

Boost Solenoid Replacement (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=29897.msg255784#msg255784)
Thanks Seven7 I saw that one but small wire to me can be anything from 14 to 22 ga "LOL"
Title: Re: Boost Solenoid Ground Wire Size
Post by: Super8mm on March 27, 2018, 02:22:09 pm
The Ground that allows the solenoid to engage needs to be a chassis ground...
Thanks I will check the area out and see what I have for grounding
Title: Re: Boost Solenoid Ground Wire Size
Post by: Super8mm on March 27, 2018, 02:23:48 pm
That is correct.  Many coaches have the boost solenoid mounted to a grounded steel plate in the engine bay.  That is why the single post boost solenoids which were grounded through the case worked fine.  This may not be the case in all coaches.  Find a secure ground point to connect the solenoid ground wire.  My coach has a braided wire from the metal plate down to a rear frame grounded point. 
I will check to see if my plate has a ground wire attached, if not I will run a ground from the solenoid to the frame.
Title: Re: Boost Solenoid Ground Wire Size
Post by: wolfe10 on March 27, 2018, 09:07:49 pm
Remember, wire size is based on TWO things:  amps and length of wire run.

The ground for the solenoid is carrying less than ONE amp.  Length is to nearest chassis ground.  14 will be just fine. If the positive wire is very long, yes it will need to be of larger gauge.  And, as with most manufacturers, easier to use the same gauge for many applications, even if they don't need that size for their designated load.
Title: Re: Boost Solenoid Ground Wire Size
Post by: Super8mm on March 27, 2018, 09:54:20 pm
Remember, wire size is based on TWO things:  amps and length of wire run.

The ground for the solenoid is carrying less than ONE amp.  Length is to nearest chassis ground.  14 will be just fine. If the positive wire is very long, yes it will need to be of larger gauge.  And, as with most manufacturers, easier to use the same gauge for many applications, even if they don't need that size for their designated load.
Thanks Brett, I think the Positive is OK but I will look it over good while I have it loose. I will use a ground of same or larger size depending on what I have in my box or wire spools.