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Title: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: 98Fore on July 16, 2018, 08:11:51 am
Does anyone know how to remove the plastic cover of the entrance light that's above the door on the outside of the coach? I need to replace the bulb.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on July 16, 2018, 08:37:03 am
It helps if you identify the year and model of your coach when asking this kind of question.

From your "name" we might assume a '98 model?
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: joeszeidel on July 16, 2018, 09:31:20 am
If  the cover is yellow and plastic and kind of rectangular then carefully pry from the bottom with a small screwdriver and its should pop out. It should then snap back in.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: 98Fore on July 16, 2018, 10:28:33 am
It's a 98 U320. Yes it's a yellow plastic cover.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: Jeff & Sandy on July 16, 2018, 10:33:06 am
Using both hands squeeze the cover and it should pop out
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: Twig on July 16, 2018, 10:49:53 am
Or............in one of the black plastic end caps is a phillips screw.  Remove this screw, pop the end cap off and it slides out.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: 98Fore on July 16, 2018, 11:28:23 am
I wonder how brittle those covers become over the last 20 years. It doesn't kill me that the light doesn't work but it sure would if I break it trying to remove it.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: John Duld on July 16, 2018, 12:09:50 pm
Maybe it's the ballast not the bulb?
The whole thing is old so may be better to just replace it with an LED fixture.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: 98Fore on July 16, 2018, 12:36:20 pm
Good point. I was going to try bulb first. It worked when I purchased it a year ago.  Is it major to replace it with LED?
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: Jeff & Sandy on July 16, 2018, 01:19:30 pm
We couldn't go without a front light. After replacing the bulb twice over 3 years we decided to switch it to LED. it's brighter and draws much less power.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: Twig on July 16, 2018, 01:58:53 pm
It is usually just a bad connection. I'm assuming your light is florescent with 2 bulbs. Every one I've fixed have been the prongs the bulbs plug into. I replaced mine with LED/motion detector and glad I did.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on July 16, 2018, 02:18:45 pm
Take your time getting the cover off, it will come off.  Pry up from the bottom as I recall.  These fixtures need both tubes to be working for either to work.  We switched ours to a warm white (3000° K) LED strips.  Much easier on your eyes and your neighbors than the daylight or cool white (6000°K) at night.  This is a good place for soldered wire connections to the strips.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: joeszeidel on July 16, 2018, 02:28:49 pm
on my 95 the light comes on when you grab the handle. It shuts off after 30 seconds. You can also manually turn it on or off.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: 98Fore on July 16, 2018, 03:52:33 pm
Yes. Mine came on with the grab handle too and shut off after 30 seconds
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: 98Fore on July 16, 2018, 03:57:49 pm
If I switch to an LED strip, will I have access to the ballast once the plastic cover is removed to access the bulbs?
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: Bill & Kim on July 16, 2018, 05:08:02 pm
We switched ours to a warm white (3000° K) LED strips.  Much easier on your eyes and your neighbors than the daylight or cool white (6000°K) at night.  This is a good place for soldered wire connections to the strips.

That's good to know, sounds like a fairly easy fix.  I really don't like keeping the light on at night while outside because it is so bright...  almost like a spotlight on our neighbors...  wish the fixture focused the light down rather than lighting up the whole area.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on July 16, 2018, 08:25:55 pm
I think I took the fixure off to get rid of all the flourescent bits.  All you need for the LED strip is the + 12v and ground wire.  One strip the about the length of the fixture is probably enough.  Probably not too hard to add a dimmer.  There are internet connected Alexa enabled switch/dimmers that you can control from you phone or by talking to your Echo device.  Pretty neat.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: amos.harrison on July 17, 2018, 06:40:40 am
The yellow cover bleaches out and becomes brittle with time.  FT Parts has replacements.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: Ron & Connie Sedgley on July 17, 2018, 11:15:22 am
I got tired of replacing my florescent bulbs in my door porch light and found this LED replacement...
                  LED162AP - Thin Lite Inc. (http://thinlite.com/product/led162ap/)
It was an easy one for one replacement.  I've had no problems since (over two years now);  nice and bright.  There also is a white version if you want to replace the engine compartment light.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: 98Fore on July 17, 2018, 12:33:25 pm
Wow. That looks just like what's up there now. Thank you all. That may be the way to go.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: wolfe10 on July 17, 2018, 12:34:59 pm
Wow. That looks just like what's up there now. Thank you all. That may be the way to go.

To remove the lens on that style light, no tools.  Just pry a little on the yellow lens with your fingers and it will pop out of the groove.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: GleamB on July 17, 2018, 02:13:58 pm
Ron,
where did you purchase the LED light? I want one. Thanks
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: Twig on July 17, 2018, 02:15:23 pm
Be careful. I'm purdy sure there is a screw on the end cap possibly covered with a cap. I've been wrong before, though. If you're going to throw it away, however, it's moot. Pry away.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: GleamB on July 17, 2018, 02:32:25 pm
Just found a good one on ebay. Thanks, Twig. I wanted to buy one at the Big Tent at Q, but thought it was too expensive. I am changing out my fluorescents to LED, and this is on the list. I will be careful.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on July 17, 2018, 03:42:02 pm
Here is the inside scoop of the light over the door. Two short LED strips in mine after removing the flourescent guts.  I put a loop of wire between the two strips so if they were too bright (they are) I could just clip a wire to the second strip and have only one.  I did not use waterproof strips here, they are well enough protected and I have found the the waterproof strips can overheat if you leave them on for a long time.

The yellow lens comes off from the top.  Once you get it started from one end it will flex a bit and pop out.  The hook edge goes down, the flanged edge up.

Ron's LED replacement is $104 at Amazon!
Amazon.com: Thin-Lite OEM-LED162AP Weather Proof LED Ramp & Entry Light -... (https://www.amazon.com/Thin-Lite-OEM-LED162AP-Weather-Proof-Entry/dp/B00EHM2988)

$76 on eBay
Thin-Lite 162 A P 12 or 24 volt d.c. LED outdoor light made in U.S.A. rv... (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Thin-Lite-162-A-P-12-or-24-volt-d-c-LED-outdoor-light-made-in-U-S-A-rv-solar-/361514727395)

Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: 98Fore on July 17, 2018, 08:09:35 pm
Just fixed the light. Lens popped right out from the bottom. It was the bulbs but the grand plan is to convert to LED as a winter project. Thank you to all you kind folks for your help and advice.
Chris
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: Jack Lewis on July 18, 2018, 01:50:01 am
You can just change the bulb out to a led bulb.
Title: Re: Door entrance bulb out
Post by: Lance Camper on July 19, 2018, 10:12:23 am
Be careful. I'm purdy sure there is a screw on the end cap possibly covered with a cap. I've been wrong before, though. If you're going to throw it away, however, it's moot. Pry away.
^.^d
It's much easier to remove the screw and slide the lens cover off. Towards the rear, my patio awning interferes with it sliding it forward