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Title: Steering Play
Post by: dbennett9 on July 08, 2019, 01:33:23 pm
Hi,

I am considering purchasing a 36' 2004 Foretravel U270. One thing that stood out on the test drive is that the coach has noticeably more play in the steering than other coaches I have driven. It is not so bad that it makes it extremely difficult to drive, but it is enough to be immediately noticeable. Can anyone tell me if this is normal for a coach of this year and model, or does it indicate a possible problem now or down the road? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Dave Bennett
Title: Re: Steering Play
Post by: wolfe10 on July 08, 2019, 02:09:21 pm
Dave,

No, it is not normal.

But, two minute looking under the coach (no need to crawl under) will tell you if there is a loose connection/tie rod end.

If not, and excessive play, the Sheppard M100 box does not have any external adjustments for play.  But, Redhead does "blueprin" the boxes to tighten them up.

The other potential area to check is the steering column U joints-- very rare for them to fail unless they have never been greased.

Lastly, and least likely, the bushings in the links for the front suspension. 
Title: Re: Steering Play
Post by: Caflashbob on July 08, 2019, 02:54:43 pm
A lot of coaches had the wheel bearings set too loose for good steering.

Tires that do not have directional sipes built into them would add to loose anything wandering.

As Brett posted look for worn visible parts.

Whatever is the issue it is fixable
Title: Re: Steering Play
Post by: dbennett9 on July 08, 2019, 03:56:02 pm
Brett,

Thanks for the input. That gives me some idea of what to look for.

Dave Bennett
Title: Re: Steering Play
Post by: dbennett9 on July 08, 2019, 03:58:35 pm
Bob & Susan,

I appreciate the help. I am new to this, so I need all I can get.

Dave Bennett
Title: Re: Steering Play
Post by: wolfe10 on July 08, 2019, 05:07:34 pm
Dave,

As with any large purchase (house, boat or RV), if you are not very familiar with what to check, find an expert to inspect it for you.

SO, if you tell us where you/the coach is, someone may be able to recommend an inspector.

Note: While I do mechanical inspections on Foretravels,  I don't have hands-on experience with the newer/slide coaches, so I do not feel qualified to inspect them (and don't).
Title: Re: Steering Play
Post by: Travelin' Man (RIP) on July 08, 2019, 05:48:17 pm
It is not so bad that it makes it extremely difficult to drive, but it is enough to be immediately noticeable.

After driving for eight hours it will be a lot more noticeable. 
Title: Re: Steering Play
Post by: dbennett9 on July 08, 2019, 08:05:18 pm
Brett,

The coach is at Motorhomes of Texas.

Thanks,

Dave Bennett
Title: Re: Steering Play
Post by: bbeane on July 08, 2019, 09:46:41 pm
Keith at MOT service department might be your inspection guy.
Title: Re: Steering Play
Post by: wolfe10 on July 09, 2019, 09:00:40 am
Keith at MOT service department might be your inspection guy.

Agree, Keith Risch is a good choice-- very knowledgeable on the newer coaches.
Title: Re: Steering Play
Post by: Old Toolmaker on July 09, 2019, 09:12:47 am
After driving for eight hours it will be a lot more noticeable. 
I feel that I must respectfully disagee.  After driving enough miles, unless you obsess over the "free range" it will become normal to you.

That being said an appointment at a shop that does front end alignments on trucks will give dbennett9 all the answers that he needs.
Title: Re: Steering Play
Post by: DavidS on July 09, 2019, 09:31:47 am
  After driving enough miles, unless you obsess over the "free range" it will become normal to you.

Maybe after you do your work out at the Gym for a few years and build your shoulder muscles... when mine was Off I was sore within a half hour... then it got worse... Neck and shoulder were screaming at me to get their and park or let my wife drive.. needless to say I pressed on!!  ^.^d

This is from experience! ^^^
Title: Re: Steering Play
Post by: Tim Fiedler on July 09, 2019, 09:58:49 am
I had a 1.5 inch dead spot. Was really tiresome to drive. Now down to less than 1/2". Way better. All it took was some front end parts, wheel bearing adjustment, Redhead steering box and alignment.  And a couple of coach bucks.
Way easier to drive for 10-12 hours per day now, and safer. My coach has about 140K miles on it BTW
Title: Re: Steering Play
Post by: Caflashbob on July 09, 2019, 01:44:00 pm
Tim my experience matches yours to most extents.  If you preload the wheel bearings versus the legal DOT standard of .001-.005 end play and use directional siped tires there is no dead spot.

We are not commercial so the trucker DOT standards may not apply.

Drove ours both ways.  Everything done.  Only difference is the preload.

Less than 1/2 inch at .001-.003 in ours versus none.

Coaches must have been preloaded as there was no dead spot new
Title: Re: Steering Play
Post by: Old Toolmaker on July 09, 2019, 01:58:13 pm
Maybe after you do your work out at the Gym for a few years and build your shoulder muscles... when mine was Off I was sore within a half hour... then it got worse... Neck and shoulder were screaming at me to get their and park or let my wife drive.. needless to say I pressed on!!  ^.^d

This is from experience! ^^^

I'm 62, and while this is the nicest RV I've ever had, my first was a new 20' 1973 Winnebago Brave.  Along the way I've driven a few miles in antique Chryslers most in my 1950 Windsor, but quite a few in a friends 1948 Town and Country.
What I learned driving those non power steering cars long distance, was to relax.  Tension wears you out and strains the muscles.  All of our fuel oil delivery trucks wandered, and I don't remember all but the last one having power steering.

I just finished my first trip on our new home, about 500 miles all told, and what I noticed was a lot of drag in the king pins.  I should have greased them before I left.  What I was accused of was taking corners too fast.  This truss frame is everything I hoped it would be.
Title: Re: Steering Play
Post by: gracerace on July 15, 2019, 06:18:10 pm
Have had RV's all my life. Always tell people, put one arm on the arm rest, and let the steering wheel float with the other. Don't try to drive it.
Between the trucker ruts, and the wind that makes them a giant sail, they are going to move around.
I realize if you do have an issue, such as sloppy steering, it needs to be fixed.
Gene's alignment made a world of difference with a simple alignment.
Chris
Title: Re: Steering Play
Post by: Texhub on July 31, 2019, 12:50:46 pm
Look for my topic on 1999 U270 need help. You can see my steering issue and how Keith fixed it at Mot.  New U270 owner.