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Title: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: hdff on October 23, 2019, 06:38:18 pm
Last year my mud flap was in bad shape so I ordered the rubber and stainless piece from fot and rebuilt it I reused the same flat bar along the top where the hanger attaches and bolted the stainless on top of it a year later this is how it looks the rubber is bowed and it looks like crap. Has anyone else has issues like this? For those that have rebuilt theirs did you add any more bracing on the back to keep the rubber stiff? The new rubber was already starting to tear.  Hard to believe that the  flap I replaced last year was the 18 years old and this one looks so bad after a year. I have another piece of rubber and am ready to rebuild it again but want it to last longer than a year. Tell me what you have done and and how it is working out.

Keith
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: craneman on October 23, 2019, 06:44:22 pm
When you level does the flap get bent? I have seen posts on how to hook the flap up before leveling.
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: hdff on October 23, 2019, 06:46:34 pm
Yes Most of the time I raise it up, can see one of the eye bolts I use in this pic to the right of the F
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: nitehawk on October 23, 2019, 07:01:52 pm
Next time (if there is a next time) put oversize holes in the rubber, fender washers on the bolts, and shoulder bolts so the rubber can still expand or contract over time.
Also, try to find a company that sells conveyor belting. It has a lower coefficient of expansion than the rubber you now have.
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: Bob & Sue on October 23, 2019, 07:05:57 pm
Here is the back side of ours two years later.
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: Bob & Sue on October 23, 2019, 07:08:02 pm
And the front. As you can see, I doubled up on the amount of bolts in the FT flap.
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: Ted & Karen on October 23, 2019, 07:21:35 pm
Keith- when mine was so bad I took it off so as not to lose it on the road.  After much research, I decided to leave it off as I have mud flaps behind my rear wheels .  A lot of information online and many opinions, but with the wheel well flaps I find no reason to have the big one on the rear.  I have had it off since this summer, driven from Ohio to North and South Dakota, then back via some roads under "construction", and find no new damage to my toad. Now I no longer have to think about the flap getting crunched while leveling which is nice.

This is my solution- I know others will not agree but I thought it was worth sharing so you have another option.

Cya down the road..................... ^.^d
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: Mike Leary (RIP) on October 23, 2019, 07:40:52 pm
I'll take a look tomorrow, but I think when Brett re-did ours, he raised it so it did not drag, which could have caused your problem.
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: Roger & Susan in Home2 on October 23, 2019, 08:08:10 pm
Keith, if the rubber gets oil on it it will do just what yours did.  And you had an oil dipstick leak not too long ago.  It doesn't make too much difference how many bolts you put in, the rubber wrinkles.
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: stevec22 on October 23, 2019, 09:50:10 pm
My opinion: The rubber has absorbed something and swelled  (swolled?). 

Or heat/thermal related swelling. 
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: Mobius on October 23, 2019, 09:51:18 pm
Keith, if the rubber gets oil on it it will do just what yours did.  And you had an oil dipstick leak not too long ago.  It doesn't make too much difference how many bolts you put in, the rubber wrinkles.
X2, it looks like a chemical, (oil, de-icer)) or an excessive heat issue
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: Barry & Cindy on October 23, 2019, 10:58:30 pm
Not sure about what distorted rubber, maybe the rubber from FOT was bad?

We were able to find a piece of an old conveyor belt years ago and used it.

I think you did a good job, with your stainless Foretravel metal sign being is such good shape.  I don't think you could prevent it, unless you treated it with a petroleum product like some tire dressings.

Because carabiners wear and break, we put two on each side for redundancy.  If a carabiner breaks and the mudflap falls disaster could happen.
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: hdff on October 23, 2019, 11:55:01 pm
Roger, this started before the oil leak but did get worse after the leak. The trip we had the oil leak it was covered and dripping oil.  We'll see if the rebuild will last now that the oil leak is fixed. You would think that something hanging behind the motor would be somewhat oil resistant.
Also this old rubber, when new, seemed like it would treat easy, it is real hard and stiff and if you bend it it will tear/crack
I wish I could find a piece of old conveyor belt to use

Keith
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: bigdog on October 24, 2019, 12:54:07 am
Roger, this started before the oil leak but did get worse after the leak. The trip we had the oil leak it was covered and dripping oil.  We'll see if the rebuild will last now that the oil leak is fixed. You would think that something hanging behind the motor would be somewhat oil resistant.
Also this old rubber, when new, seemed like it would treat easy, it is real hard and stiff and if you bend it it will tear/crack
I wish I could find a piece of old conveyor belt to use

Keith
Why not just go get a new piece of conveyor belt from a farm implement store.
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: Barry & Cindy on October 24, 2019, 01:14:22 am
Here you go, even with Prime delivery

Amazon.com: Conveyor Belt Material (https://www.amazon.com/Conveyor-Belt-Material/s?k=Conveyor+Belt+Material)
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: Pamela & Mike on October 24, 2019, 05:59:29 am
I wish I could find a piece of old conveyor belt to use

Keith,

If you have either a coal power plant or rock quarry close by they generally will give you a section of used belt.

Mike
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: nitehawk on October 24, 2019, 08:53:13 am
Also check with the city garage--if you are up north. I once got some belting from the city of Appleton, WI.
The "endless" drive belting that farmers use on the PTO pulley on their tractors also works.
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: bogeygolfer on October 24, 2019, 10:41:02 am
I made one out of conveyor material and two pieces of stainless flat bar.  This was about 4 years ago.  Not fancy like the ones with the logo, but functional and stout.

I agree that the flap is probably not needed, but I just thought it made a cleaner look on the stern.  There was no flap on the coach when we bought it, so the prior owner didn't find it necessary.
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: Journey, Roam, Explore on October 24, 2019, 03:06:54 pm
Mine looks pretty rough too. Took it off. Might just do a "conveyor belt rebuild" in the future but for now, will keep it off.
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: John Morales on October 25, 2019, 12:28:47 pm
We use the rv hula skirt and it works well for us. We also run the Protect-A-Tow between the rv and the tow vehicle.
John M.
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: Old phart phred on October 25, 2019, 11:53:37 pm
Recycled rubber stable matting might be a possibility, available from urban farm supply stores, downside is about a half inch thick.
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: Gary Bouland (RIP) on October 26, 2019, 10:53:29 am
Go by any quarry and ask for their worn out used belting, They were glad to give me a pickup load of it several years ago, put worn side forward out of site and the stuff will last forever.  Do a search here and I think you can find pictures of my 280 that I rebuilt the mudflap on.
Gary B
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: hdff on October 26, 2019, 09:40:48 pm
I live just south of Houston so no quarries around, where would I find a quarry at? We're going to Indiana in December, maybe I'll look at farm type stores there
Title: Re: Mud flap. Why did it do this
Post by: Texhub on October 26, 2019, 10:56:55 pm
I have 2 bro in laws that work in quarry. Will ask about belt material. Let's see what can be gotten. Then maybe if I am unable road trip. I can meet up with a west bound member and pony Express belt material.