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Title: Adios Microwave
Post by: jor on October 12, 2018, 07:40:50 pm
Threw the microwave today. Very liberating. We never use it. I'm still considering a shelf and maybe a metal sheet or whatever. Waiting for inspiration. Anyhow, after removing the microwave I couldn't help but think about the Foretravel Sucks thread that was active awhile back, I counted the screws (Robertson, of course) that attached the mounting backplate. FORTY THREE! That's the thing about these rigs. If eight screws will do the job, they put in 43! That baby wasn't comin' down.

Anyhow, for anyone removing a Sharp 1850 bear in mind that there might be more than the usual two screws up front.  This one had four, two of which were really hiding. It also might have the long diagonal screws instead of the handles in the back. Couple of photos for future reference.
jor

Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Johnstons on October 12, 2018, 07:50:16 pm
Took out the microwave?  That would do away with our version of "home cooked."
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on October 12, 2018, 07:59:28 pm
Our's is a different mounting, natch, but we want that useless, heavy beast out of here, too!  ^.^d
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: bigdog on October 12, 2018, 08:22:25 pm
We have used ours on every trip so far. Even baked some pork chops using the convection function on our last trip. It worked great.
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on October 12, 2018, 08:36:12 pm
We have used ours on every trip so far. Even baked some pork chops using the convection function on our last trip. It worked great.
Don't get me wrong, we love convection ovens and have one that sits on the table across from the micro. I have a short DW and, quite honestly,  the unit we have is just too complicated for a old farm boy to handle!
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: bigdog on October 12, 2018, 09:11:46 pm
Don't get me wrong, we love convection ovens and have one that sits on the table across from the micro. I have a short DW and, quite honestly,  the unit we have is just too complicated for a old farm boy to handle!

There are a barrel full of buttons on that thing aren't there.
I used to work on nuclear missiles, so I've been around a lot of buttons. But at times I stand there and have to look the panel over before proceeding.
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: craneman on October 12, 2018, 09:39:39 pm
Different strokes for different folks, Tomorrow will be the 15th. day up here in the Sierra's. The microwave is on right now and has been use at least once everyday and some days several time. DW brews coffee every other day and reheats on alternate days. Days I get back from fishing too late to BBQ Marie Callenders frozen dinner time. Heat bran muffins 30 sec. Chicken pot pie 6 min. etc.
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on October 12, 2018, 09:59:41 pm
Ours is a daily use appliance. The convection oven half gets most of the use. We bake breads, pies and deserts. Defrost frozen stuff, reheat left overs.  Hard to imagine being without one.  We are also frequent grill users and use our induction cooker outside for all the stuff we don't want to cook inside.
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: bigdog on October 13, 2018, 02:29:08 am
Don't get me wrong, we love convection ovens and have one that sits on the table across from the micro. I have a short DW and, quite honestly,  the unit we have is just too complicated for a old farm boy to handle!

You got me beat in the button race Mike.
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Journey, Roam, Explore on October 13, 2018, 04:53:50 am
I also use it. The convection feature means I can use it as a oven, and since we are a all electric coach, that is invaluable. One thing I don't like about the foretravel coaches is the small, not well equipped galley. Can't imagine not having some kind of oven.
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: ohsonew on October 13, 2018, 08:18:39 am
Wjouldn't know what to do without the microwave/convection. Never had the convection part till buying the coach. When we were fulltiming the convection part was a great learning curve. Like Bob, we are all electric. Love it that way. Don't have to deal with/ have the pleasure of propane. It seemed like a 2 edge sword.

Larry
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: OldManSax on October 13, 2018, 08:24:35 am
We replaced our failed microwave with a big convection toaster oven. DW doesn't care for what microwaves do to food. Besides now we can have rotisserie chicken!  LOL!

TOM
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on October 13, 2018, 08:42:58 am
From Bob ... "One thing I don't like about the foretravel coaches is the small, not well equipped galley. "

In my many years on the Forum this is a complaint I don't think I have read.  Small and compact, yes, OK with us. The Samsung refrigerator changed it much for the better for us. Not well equipped? Drawers, cupboards, pantries were all empty when it left the factory. Well equipped is up to the user.

I think it was Don of Don and Tys who put in a steam oven in place of his MW/C oven.  What ever works for you is OK.
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Moby on October 13, 2018, 09:51:53 am
Microwave
Convection oven
Four burners
Oven.

  What else does one need?
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: ohsonew on October 13, 2018, 12:31:57 pm
Crock pot? ^.^d
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Moby on October 13, 2018, 12:42:14 pm

  Not standard equipment,  but I'm with you.
Go with the Insta-pot!
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Bill & Kim on October 13, 2018, 12:43:24 pm
Don't get me wrong, we love convection ovens and have one that sits on the table across from the micro. I have a short DW and, quite honestly,  the unit we have is just too complicated for a old farm boy to handle!

Looks like one of the analog MCI boards 24 track...  pre-digital.  Prolly recorded on 2" tape...  ah, those were the days.
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Balcanthez on October 13, 2018, 01:39:08 pm
Mine has been little more than bread storage for the last 2 years (since I fried it :-* ). The oven and stove do everything I've needed (I don't like popcorn).
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: sedelange on October 13, 2018, 02:01:27 pm
Mine has the GE Advantium 120.  While not as powerful as the 240 version we have at home, it is indispensable.
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on October 13, 2018, 03:20:38 pm
Looks like one of the analog MCI boards 24 track...  pre-digital.  Prolly recorded on 2" tape...  ah, those were the days.
Whoa! Close, but no doobie. THAT is a British-made Neve console at Caribou Ranch Recording Studio in Colorado. Yes, analog, yes, Ampex MM-1000 24 trackers. Yup, those were the days; I'd never record in a digital studio; talk about 'old school'  ^.^d  Prolly the finest console ever made, the 'Olive' was installed at Caribou and was why I moved some of my clients there. Sadly, it did not withstand the 24/7 use that Caribou had.
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Bill & Kim on October 13, 2018, 04:05:37 pm
Whoa! Close, but no doobie. THAT is a British-made Neve console at Caribou Ranch Recording Studio in Colorado.
Impressive.  Neve IS the standard, top of the line.  A friend of mine, Rafael Villafane, has a Trident A range in his home studio in Mexico City.  About on par with the Neve - best EQ on drums I've heard!  He's a co-founder of Royer ribbon mics, Baby-O's in LA and Bulldog Cafe...  Interesting fellow and great musician.

OK, sorry for the hi-jack.  Back to your regularly scheduled program.
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on October 13, 2018, 06:37:59 pm
We use ours all the time. The only fault is our inverter that doesn't produce a true sine wave so the peaks are much lower making heating anything a longer process.

Pierce
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on October 13, 2018, 07:09:04 pm
OK, sorry for the hi-jack.  Back to your regularly scheduled program.
I don't think anyone has a problem with it, as long as we don't get carried away. BTW, Trident boards are right up there!  ^.^d
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: pugmom on October 14, 2018, 12:33:07 am
Our convection/ microwave seems to heat up the wood pretty warm. Doesn't it have to be vented to the outside? The vent fan is useless as it blows what ever it sucks up right into my face and back out into the coach. Maybe I am doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: ohsonew on October 14, 2018, 07:36:47 am
Our convection oven does the same venting into the coach. The wall next to the oven gets warm. We used it daily for 15 months with no ill effects that I can see. Helps heat in the winter, but a load on the AC in the summer.

Lary
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on October 14, 2018, 03:00:39 pm
Our convection oven sits on the oval table across from the sink. Yes, it has heat, but it's comfy in the morning and not close enough to the window (that we open in the afternoon) to bother the woodwork.
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: gracerace on October 14, 2018, 03:14:19 pm
FYI, anyone removing their microwave, be sure to remove the stove cover, and put a heavy blanket down to protect the stove.
Those things are heavy. Our coach has a crack in the cover, where the PO broke it.
Chris
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: gracerace on October 14, 2018, 03:17:26 pm
I also use it. The convection feature means I can use it as a oven, and since we are a all electric coach, that is invaluable. One thing I don't like about the foretravel coaches is the small, not well equipped galley. Can't imagine not having some kind of oven.

Bob, I asked that question  too back in the day .
They built the galleys small, because that is what people then ask for. Most of the owners didn't cook, they ate out because they could afford to.
Chris
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: kb0zke on October 14, 2018, 04:16:42 pm
We've used the propane oven twice and were not happy with the results either time, so it is now a storage place. We have a toaster oven on the counter that gets daily use, and the microwave (no convection) also is used daily. The cooktop is used maybe once every couple of months. The electric fry pan gets used almost daily. Of course, we got it a couple of months after we bought a new regular fry pan, which is why the cooktop doesn't get much attention.

The crockpot is also frequently used, and right now the cookpot (electric pot) is cooking some corned beef for Reubens.
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Journey, Roam, Explore on October 14, 2018, 09:33:13 pm
Bob, I asked that question  too back in the day .
They built the galleys small, because that is what people then ask for. Most of the owners didn't cook, they ate out because they could afford to.
Chris

Yes I understand that. But for me, and many others that like to cook, the galley is pretty small. I like to bake bread. Use ovens. etc. If your not like that, then this galley is fine, but for someone like me that likes cooking, its to small. Drawers are fine, but counter space is limited. Just will have to figure it out as I go.  Don't want to eat out all the time, or rarely.  If it works for you, fine. There is a lot of storage though and that's great.
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: gracerace on October 14, 2018, 10:31:57 pm
Yes I understand that. But for me, and many others that like to cook, the galley is pretty small. I like to bake bread. Use ovens. etc. If your not like that, then this galley is fine, but for someone like me that likes cooking, its to small. Drawers are fine, but counter space is limited. Just will have to figure it out as I go.  Don't want to eat out all the time, or rarely.  If it works for you, fine. There is a lot of storage though and that's great.

Bob
We kind of do both.I agree they are small, but as other said, they have lots of storage. Our old Dutchman class C had like zero counter,and really no storage.
Most the people that buy used FT's, actually use them to camp. We dry camp lots, one of the main reason we got a FT, large holding tanks etc.
Chris
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: Journey, Roam, Explore on October 15, 2018, 01:57:57 am
Chris I was responding to earlier posts. I agree.  I compare them to a sailboats galley. On a typical sailboat galley, you will have a 3-4 burner propane stove with oven, a microwave with or without a convection oven, good storage, and a double sink, plus a grill on the back rail. The counter space will be limited though. On my coach, I have a single induction cook top and a microwave convection oven. They came with a 2 burner propane cook top. For someone that cooks occasionally, that is fine. I would need more. Going to have to get a instapot at least.
Title: Re: Adios Microwave
Post by: jor on October 21, 2018, 07:20:23 pm
The only good microwave is a dead microwave!  :))

Ended up putting in a little shelf in place of the microwave. I was thinking about taking the whole piece out but figured the ceiling would bear some serious marks from the microwave mounting. I just screwed everything so the next guy can easily put one back in, no sweat.
jor