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Title: Air Pump and lights
Post by: juicesqueezer on April 12, 2019, 09:24:11 pm
Well, we just left Fog Doc and we are spending the night at Chris and Elka Lang.  Can't say enough about these two people and so knowledgeable.  Chris can do it all.  Now to the issue;  we noticed last night that the air pump came on early this morning.  Now, while sitting at Chris and Elka's, it is coming on about every 10 to 15 minutes.  Air gauges are dropping down to around 75-80 and then airing back up.  That seems like an excessive leak and we have new air bags on this coach that were installed last year.  Guess we will be crawling under the rig in the morning with soap/water spray bottle in hand.
Any other ideas on where to start would be most appreciated.  Hopefully, getting a good night sleep tonight.
Oh, question on the headlights with the new mod:  we can't get the inside two lights to work.  Any other switch we don't know about.  When we hit high beams, really can't see any difference.  Is that were the high beams are suppose to be?  Ah, the issues with a new to us!
Thanks in advance for any help on this!
Title: Re: Air Pump and lights
Post by: Jeff & Sandy on April 12, 2019, 09:25:50 pm
Congrats on the new coach! Be sure to block it up safely before you go under It.
Title: Re: Air Pump and lights
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on April 12, 2019, 09:42:02 pm
You are leaking a lot of air somewhere.  Don't automatically assume it is the air bags if they have been working properly for a year.  The slide seal is another possible source of leaks.  I'll let someone with more knowledge comment since we don't have a slide.  Here is a recent thread where slide bladder leaks are discussed:

How to inspect the seal on the slider (http://www.foreforums.com/index.php?topic=36258)

Do you have the HWH Auto Level turned on?  If the coach is parked in a fairly level spot, you could turn off the Auto Level and see if the air pump continues to cycle on and off.  If it does, then the leak is most likely not in the leveling system.

If you have the Owner's Manual for your HWH leveling system, it should contain a trouble shooting section.

Can't help with the headlight question.  Call whoever installed the updated lights and ask them?
Title: Re: Air Pump and lights
Post by: wolfe10 on April 12, 2019, 10:15:03 pm
With that size leak, your EARS should lead you to the culprit.

Does the same leak occur when you have run the engine and built pressure to CUT-OUT PSI?  If so, easier to hear a leak at 120 PSI than 70 PSI.
Title: Re: Air Pump and lights
Post by: juicesqueezer on April 13, 2019, 09:29:15 am
With that size leak, your EARS should lead you to the culprit.

Does the same leak occur when you have run the engine and built pressure to CUT-OUT PSI?  If so, easier to hear a leak at 120 PSI than 70 PSI.

Brett; Did not check it with engine running, but on the way over to Chris, gauges were showing fine.  it is raining here right now, so unable to get out under the coach.  I actually push the off button on the HWH (leveling system) on dash and leak is still happening.  The slide seal was replaced last year.  Was thinking maybe an airline broke or came loose?
Looks like it will rain all day here, so stuck with listening to the air pump run and then shut off for 15-20 minutes and start again!  While at MOT, we stayed in the coach for 3 days and no issues with air.  When we traveled to Fog Doc, early the next morning, we heard the air system kick on, but only once.  When we arrived at Chris Lang's home, it started on a regular bases.  Hoping between Chris and I, we can solve this issue.  Thanks to all for responding and will be looking through the HWH pages today.
Title: Re: Air Pump and lights
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on April 13, 2019, 09:52:56 am
...stuck with listening to the air pump run and then shut off for 15-20 minutes and start again!
If the circuit breaker for the pump is "indoors" on your coach, you could disconnect one wire and "kill" the pump until the rain stops.

On our old coach, the HWH compressor CB is on a panel in the main storage bay, so I would need to go outside and get wet.  :'(
Title: Re: Air Pump and lights
Post by: AC7880 on April 13, 2019, 02:55:25 pm
Did you by chance leave the switch for the slide in the position that deflates it for extend/retract?
Title: Re: Air Pump and lights
Post by: juicesqueezer on April 13, 2019, 05:48:46 pm
Did you by chance leave the switch for the slide in the position that deflates it for extend/retract?

No Dan, checked that and with the rain we are experincing now, it most likely would be pouring in.  However, one side note, the air leak has slowed way down.  Not sure why, but wife is glad to not hear the pump.  Maybe a valve body got stuck and is finally starting to close?  Just guessing at this point in time.
Title: Re: Air Pump and lights
Post by: kb0zke on April 13, 2019, 07:01:25 pm
Recently I noticed that the white air pressure needle was moving faster than the red one. As I was setting up, Jo Ann asked what the hissing from the front of the coach was. Hissing??? Went up front, and sure enough, air was rushing out of something. When I crawled underneath I found it. One of the tank drains was leaking air - the white one. A little wiggling and the hissing stopped.
Title: Re: Air Pump and lights
Post by: juicesqueezer on April 13, 2019, 10:51:57 pm
Recently I noticed that the white air pressure needle was moving faster than the red one. As I was setting up, Jo Ann asked what the hissing from the front of the coach was. Hissing??? Went up front, and sure enough, air was rushing out of something. When I crawled underneath I found it. One of the tank drains was leaking air - the white one. A little wiggling and the hissing stopped.

I am hoping it will be that easy, but man, have we had some rain!  Hopefully will end late tonight and we can head back toward Nashville tomorrow!