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Title: Hot floor in bedroom
Post by: sedelange on July 19, 2019, 05:03:46 pm
In Arizona in July it's hot.  Stopped for an afternoon nap and took a picture with IR camera.  Floor on each side of engine compartment was around 115F.  Note in picture the purple area, that is the engine cover.  It's well insulated.  With the floor that hot the bedroom would not cool down well.  Cutting 1" foil backed foam to cover floor until we get home.  Hottest side was the one near the radiator.  I am assuming I need to apply insulation under floor, but it's too warm to look at here.
Title: Re: Hot floor in bedroom
Post by: bigdog on July 19, 2019, 05:26:25 pm
Several things.
1, Arizona in a coach in the summer?

2, And this may sound odd. (And I am :)) ) But how about opening up the engine bay to allow the trapped heat a way out. One could also set up a small 120V fan by the open engine bay to move even more air while you take a nap.

3, I'm not sure if you could stuff enough insulation under the floor to keep engine heat away when there is already triple digit ambient temps outside. It will come in through the windows and the side walls. Our coaches are pretty well insulated (for a coach) but they aren't R22 insulated.
Title: Re: Hot floor in bedroom
Post by: sedelange on July 19, 2019, 05:30:44 pm
I was amazed the engine cover was cool but the floor on each side is hot.  I am assuming there is no insulation under floor. I am going to check when I get to Ruidoso and it's cooler outside. Amazingly, one heat source was the floor heater ducts. And trust me the heat is not on.  I am considering adding 2 electric radiator fans to engine hatch to cool engine area down quicker.
Title: Re: Hot floor in bedroom
Post by: bigdog on July 19, 2019, 05:52:31 pm
Amazingly, one heat source was the floor heater ducts. And trust me the heat is not on.  I am considering adding 2 electric radiator fans to engine hatch to cool engine area down quicker.
I posted just the other day about the aqua hot in our 320 sending heat through the floor area between our LR & kitchen. We need it on to supply hot water. But the thermostats were OFF. Yet the coach was heating up enough in 75 degree weather parked in a shady spot to need to turn on the vent fans or AC to cool it down enough to sleep. Our bottom kitchen drawer is hot enough that I felt unsafe having a small pressurized can of deoxit in there.

I always thought that to get heat to those heat exchangers, The stir pumps need to be on via the thermostat.
Title: Re: Hot floor in bedroom
Post by: Rudy on July 19, 2019, 08:05:36 pm
In the large Aqua Hot heaters (not Hydro Hot or 400 series heaters), anytime the burner is running, so is pump 2.  The pump 2 stirs the coolant tank by sending coolant out to bathroom then to the basement fan coils and back to the tank.  So, the bathroom fan coil will get warm and put some heat into that area.
Title: Re: Hot floor in bedroom
Post by: Caflashbob on July 19, 2019, 08:18:52 pm
Good one Rudy,  thanks
Title: Re: Hot floor in bedroom
Post by: bigdog on July 19, 2019, 08:31:13 pm
I know on ours. The heat is all in the LR & Kitchen. The bathroom, BR has been fine. (At least in our coach)
Title: Re: Hot floor in bedroom
Post by: Caflashbob on July 19, 2019, 09:17:04 pm
Does  pump 2 run on  ac?
Title: Re: Hot floor in bedroom
Post by: Rudy on July 19, 2019, 09:30:42 pm
Bob,  No Sir.  Electric element is in bottom of tank where burner is in the middle with both control thermostats at the top of tank.
Title: Re: Hot floor in bedroom
Post by: Caflashbob on July 19, 2019, 10:17:33 pm
Thanks Rudy.  So incidental  heating will occur when the flame is actually on.  No blowers unless the thermostat are set to trigger them. 
Title: Re: Hot floor in bedroom
Post by: Rudy on July 20, 2019, 07:25:50 am
Bob,  You are correct.
Title: Re: Hot floor in bedroom
Post by: Jerry Whiteaker on July 20, 2019, 12:23:46 pm
Hot floor in AZ in the summer time after driving the coach.  I would say this is normal.  My bedroom tends to warm up under those conditions.  Never really checked the floor, but the mattress is warmer than usual.  It cools down after about an hour or so. 
Title: Re: Hot floor in bedroom
Post by: sedelange on July 20, 2019, 06:16:20 pm
Fixed.  Covered the rear floor on each side of engine cover with foil backed foam.  Temp of floor now 68 after driving for a few hours.
Title: Re: Hot floor in bedroom
Post by: saddlesore on July 21, 2019, 01:08:26 am
On our coach bedroom floor on drivers side and bedroom in general got so hot when driving then parking for the night that could not sleep even when leaving the engine hatch open.
Replaced the 35 gal drum of a muffler with a resonator.. really cooled things down (and now can access the chassis batteries without having to work around said muffler.)
Title: Re: Hot floor in bedroom
Post by: sedelange on July 21, 2019, 01:59:06 am
Just arrived at Albuquerque and stopped for night.  Bedroom is completely cool. Able to crawl in bed immediately.  At least half my heat is from the radiator side.

When I get home I am going to put R-18 heat shield under carpet.  This hard foam was just a test.