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Title: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: juicesqueezer on May 25, 2019, 01:24:29 pm
Thought I would ask the forum on this;  wife says wood is walnut, I say it is cherry.  Tried to find what wood was used in the owners book, but nothing in there on what was installed.  Your help and expertise is sought after!

Thanks in advance! 

Title: Re: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: DavidS on May 25, 2019, 01:25:35 pm
I think roger would be more keen on this topic.. he will chime in I am sure

Post a pic
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Post by: SteveB on May 25, 2019, 01:35:44 pm
Sure looks like cherry to me.
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Post by: wolfe10 on May 25, 2019, 01:40:52 pm
Do you have a picture of a  larger area?
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Post by: valento on May 25, 2019, 01:41:39 pm
X2 on cherry, but I am not a wood connoisseur...
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Post by: kb0zke on May 25, 2019, 01:46:21 pm
I would guess that cherry wood could be finished with a walnut stain, but I'm not sure that walnut wood would take a cherry stain as well.

If you have your build number the factory ought to be able to tell you.
Title: Re: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: Pamela & Mike on May 25, 2019, 02:22:11 pm
Sometime they started adding the wood make up in the coach Model Id info like SteveB's coach info. His coach 4220 number, the last number is the wood call out. If your coach is new enough (being a 2000 it should be) to have these numbers the last digit will be either 0-3 IIRC, Each number being different wood. If you don't have those numbers then I will vote for whatever Rodger thinks.

Mike
Title: Re: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on May 25, 2019, 03:04:57 pm
I have seen 2000 U320s in walnut or cherry.  They were both U320 options in 2000. Cherry will be more red than the browner walnut. Some species of walnut can have some red tint as well. The picture looks like cherry to me.  If you look at the wood where it has been covered cherry will usually look lighter, walnut will usually be darker. Different species react differently to sunlight oxidation.  But then there at are lots of different types of walnut from different areas of the country.  Same with cherry.  It takes a bit of effort to try to match aged wood with new wood.
Title: Re: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: juicesqueezer on May 25, 2019, 03:20:58 pm
Thanks everyone.  I will call factory on Tuesday to verify.
It sure looks like cherry to me as well.
The reason I asked is I want to add a TV cabinet in the slide and theater seats behind the passenger seat.
Title: Re: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: D.J. Osborn on May 25, 2019, 03:36:33 pm
Without some reference color in the picture it's quite difficult to tell, but my guess would be cherry.
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Post by: Rich Bowman on May 25, 2019, 10:38:37 pm
The door grab handle looks like walnut to me. ;-).

Rich
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Post by: Caflashbob on May 25, 2019, 11:58:20 pm
Looks to be cherry.  Walnut is drawer
Title: Re: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: juicesqueezer on May 26, 2019, 08:35:32 am
The door grab handle looks like walnut to me. ;-).
 
Rich


Rich, it seems to depend on how the light hits the furniture for sure!  Will post on findings when I get the results from the mother ship!
Title: Re: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart on May 26, 2019, 10:56:50 am
I added a couple pieces of wood to the interior of our U300. Our wood is walnut but others could be cherry. Walnut has a distinctive smell when run through a table saw. Guess this is not an option here. :D

Pierce
Title: Re: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: Jack Lewis on May 26, 2019, 12:28:09 pm
I attached a picture of my "lightened" walnut.  22 years is time for alot for lightning of walnut.  Back by the bathroom my walnut is darker.

Never, and I've walked in many, have I mistook walnut for cherry or cherry for walnut.  Cherry, as another said , has a definite red hue to it.  It is beautiful, as is the walnut. The lightened walnut, although lighter, maintains the brown hue.

It will be interesting when you contact FT with your build number and we find out which wood is in your rv.  Yours looks like cherry to me also, however, pictures are not that accurate on hue, and so it appears more to me like walnut.
Title: Re: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: Bob & Sue on May 26, 2019, 01:16:00 pm
To me, looks light enough to be oak.
Title: Re: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on May 26, 2019, 01:54:42 pm
Here are pictures of sanded, unfinished lumber.
Red Oak (88)
Sweet Cherry (89)
Black Cherry (90)
Black Walnut (91)

And sealed.
Black Cherry, sealed (090..)
Black Walnut, sealed (26D...)
Red Oak Sealed (261...)

Wood Finder | The Wood Database (https://www.wood-database.com/wood-finder/)
Title: Re: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: John/Pat on May 27, 2019, 10:30:23 am
Did FT ever use oak in  the 1998 U270?
Title: Re: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: Tim Fiedler on May 27, 2019, 10:35:05 am
I had a 1999 with oak. I thought that was the standard wood in a U-270

Beam alarm website - wood not listed in brochure for the 1998 U-270

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Post by: wolfe10 on May 27, 2019, 10:36:03 am
Did FT ever use oak in  the 1998 U270?

YES
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Post by: D.J. Osborn on May 27, 2019, 10:36:52 am
My understanding is that oak was the standard wood used in U270 models of that era.
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Post by: wolfe10 on May 27, 2019, 10:37:39 am
My understand is that oak was the standard wood used in U270 models of that era.

CORRECT
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Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on May 27, 2019, 11:44:06 am
In the brochures the wood type is usually listed under "Hand-crafted _______ Cabinetry"
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Post by: Tim Fiedler on May 27, 2019, 02:59:35 pm
Good catch Roger!
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Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on May 27, 2019, 08:45:49 pm
In the brochures the wood type is usually listed under "Hand-crafted _______ Cabinetry"
Being a finish carpenter in the past, I would also say, "Some of the tightest miter joints I've ever seen!  ^.^d
Title: Re: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on May 27, 2019, 11:26:16 pm
Maybe Mike's era coach has more miter joints,  the only ones in our coach are the corners of the trim around the mirrors on the closet doors and they are well done. I would have liked to see the production shop when my coach was built.  All of the woodwork that had to be done when they were building about one coach per day is an impressive quantity. 

All of the cabinet doors and drawer fronts on our coach are either Cope and Stick joints or solid wood. 
Title: Re: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on May 28, 2019, 10:09:25 am
Maybe Mike's era coach has more miter joints,
There are a lot of them in the '93, plus cope joints. All of them, to this day, have shown NO sign of pulling apart or shifting. Like you, Roger, I would have loved to have seen what kind of shop they had and meet the craftsmen who created such a example of woodworker's art!  ^.^d
Title: Re: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: juicesqueezer on May 28, 2019, 03:06:45 pm
We did the factory tour back in late 2000 and impressed does not do the craftsmanship justice!  Went from the frame to the finished product and everything in-between.  Just another reason why we purchased our '98 at the time!

Footnote;  still waiting on call back from factory on wood selection in our coach.  James is out of town until Wednesday, so had a call into David Flanagan.

One thing I did find on the color brochure in  our book is this:  04-Glaxay  Not sure if the 04 is the wood.  Maybe someone else on here would know.  Of course it also had the interior listed as blue and this coach is not blue inside on trim, etc.
Title: Re: Cabinet Finish?
Post by: juicesqueezer on May 28, 2019, 03:53:18 pm
Well, got the call from the mothership and David Flanagan pulled the build number on this coach and it is confirmed, WALNUT!  Like he said as well as others on here, walnut lightens with age and the sun UV's.  Thank you to all who chimed in with their thoughts and advice!