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Title: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: Caflashbob on February 07, 2019, 07:46:42 pm
My guru buddy asked for our help for a Foretravel customer with a 96 U295 with propane furnaces.

Tank may be leaking and is full of oil that he thinks came from it's use in Mexico for four years.

Almost full width large tank.  Owner would be happy with a smaller tank if that's all that's available.

Any info/ help for the 295 owner?

Thanks bob
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: Tim Fiedler on February 07, 2019, 07:49:16 pm
MOT took mine out. Was fine when removed. Check with Eric Barnes at MOT for price and availability
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: Barry & Cindy on February 07, 2019, 10:01:26 pm
Any full service Propane dealer can empty, remove & install smaller tank. The only thing to keep in mind is if coach is every in cold weather requiring propane furnace almost continuous running, even the big tank will be appreciated and empty quickly. Furnace can 'eat' propane.
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: Old phart phred on February 07, 2019, 10:27:21 pm
Water heater can also eat a large amount of propane depending on your habits, but a hot rod while plugged in and motor aide heater, can help.
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: Tim Fiedler on February 07, 2019, 10:39:47 pm
one advantage to an aquahot, easy on propane!!!
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: John Haygarth on February 07, 2019, 10:48:06 pm
Bob. Mexican propane is not available as it is butane, and I have been using it for 8 yrs in my 295 and no issues. I fill up every year in Mexico as I do with diesel as I want the sulphur.
JohnH
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: Caflashbob on February 07, 2019, 10:48:35 pm
Tim was it a big tank? Being as you have a u320 I assume it was the oem 19?
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: DavidS on February 07, 2019, 11:14:39 pm
one advantage to an aquahot, easy on propane!!!

I filled up 2 yrs ago and still have  about a half tank..
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on February 07, 2019, 11:26:14 pm
The U320 LP tanks are 17 gallon tanks.  The U295 tanks are much bigger, maybe 42 gal.  I replaced my 17 gal tank with a 2.25 gallon (11 lb) tank. It runs my cook top for about 4 months.  I also have a spare.  I can run my grill and my fire pit from them as well.  I just take the tank to get refilled, no need to drive the coach anywhere.

An LP tank that has ever had any LP in it can be removed and emptied but to transport it using a public transport company requires a hazardous material carrier and all of the appropriate paperwork.
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: Old phart phred on February 08, 2019, 12:56:45 am
An LP tank that has ever had any LP in it can be removed and emptied but to transport it using a public transport company requires a hazardous material carrier and all of the appropriate paperwork.
Sad the AHJ's  have never heard of nitrogen being inert. Kills the fire triangle. How is it that "zeros" can multiply?


Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: John44 on February 08, 2019, 04:35:25 am
How does he know it's full of oil?
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: Caflashbob on February 08, 2019, 08:03:08 am
It squirted all over him
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: John Haygarth on February 08, 2019, 01:17:59 pm
C Bob, find it hard to understand how it was FULL of oil,  or do you mean the piping drop was full of oil (which is its job to collect it there).
Your  Guru was silly to open the tank line up as that could cause trouble. There is a proper way to clean out a tank and is not something a non licenced person  should do, in my opinion. He must have done that to be able to asertain it was FULL of oil, rather than a normal amount that collects over the years.
JohnH
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: John44 on February 08, 2019, 02:29:15 pm
Sounds like at this point he is cheaper off just getting another tank.
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: Caflashbob on February 08, 2019, 02:33:27 pm
Yes he is looking for a replacement as the coach came in with zero pressure.  He is assuming a leak
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: Caflashbob on February 08, 2019, 02:41:21 pm
My buddy was impressed by Foretravel as they called him back and gave him complete info on where to buy a replacement if needed.  They are all electric and stock no propane tanks anymore.  He may dismount and drain it but the fluid smells strongly
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on February 08, 2019, 06:48:30 pm
5 years ago, we had a very interesting (at least to me) discussion about "propane oil" and the reports of finding it in motorhome tanks and lines.  In case any newbies are curious or interested in this arcane subject, here is the link:

No propane oil (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=23200)
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: Caflashbob on February 08, 2019, 07:40:23 pm
Remember that this coach spent four  years in Mexico being refilled with butane from Mexican trucks. 
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: Old phart phred on February 08, 2019, 10:26:28 pm
Thanks Chuck for reviving that old thread. I wonder if at different pressures or temperatures if that oil floats on top of the lpg and oil covered localized boiling nearest the lpg outlet launches oil particles that get sucked into the tank vapor connection. Generator, water heater, and a big barbecue could cause some pretty good localized boiling nearest the tank outlet. Steam boilers launch water droplets at this same outlet location, travel up the pipe and are then propelled downwards into a large diameter header pipe where they separate and collect on the bottom of the large header and drained off.
Title: Re: 96 u295 propane tank
Post by: Caflashbob on February 08, 2019, 10:54:43 pm
Here is the photos of the same coach from late 2016 I posted