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Title: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 01, 2018, 04:11:25 pm
Air Dryer Cartridge 170.DQ6036 in Brake:Air (http://www.vanhorntruckparts.com/product/34272/Air-Dryer-Cartridge-170DQ6036/)
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: DavidS on April 01, 2018, 04:35:50 pm
$80.66 with shipping and handling.. is that a good price?
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 01, 2018, 08:55:33 pm
Best I could find.

DQ6036 by HALDEX - DESICCANT CARTRIDGE (https://www.finditparts.com/products/1884200/haldex-dq6036)
HALDEX 2 LB. DESICCANT CARTRIDGE ONLY FOR PURE AIR PLUS DQ6036 (http://www.truckpartshq.com/haldex-2-lb-desiccant-cartridge-only-for-pure-air-plus-dq6036/)
Haldex® DQ6036 - Desiccant Cartridge (https://www.carid.com/haldex/desiccant-cartridge-mpn-dq6036.html)
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: DavidS on April 01, 2018, 09:16:20 pm
Guess that would make your original post the best price.. I installed the whole unit about a year an a half ago.. will need to get this sometime in the next few months
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: Pamela & Mike on April 01, 2018, 09:27:28 pm
You need to think about rebuilding the lower end with the DQ 6020 and DQ 6031 kits while you are installing new desiccant and coalescing filter.  This is often overlooked and will leave you on the side of the road in case of a failure.

Mike
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: John Haygarth on April 01, 2018, 09:35:26 pm
And, when rebuilding with those parts for the lower end make sure you do the check valve in the bottom of case too.
JohnH
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 02, 2018, 08:45:11 am
You need to think about rebuilding the lower end with the DQ 6020 and DQ 6031 kits while you are installing new desiccant and coalescing filter.  This is often overlooked and will leave you on the side of the road in case of a failure.

Mike

The DQ6036, DQ6020 and DQ6031 add up to over $160.00 combined.  You might as well buy a rebuilt DA33100X for $200.00. 
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: DavidS on April 02, 2018, 09:25:35 am
I think I paid $300 for the whole assembly from Napa
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Post by: Protech Racing on April 02, 2018, 09:38:51 am
 I have a nice dry , working core for 25$ plus boat.
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Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 02, 2018, 10:10:04 am
I think I paid $300 for the whole assembly from Napa

I stand corrected. They were $200.00 at NAPA 1-1/2 years ago but I just checked and it seems they've had a significant price increase since then..............now $284.99.
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Post by: Bill Chaplin on April 02, 2018, 02:54:43 pm
What is the difference between the Haldx and the AD9 ?????
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: Neal Pillsbury on April 02, 2018, 04:08:03 pm
What is the difference between the Haldx and the AD9 ?????
Bill,
On the subject of air dryers (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=26139.msg208768#msg208768)
HTH,
Neal
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: MichaelU295 on April 02, 2018, 11:17:59 pm
Hi T-Man,

Do you know if the DQ6036 include both the Desiccant Cartridge and Coalescing Filter.  The picture shows both but the description only mention the cartridge even in the Haldex website.  Great value if it got both.

Thanks,
Michael
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: Barry & Cindy on April 03, 2018, 12:51:49 am
Michael, looks to me that DQ3036 is ONLY the big heavy desiccant cartridge.  The following also uses the word "only".
Haldex Search (https://www.haldex.com/en/North-America/search/?q=DQ6036) This link also shows it is only desiccant filter without coalescing filter:
Pure Air Plus™ Service Kits - Haldex product category (https://goo.gl/SfAU4P)

Since we only replace the two filters and don't replace the other parts in the filter kit, we could just buy the two filters.
But the best price for just the DQ6032 coalescing filter is $33.
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: Pamela & Mike on April 03, 2018, 04:49:52 am
Michael,

The DQ-6026 is the kit that contains both. The DQ-6036 is only the short desiccant cartridge if it is a true Haldex part.

Mike
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 03, 2018, 08:52:26 am
But the best price for just the DQ6032 coalescing filter is $33.

NEW HALDEX MIDLAND AIR DRYER DRIER COALESCING FILTER KIT DQ6032 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/222329425878?rmvSB=true)
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 04, 2018, 05:33:31 pm
DO NOT BUY THIS..............IT'S MADE IN CHINA!!

Air Dryer Cartridge 170.DQ6036 in Brake:Air (http://www.vanhorntruckparts.com/product/34272/Air-Dryer-Cartridge-170DQ6036/)

The name on it is Automann.      Company - Automann USA, Inc. (https://www.automann.com/company)


My apologies to everyone.  It does however include the coalescing filter.
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Post by: jcus on April 04, 2018, 06:08:45 pm
Bought a genuine Cummins 2 piece exhaust manifold directly from Cummins Parts, not cheap, think about $700+ for the two pieces. Guess what it said on the box when I received it? You guessed it, Made in China.
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: DavidS on April 04, 2018, 08:16:51 pm
Bought a genuine Cummins 2 piece exhaust manifold directly from Cummins Parts, not cheap, think about $700+ for the two pieces. Guess what it said on the box when I received it? You guessed it, Made in China.
I want to say I have seen several arguments.. I mean discussions on other forums on this topic.. Some people are used to it and others havnt realized it lol..
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 05, 2018, 10:51:02 am
Returned the Chinese filter and ordered a genuine Haldex just now.
Lesson learned.
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: jcus on April 05, 2018, 11:07:25 am
Haldex has production plants in 8 different countries.
Haldex (company) - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haldex_)(company)

You just can't tell anymore where something is made.
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Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 05, 2018, 11:20:51 am
I'm sure when the new one arrives it will say MADE IN CHINA too.
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Post by: Jack Lewis on April 05, 2018, 12:43:27 pm
It can say made in USA, and be made in China and assembled in USA.
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Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on April 05, 2018, 01:10:40 pm
It can say made in USA, and be made in China and assembled in USA.

I always used Delta woodworking tools, American made. I bought a long bed jointer that sounded terrible with a cheap aluminum fence. I happened to look at the plate, which said, "Made in China under the direct supervision of Delta U.S.A". Junk.
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Post by: Protech Racing on April 05, 2018, 01:31:05 pm
For sure you cant tell where any label is made today. I have the best luck sourcing parts for various race and vintage cars from Ebay. The sellers have to keep me happy and I have had great satisfaction and very few faulty parts.
 
Just like my new radiator Hump hoses.  Bought from Pegasus  Racing for many years now and if they sell it , it has been of good value.
 I have no idea where they are made. 
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 07, 2018, 02:19:58 pm
My desiccant cartridge came today...............and guess what................it's MADE IN USA.

I ordered it from here;    DQ6036 by HALDEX - DESICCANT CARTRIDGE (https://www.finditparts.com/products/1884200/haldex-dq6036?srcid=)    at a total cost of $101.34.

It came packed in American Made cardboard, has Haldex installation instructions, is labeled HALDEX MADE IN USA and has a coalescing filter included.

The price difference between the two kits was only about $20.00.

Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: John Haygarth on April 07, 2018, 08:29:12 pm
I find the comments on items made in China quite funny actually as if one is so  strong about not having anything made in China(or Asian etc countries) then you had better throw out most of your electronic items. How many of us own TVs, cameras and cell phones- not to mention computers et al that are made overseas?? Some items even have made in China parts but assembled in US and vice versa. Tough these days to have an item with no off shore content.
JohnH
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: DavidS on April 08, 2018, 12:14:21 am
I have a feeling in a few years it will be different
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Post by: Jack Lewis on April 08, 2018, 03:04:13 am
Yes David, I believe so too.  I remember growing up when Japanese cars were considered junk, jokes such as the inside of the fenders have Budweiser labels showing.  Now look where Japanese cars rate.  (I've put over 600,000 miles on Toyotas and that is after working for Volkswagen and MBZ for 17 years).  I remember Consumer Reports making Korean cars a do not buy for any reason.  Now the Hyundai is one of the highest rated quality cars built in the world. 
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: John Haygarth on April 08, 2018, 10:36:28 am
I have a feeling in a few years it will be different
The present feeling on China in USA will change in 2 yrs (maybe before) as they are too big a country and producer of products at a  more affordable price than home made items. The billions of people that shop at Walmarts are the ones who are not buying "made in USA" will dictate this. This company must be the biggest seller of items made in Indonesia, India and China to name just a few. SO, anyone shopping there is promoting the cheaper prices of non US made items. Cost to the end users of that store are not concerned of where it is made, they just want a price they can afford.
JohnH
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: John44 on April 08, 2018, 11:00:38 am
Most of these "Walmart items" that we buy do not have a American counterpart so that is a no brainer.One example of a choice
of China or USA would be items made of steel,every now and then when I worked on the offshore platforms we would get a
shackle that was used on the crane made in China,we were told to throw it away because of so many failures.Many items that
we still have a choice between China and USA are not that much more money.Next time any of you fly Southwest check out
their magazine,the last few pages are full of ads promoting businesses to move to China.It would take 20 years to get these
companies back if they started now.
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: DavidS on April 08, 2018, 05:00:22 pm
Chinese steel is not regulated when mixing like USA steel is. Tube steel from there splits at the seam real easy and welding is difficult because the thickness is ordered @ .065 but comes in @ .057 to .063 but never .065..

This thickness change on 1 piece of tube so not well regulated
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: John Haygarth on April 08, 2018, 08:14:45 pm
I have trouble with the statement of no counterpart for Chinese items at Walmart??? Did not know Walmart sold shackles for the oil industry!

I rarely shop there but cannot think of anything that they sell that cannot be made in USA, but at a much higher price. I am not saying they make better things, just that millions of people shop there due to the price (cheaper) and this store is popular for this reason.Most    govt welfare cheques are cashed there according to a recent survey on TV.
JohnH
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Post by: Old phart phred on April 08, 2018, 09:41:28 pm
Chinese steel is not regulated when mixing like USA steel is. Tube steel from there splits at the seam real easy and welding is difficult because the thickness is ordered @ .065 but comes in @ .057 to .063 but never .065..

This thickness change on 1 piece of tube so not well regulated
They only good way we have found to deal with the substandard junk is send back to the vendor, have them send a truck over to pick it up. The vendor gets to handle it at least twice. Two or three times when this happens and the vendor gets a bad taste in his mouth and a warehouse full of junk he can't sell and finally shipped back to importer. Do not just pile it out back or throw it away reuturn it for credit, otherwise the supply & profit chain keeps moving. Just my thoughts.
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Post by: John44 on April 09, 2018, 05:49:11 am
John,reread the post,I did not say that Walmart sold shackles,was comparing 2 products.Yes the products can be made here but they are not.The less expensive plastic items that are made in China do not have an American conterpart.
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Post by: nitehawk on April 09, 2018, 06:05:44 am
Try the cable ties or electrical tape from Harbor Freight! Ties break if pulled tight. Tape doesn't even stick to itself. Both made in China. I refuse to buy either item from HF. (Plus a lot of other items)
When I do buy these items they say Made in USA or I don't buy. There are a lot of things we should not buy solely on price, but on performance.
Unfortunately, as has been stated above, most people buy solely on price. Then find out how bad the product really is, but too lazy to take it back & file a complaint. Wonder how many injuries or coach fires have occurred because the crappy Chinese electrical tape let go. Or their Chinese hose clamps, or their Chinese cable ties?
Makes one shudder to think that maybe the disk brake pads on our coaches were made in China!
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Post by: John44 on April 09, 2018, 10:35:12 am
Let's get back to the topic,enough China talk for me.
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: Dick Henry on April 09, 2018, 08:08:38 pm
I just purchased a reman air dryer DA33100X from NAPA. $232.42 plus tax. Got a discount through AITA (America,s Independent Truckers, Association, Inc.) I have a membership, $10.00 or free if you sign up at a perticipating NAPA store. Details at America's Independent Truckers' Association (http://www.AITAonline.com) or ask a NAPA employee. Worth looking into.
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on April 09, 2018, 08:45:29 pm
"MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS
AITA membership is only available to individuals whose primary occupation is in the trucking and transportation industry."

How can I join?
Title: Re: Haldex Dryer Cartridges $$
Post by: Dick Henry on April 10, 2018, 11:04:14 am
I went to a NAPPA store and signed up. Clerk recommended it & took my application. I am not involved in the trucking or transportation industry but I use a lot of the same parts. I had no problem & the clerk knew I wasn't a trucker. The fee was waived since I enrolled through an authorized AITA Vendor (NAPPA). I would check with a NAPPA store. Maybe they were trying to boost their membership but I had no problem signing up.

"Membership is available to individuals for the rate of $10.00 per person per year. (This fee is waived if you enroll through an authorized AITA Vendor Partner such as Truckers Edge, NAPA, or any other company with whom we offer discounts.)"