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Title: New bladder no new manifold.
Post by: Carol & Scott on September 11, 2019, 07:03:36 pm
Just had our LR bladder replaced at MOT.

I was told that we did not need a new air bladder manifold as our system is a timed system.

I had heard that ALL new bladders require a new manifold.

Guess I was wrong again.  :)
Title: Re: New bladder no new manifold.
Post by: DavidS on September 11, 2019, 07:43:33 pm
Just had our LR bladder replaced at MOT.

I was told that we did not need a new air bladder manifold as our system is a timed system.

I had heard that ALL new bladders require a new manifold.

Guess I was wrong again.  :)

Maybe previous owner replaced (manifold)?

My 02 had to have it.
Title: Re: New bladder no new manifold.
Post by: hdff on September 11, 2019, 08:31:08 pm
FOT told me in May that HWH required a new manifold be installed , I have a timed system also.....
Title: Re: New bladder no new manifold.
Post by: Carol & Scott on September 11, 2019, 08:50:59 pm
?????

Title: Re: New bladder no new manifold.
Post by: Johnstons on September 11, 2019, 09:47:08 pm
It has to do with the old bladder rest stage being flat and the new one resting more in the inflated position.  Some coaches 2002 up were having trouble triggering the vacuum sensor or something like that.  Can't remember the details.  I would want HWH as the final word. 

If I'm wrong someone will know. 
Title: Re: New bladder no new manifold.
Post by: DavidS on September 11, 2019, 09:58:39 pm
If I remember correctly it was a new vacuum venturi? maybe? Didnt matter to me to much as when I talked to HWH they comfirmed all new bladders had to have the new manifolds
Title: Re: New bladder no new manifold.
Post by: Carol & Scott on September 11, 2019, 10:38:33 pm
We replaced a bladder on our 02 - no new manifold then either. 

The design of the new bladder is different.

Must be a difference some where????

Title: Re: New bladder no new manifold.
Post by: Woody & Sitka on September 11, 2019, 11:33:52 pm
I'm need to get my torn slide seal replaced in Nov.  Curious what's the current bill for it @ MOT?  Moscow or Nac worth the extra miles?  Woody.
Title: Re: New bladder no new manifold.
Post by: Carol & Scott on September 12, 2019, 08:32:43 am
Our 160" bladder including adhesive and other ancillary parts was:  $1768.00 plus a bunch of labor.  Did not require the new air manifold which saved us $ 700.00+.

The MOT original Estimate was: $4500.00.  We paid, including a discount, a bit more.  We also had a couple of other things addressed.  I think each install is a bit different.  The adhesive removal was difficult and took extra time to remove and prep for new.  Our couch and pantry also had to be removed and re-installed.  Most times there were 2 guys working on our coach sometimes 3.

Our coach was pulled in the bay at 8AM on Tuesday.  The crew finally went home at 6:30 that night.  We spent the night in the coach in site 25 and we pulled out of MOT about noon on Wednesday.

The paid price was more than anticipated but at the end of the day MOT does a good job, they were able to sneak us in and complete the job promptly.

We have replaced two bladders, one in our 2002 and one in our 2001.  This is not something that we looked forward to but it is part of owning a coach with slide bladders.

As stated in another post, Eric at MOT did a great job in getting us in and completing the job in a "short" period of time and getting us on the road again.

Also thanks to Keith R and Clyde.

 







Title: Re: New bladder no new manifold.
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on September 12, 2019, 09:51:41 am
Some have reported a bit lower price at HWH.  If it is reasonable to go there it is a good choice.  MOT will do a good job too.
Title: Re: New bladder no new manifold.
Post by: Woody & Sitka on September 12, 2019, 10:04:11 am
Thanks guys.  Looks like it'll be Iowa, weather permitting.