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Title: Any tricks for removing the mortar from the floor?
Post by: Ed W on August 03, 2019, 05:27:15 pm
The ceramic tiles came off fairly quickly. The mortar removal has been tedious. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: what’s the easiest way to remove the grout from the floor?
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on August 03, 2019, 06:04:24 pm
Have you tried heating it with a heat gun to see if it softens up any?  Then scrape it off with wide putty knife.
Title: Re: what’s the easiest way to remove the grout from the floor?
Post by: Twig on August 03, 2019, 06:10:40 pm
That is Thinset. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqoETYtMHQc
Title: Re: what’s the easiest way to remove the grout from the floor?
Post by: Chuck & Jeannie on August 03, 2019, 06:16:38 pm
How about this one - sorta like Twigs suggestion but wider blade:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL66I4eiFck
Title: Re: Any tricks for removing the mortar from the floor?
Post by: Ed W on August 03, 2019, 06:31:37 pm
We were doing the hammer/chisel method today and what I call "whack a mole" trying to break it up some. Very tedious! Ed did have a power tool that he tried, but it didn't work as slick as in the video. Maybe we'll rent a different power chisel. Thanks for the suggestions. Deb
Title: Re: Any tricks for removing the mortar from the floor?
Post by: juicesqueezer on August 03, 2019, 06:49:28 pm
You might try a brick chisel as it is about 3.5 inch or so wide, wear gloves and use a regular hammer to tap it.  Also a putty knife works.  You just don't want to dig into the plywood floor if possible.  I have used a diamond blade on my angle grinder and it works, just messy!  Lot's of dust, but always have a construction vacuum working at the same time.  Last job was removing over 1500 sq feet of thinset off a plywood floor.  Just another reason why I install concrete board down before laying any tile.
Title: Re: Any tricks for removing the mortar from the floor?
Post by: MAZ on August 03, 2019, 06:55:50 pm
What about one of these tools.  Oscillating Tool, 1.5A Oscillating Multi Tool Oscillating Angle:3° GALAX PRO... (https://www.amazon.com/Oscillating-Tool-1-5A-Multi-Angle/dp/B07GRNGH5Y/ref=sr_1_8?hvadid=77927949706740&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=vibration+tool&qid=1564872859&s=gateway&sr=8-8)
Mine worked great chipping off some concrete on our driveway.

Mark
Title: Re: Any tricks for removing the mortar from the floor?
Post by: Michelle on August 03, 2019, 06:59:43 pm
You might try a brick chisel as it is about 3.5 inch or so wide, wear gloves and use a regular hammer to tap it.  Also a putty knife works.  You just don't want to dig into the plywood floor if possible.  I have used a diamond blade on my angle grinder and it works, just messy!  Lot's of dust, but always have a construction vacuum working at the same time. 

Do please wear breathing protection when dry cutting/creating masonry dust

Google silicosis.
Title: Re: Any tricks for removing the mortar from the floor?
Post by: John Morales on August 03, 2019, 08:19:21 pm
Use a multitool with a scraper blade.  It will go faster than a hammer and chisel.  You can pick one up real cheap at Harbor Freight.
John M.

How-to use an Oscillating Multi Tool to Scrape Stuff Fast Tutorial - YouTube (https://youtu.be/ko2VcD6BZ-U)
Title: Re: Any tricks for removing the mortar from the floor?
Post by: Mark D on August 03, 2019, 11:23:45 pm
Everyone is steering you wrong IMHO.  What you want is an angle grinder with a diamond cup blade.  Also a shroud that allows you to catch the dust in a shop vac.  I think you'd be done with the whole coach in 15 minutes.  I used a diamond bit on an oscillating tool but it took impossibly long for just a few tiles.  Someone suggested the angle grinder method after I was done and it sounds MUCH better.
Title: Re: Any tricks for removing the mortar from the floor?
Post by: Don & Tys on August 04, 2019, 12:02:18 am
Not sure that it would help, but I would try tapping it with a hammer, preferably something like a mason's or  brick layer's hammer. As it is pretty thin, creating a series of fractures on the surface might allow you to scrape it off more easily. When you're going at it from the edge with a chisel, your are trying break the adhesion which is very strong and just fracturing it on the edge where it is struck. I used a brick layer's hammer to remove old mortar from concrete pavers pretty successfully. I would be worried about digging into the floor with the angle grinder and diamond cup method since it was laid directly on plywood, but with enough skill and a steady hand, it might be quickly done that way. Some well calibrated tapping straight down might be effective and worth a try with little to lose. The diamond cups are pretty expensive, and the dust collection attachments can be even more pricey... Still, I would be tempted to try it just so I could add it to my tool collection. :o Either way you go, you will probably have some divots to fill.
Don
Title: Re: Any tricks for removing the mortar from the floor?
Post by: jcus on August 04, 2019, 12:23:29 am
Agree, have tried flap disc grinding pads when trying to remove adhesive off wood.
Guess my hand eye coordination is not so good, and I gouged the wood and had to use filler to smooth out the wood. As usual turned I turned a 6 hour job into 2 days.
Title: Re: Any tricks for removing the mortar from the floor?
Post by: Mark D on August 04, 2019, 02:35:25 pm
Hmm..  Well that stinks.  All I know is I tried ALL of the less aggressive methods and it took absolutely positively forever for a very small job.
Title: Re: Any tricks for removing the mortar from the floor?
Post by: Ed W on August 04, 2019, 04:50:35 pm
Don - that's what my "whack a mole" method has been, pounding, breaking it up and scraping it off. It has worked well in some areas. Deb
Title: Re: Any tricks for removing the mortar from the floor?
Post by: Keith and Joyce on August 05, 2019, 02:32:05 pm
Watch this to the end.  Really works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JerVHGoj-d0

Keith
Title: Re: Any tricks for removing the mortar from the floor?
Post by: hawkxp on January 17, 2020, 02:42:59 pm
I have found that using a air scraper that is 42" long with a 4-5 blade on it will remove tile and mortar with little effort other than a air compressor that runs 90psi.  I removed 1200sq ft of tile and mortar out of my home with this with little to no damage to the subfloor.  They are just over a $100 at harbor freight.  use one edge to pop the tile loose and the other edge to bust the mortar loose. Really saves your back
Title: Re: Any tricks for removing the mortar from the floor?
Post by: Journey, Roam, Explore on January 18, 2020, 06:47:06 pm
I just finished mine. Basically the best method I found was to use a angled pry bar that was about 16 in long maybe And a ball peen hammer. You hit the pry bar that's on the thinset several times and it will break it right off. I did find some really stubborn areas that just did not want to come off with that method, and for that I use a carbide blade on my Bosch oscillating tool. With the vacuum running the dust was minimum. I also tried a flapper wheel on my Bosch grinder and even with the vacuum running it created a ungodly mess. The floor is not perfectly clean but it doesn't need to be for what my plan is. I found the subfloor to be in fairly rough shape with water damage in several places. Going to put a penetrating epoxy down on the water damaged areas, and a self leveler floor patch on the damaged areas. Then luxury vinyl tile underlayment. Well I have no doubt that's some of the hammer chisel guns would be a good idea I didn't feel like spending any more money on a tool that I wouldn't use again. I always will use my hammer and the pry bar will come in handy too. And I already had both.